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Withholding information is the same as lying, right?

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NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 17:05

Without going into too much detail - DH has had the opportunity to tell me about something for a YEAR but hasn’t.

there were so many opportunities for it to come into conversation - I can think of several where it would have been perfectly normal for him to mention it. I found out via someone else in the end (and looked a fool).

He has now said he thought I wouldn’t react well and was biding his time. I am actually not bothered about the situation itself but have been really pissed off he’s said nothing. I feel like he’s lied to me. His argument is “see I knew you wouldn’t react well”

I have tried to explain I’m pissed at the fact he just didn’t tell me but he said “not mentioning something isn’t the same as lying”

AIBU to think that deliberately not saying something when you have had the opportunity to IS the same as lying?

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ProjectsGalore · 16/01/2025 18:58

He's gaslighting you.

pinkwaffles · 16/01/2025 18:50

Given the reasons he did it (because he thought you "wouldn't react well") then yes in my books it's basically the same thing. It's lying by omission.

Really though it doesn't matter whether or not you class it as lying. What he did was still not great.

Even if you don't call it a lie, that doesn't mean it's OK.

Rachmorr57 · 16/01/2025 18:49

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BunnyLake · 16/01/2025 18:47

There’s lying by omission and it can be just as bad as outright lying. My ex used to do it, and it would infuriate me. The end result being the same, ie you can’t trust them.

Sparklfairy · 16/01/2025 18:46

nodramaplz · 16/01/2025 18:36

Meaning Of Telling Lies
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" To Intentionally deceived someone"_

Not the same

OP was deceived into believing something that wasn't the case as a result of him not telling her crucial information.

Liars tie themselves in knots trying to wriggle out of admitting they lied. If you intentionally mislead, omit information, or give half-truths, they're all technically lying.

White lies (like to save people's feelings) and shit that is none of your business to know in the first place are still lies. Lies aren't always bad, but they sound bad because 'lie' is such a loaded and accusatory word.

NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 18:43

Greyish2025 · 16/01/2025 18:39

Do you normally over react / react badly to things that he has told you, if you do then that I think you know why he did it

Not at all. But this would have been an awkward conversation. Definitely worse after putting it off for a year.

Thanks for assuming the problem is me though

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pikkumyy77 · 16/01/2025 18:41

The larger issue in your relationship is the problem. The larger issue is that for whatever reason he avoids being honest and open with you—and then blames you for his refusal to be honest. Reasons for him being avoidant and secretive are 1) childhood habit/trauma, 2) cowardice, 3) shame, 4) bad intentions. Each of these is a serious problem in a marriage. He lacks trust in you, and respect for you. That is what it amounts to. The stupider and more insignificant the lie the stupider and more insulting his “ reason” that you would have been “upset.” So what? Is he a toddler and can’t handle mummy being upset? Or is he selfish and arrogant and doesn’t see a need to negotiate and share information if he doesn’t just get a complete pass from his partner?

Greyish2025 · 16/01/2025 18:39

NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 17:05

Without going into too much detail - DH has had the opportunity to tell me about something for a YEAR but hasn’t.

there were so many opportunities for it to come into conversation - I can think of several where it would have been perfectly normal for him to mention it. I found out via someone else in the end (and looked a fool).

He has now said he thought I wouldn’t react well and was biding his time. I am actually not bothered about the situation itself but have been really pissed off he’s said nothing. I feel like he’s lied to me. His argument is “see I knew you wouldn’t react well”

I have tried to explain I’m pissed at the fact he just didn’t tell me but he said “not mentioning something isn’t the same as lying”

AIBU to think that deliberately not saying something when you have had the opportunity to IS the same as lying?

Do you normally over react / react badly to things that he has told you, if you do then that I think you know why he did it

nodramaplz · 16/01/2025 18:36

Meaning Of Telling Lies
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" To Intentionally deceived someone"_

Not the same

NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 18:35

It’s something that would have benefited me to know, regardless of how I felt about it.

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NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 18:33

And it is something I would have 10000% have found out in the end. In fact, that’s exactly what happened. It makes me think like “how stupid do you think I am?”

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NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 18:31

I dont want to say exactly what the scenario is as it is likely very outing, hope you can understand that. I am struggling to thing of a comparison but if I do I’ll come back with that.

It’s not a surprise weekend away or a medical diagnosis - if it was either of them I would of course get it (right to privacy/surprise etc)

It IS something that would have influenced my actions if I’d known.

I get that he didn’t want to tell me because it was a bit of an awkward conversation.He said he didn’t know how I would react - honestly worst case scenario I would have been a bit bummed for like a day and then got over it, because it’s not something I can change.

By not knowing, it has also made me look petty/stupid. By not telling me he has let people assume that narrative. I bumped into someone involved and was basically a “why tf wouldn’t you know this” scenario. If I’d have known I would have definitely done things that would show I am NOT petty or being a bitch about it.

Worst of all he doesn’t get that I’m upset he didn’t tell me. I am upset about that, not the actual scenario itself. But to him, it’s proof I would have reacted badly, why am I like this etc. it feels so unfair.

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Delphiniumandlupins · 16/01/2025 18:17

It's not exactly the same but it's still an unkind thing to do because you feel it has made you look foolish. Presumably you have done or said something publicly which you wouldn't have done if you had known the true situation? Also, he can't accurately say how you would have reacted a year ago because he withheld that choice from you and has made you less likely to trust him in the future. Sometimes information is private or not up to the secret-holder to share, though.

Hankunamatata · 16/01/2025 18:13

Depends what he didn't tell you.

He hit the car and got it fixed and didn't want to say - then meh

He spent all his pension savings on lottery tickets - bigger deal

BlueSilverCats · 16/01/2025 18:10

No, it's not lying. That doesn't mean you can't be crossed about it, particularly if it's a situation that affects you too in some way.

Saying that, I've found that 99% of the time, omission does involve some degree of lying too in most situations, even if it's about something else/some tangential, in order to keep omitting "that" information.

Greyish2025 · 16/01/2025 18:08

NamsteinBed · 16/01/2025 17:05

Without going into too much detail - DH has had the opportunity to tell me about something for a YEAR but hasn’t.

there were so many opportunities for it to come into conversation - I can think of several where it would have been perfectly normal for him to mention it. I found out via someone else in the end (and looked a fool).

He has now said he thought I wouldn’t react well and was biding his time. I am actually not bothered about the situation itself but have been really pissed off he’s said nothing. I feel like he’s lied to me. His argument is “see I knew you wouldn’t react well”

I have tried to explain I’m pissed at the fact he just didn’t tell me but he said “not mentioning something isn’t the same as lying”

AIBU to think that deliberately not saying something when you have had the opportunity to IS the same as lying?

difficult to comment without know what he was withholding, I would be annoyed as-well if I had to hear it through a friend

BeMellowOchreZebra · 16/01/2025 17:59

Have you ever read Enid Blyton books? The kids in the famous five never lie but they do give ambiguous (but truthful) answers sometimes.

Unless you specifically asked him about it and he told you no, then he hasn't lied.

Not telling you something isn't lying. It depends what it was and how important it was for you to know.

itsmylife7 · 16/01/2025 17:58

I suppose it depends on what it is.

He's booked a dream holiday for himself and told others but not you. So you feel foolish when others mention it.

He's paid for extended family holiday and not told you.

So many scenarios it could be.

arcticpandas · 16/01/2025 17:56

It really depends on what it is though. I mean I don't tell my DH everything (not about my hidden chocolates for ex). Is it something that concern you?

FurryBalonz · 16/01/2025 17:55

Dontlletmedownbruce · 16/01/2025 17:20

It's not the same thing, to lie you have to actively say something that is untrue. To not say something is very different IMO. We all have secrets we don't share or opinions we keep to ourselves, this doesn't make us all liars.

That said, in a marriage it's not ok to withhold information from each other and his excuse is a bit ridiculous. Plus if there is a chance someone else would tell you and you look a fool (as they did) then there is an even higher onus on him to tell you as a mark of respect to you.

YABU in your AIBU question but YANBU to be angry.

Agree

biscuitsandbooks · 16/01/2025 17:55

What kind of information are talking about?

OopsyDaisie · 16/01/2025 17:53

It depends... did he not mention he has a mistress or that he called in sick to work one day but stayed home instead to rest?
If the information withheld affects you, I agree, but otherwise why do partners have to tell each other everything?

Snorlaxo · 16/01/2025 17:50

Was it likely that you’d find out or was your h banking on you never knowing or somebody who wasn’t him telling you?

Does this info involve your kids? Is it serious like something involving the police or financial ?

Do you think that you’ll feel better once the shock of finding out has subsided? How shocked would you have been if he told you?

TempestTost · 16/01/2025 17:49

I also think it depends.

There are some clear reasons stuff should remain confidential, but I am assuming you aren't talking about those.

I think what it comes down to is, is it something he ought to have told you, or something you would like him to have told you.

There are some things where there is some kind of obligation to say something to a spouse, and it's bad if you don't.

mollymile · 16/01/2025 17:48

Not being honest
Deception
The worst for me is when someone thinks they will 'deal with it for me'.
No need to worry your pretty little head about that I will do it.

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