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Withholding information is the same as lying, right?

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NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 17:05

Without going into too much detail - DH has had the opportunity to tell me about something for a YEAR but hasn’t.

there were so many opportunities for it to come into conversation - I can think of several where it would have been perfectly normal for him to mention it. I found out via someone else in the end (and looked a fool).

He has now said he thought I wouldn’t react well and was biding his time. I am actually not bothered about the situation itself but have been really pissed off he’s said nothing. I feel like he’s lied to me. His argument is “see I knew you wouldn’t react well”

I have tried to explain I’m pissed at the fact he just didn’t tell me but he said “not mentioning something isn’t the same as lying”

AIBU to think that deliberately not saying something when you have had the opportunity to IS the same as lying?

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mollymazda · 16/01/2025 17:47

NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 17:35

No - I’ve just found out and realised he’s had a year to tell me

i see... are you going to share what 'it' is/was? i do think its pertinent to the post

WonderingWanda · 16/01/2025 17:46

Really depends what it is.

Had an affair he didn't tell you about is lying.
Broke a plate and didn't bother telling you because you were an a shitty mood anyway not really lying.

godmum56 · 16/01/2025 17:45

yup "suppresio veri" is the same as "suggestio falsi" https://thelawdictionary.org/suppressio-veri/

stanleypops66 · 16/01/2025 17:45

Depends what the thing is and whether you need to know.

Your minor child had an accident in his care whilst you were away and they had a mild concussion- need to know

He went for promotion and didn't get it- don't need to know

Piece of gossip about someone else- dont need to know

There's prob lots of things I don't tell dh. If it directly affected our family life, financials, Health etc then I most likely would tell him.

To me Lying is asking someone something directly and them not telling you the truth. Or them telling you a complete fabrication about something that you later find out wasn't true.

ChristmasFluff · 16/01/2025 17:45

I would see it as the same as lying. It is lying by omission.

It's like finding out your husband is a bigamist because he never bothered to get divorced. And then saying that's not a lie??

If you know that your partner would be upset by something and you don't tell them, then you are lying by ommission. This differentiates it from simply not telling a partner something.

Lavenderflower · 16/01/2025 17:42

I would say he is being dishonest.

Limelimb · 16/01/2025 17:41

It's not the same, but depending on the circumstances it can be as bad.

OhBling · 16/01/2025 17:40

Purposeflly not telling you something in order to avoid difficult conversations or whatever may not be lying, but it is almost never okay. Obviously there are some nuances here, but, for example, not telling you that he's taken up cycling at lunch time at work ight not be a big deal but I'd certainly see it as deceitful and would be upset if I heard about it via a third party. Not telling you that he gave his sister £500 if it didn't impact you at all and if he knew you'd be upset is a bit deceitful, but perhaps understandable. Not telling you that he has developed a love for smoked salmon sandwiches is a complete irrelevance.

WhatNoRaisins · 16/01/2025 17:39

I agree that if knowing the information would have influenced your own decisions then it's as bad as lying.

Cynic17 · 16/01/2025 17:39

No, it isn't. But ultimately, every situation is different. There may have been a good reason for "witholding information" - are you able to see it from his point of view, OP?

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/01/2025 17:36

Its the same in my book.

Lying by omission can cause as much damage.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/01/2025 17:36

Without knowing the circumstances it is impossible to say.

NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 17:35

mollymazda · 16/01/2025 17:17

but if you knew the information... why did you wait a year to confront? I guess it depends what information they witheld?

you sound petty

No - I’ve just found out and realised he’s had a year to tell me

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VapeVamp12 · 16/01/2025 17:34

Agree with others that it really depends what it is.

My sister for some unknown reason thinks any withholding of information is the same as lying.

Whilst this is usually harmless, I bumped into her when I was on a date with a man about 10 months after my marriage broke down (legally separated but not yet divorced) and she told my ex. Her justification was that "he should know the truth" but all it caused was pain. It was a first date with this man and it didn't go anywhere.

Between partners though, and it made you look a fool when you did find out via other means, maybe it' different.

PrincessPeache · 16/01/2025 17:34

Sparklfairy · 16/01/2025 17:21

I think if knowing the information would have influenced your behaviour (i.e. you said you looked like a fool) and you had a right (or it would have been helpful) to know, then yes, it's lying by omission. Especially if the reason he didn't tell you was to avoid being pulled up for something that he shouldn't have done/was his fault. Obviously the caveat there is if you would jump down his throat for something minor/not your business etc then scrap that last bit. Basically if he's keeping something from you to avoid accountability, it's lying.

The keeping the ADHD assessment quiet upthread isn't the same IMO, and equates to being entitled to your privacy until you know what's what.

You say it’s not quite the same but OP hasn’t actually said what her DH has withheld from her… it could be the same or very similar.

Snorlaxo · 16/01/2025 17:34

Is it a situation where you’re not angry but feel another emotion like embarrassed? If my h knew that someone had fertility issues but let me talk about babies with them multiple times over the past year then I’d wish I’d had the heads up. He might have been told not to tell me but a gentle “some people have fertility issues” or “some people don’t want babies so don’t talk about babies so much” would have been handy and he wouldn’t have had to lie.

I’ve been in the situation where somebody has told me a secret and I’ve specifically asked if I can tell my h. Sometimes it’s yes and sometimes no which is up to the person with the secret,

7ft1garysson · 16/01/2025 17:33

It depends on whether it affects you and if it’s your business to know (ie affects your children, finances etc)

Have you asked him directly to confirm or deny this information?

i said YABU as I don’t think withholding info is the same as lying in all circumstances

Sleepandchocolate2202 · 16/01/2025 17:32

I don’t think it’s quite the same as lying but deliberately withholding information is still untrustworthy behaviour

Sleepandchocolate2202 · 16/01/2025 17:31

I don’t think it’s quite the same as lying but deliberately withholding information is still untrustworthy behaviour

KrisAkabusi · 16/01/2025 17:31

It's not the same. He might have promised to keep something confidential, it might be something he felt personal to him that he didn't want to share. He might have been worried about an (over)reaction from you because that's what you do. It's not a black or white issue

pickleslag · 16/01/2025 17:30

Depends.

If he lost his job a year ago and has been unemployed that would be a big issue. Or been a cocaine addict for a year.

If he has been doing a knitting class for a year without you knowing, not an issue.

GagaBinks · 16/01/2025 17:29

I'm with you on this, OP.

Daysnconfuddled · 16/01/2025 17:29

Depends on the context completely. You've not really told us anything in the OP what this is about.

Snorlaxo · 16/01/2025 17:28

Usually yes.

There are times where you might not mention something out of kindness eg I might downplay how much pain I’m in so my child did not worry but as I’ve said many times to my kids as they were growing up, sometimes you need to tell people news that might make them angry, jealous, upset because the “lie” will become the issue and that can be unfair.

It depends what you h lied about. If it’s something like your MIL (who you’re not keen on )is coming to stay overnight starting tomorrow then yanbu to want him to tell you asap even though you won’t be thrilled.

I told my kids to always tell me when they screwed up. In most cases, screw ups can be fixed and not talking about it often makes it worse. Over time they learned to talk to me and I learned to react appropriately. This made our relationship stronger and will hopefully help when they are in romantic relationships and have to tell their partner something that they won’t like to hear. I think they also prefer knowing “bad” stuff rather than discover that I kept it from them.

zerogrey · 16/01/2025 17:25

Depends if it's life altering information or not. If he held something back that alters his life, and/or yours, then that's bad. If it's something that's not going to make a blind bit of difference then no, it's not the same as lying.

What did he not tell you?

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