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Threat to gate crash DD wedding

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Aussierelative · 16/01/2025 14:57

Bit of background DSis lives in Australia and has been living overseas with her family for about 30 years. We keep in touch but are not really that close. We have not met in person for over 6 years and only every 3-4 years before that.
My DD is getting married in September. It is a fairly small wedding, 60 for the ceremony and wedding breakfast with another 40 [mainly friends] coming for an evening party. The decision was made months ago not to invite any cousins from either side. DSis and her DH are invited and have accepted although she made it clear that she was very disappointed that her two DCs were not included. They are both late 20's. My nephew is independent, but niece is still at home with parents mainly due to MH issues. I have heard a rumour that my DSis and BiL are planning to bring the uninvited niece with them presumably in the hope that we will somehow shoehorn her into the arrangements. My DH is fuming to say the least and never had much time for them anyway. He says that this is gate crashing and if they do this we should uninvite them even if they have travelled from Auz. I am not sure how to handle this. Any advice?

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Christmasmorale · 17/01/2025 18:58

Very rude not to have invited the cousin given her parents are travelling from Oz and she lives with them due to mental health issues. Really poor form. Not right that she’s planning to gate crash either but your Dh and the wedding couple aren’t covering themselves in glory.

dynamiccactus · 17/01/2025 18:55

JimHalpertsWife · 17/01/2025 14:18

But you aren't either of the bride or groom, haven't set a Guest list and aren't maxing out capacity on a venue so that there isn't room for one more.

But someone always drops out.

As an aside I've not been invited to weddings my parents were invited to and my son was not invited to a cousin's wedding - and not to his uncle's (second) wedding.

And 100 isn't a small wedding.

AsmallabodeIsallweWant · 17/01/2025 18:52

Don't make the wedding about yourself, let the young people do what they want

Gbishywoo · 17/01/2025 18:51

It’s not even your wedding 😂 why are you getting so wound up? Think it’s pretty strange to invite friends but to make a big issue about her cousin who is unwell and probably relies on your sister.

AsmallabodeIsallweWant · 17/01/2025 18:51

weddings are not about the family , they are only for the couple who gets married

Clanson · 17/01/2025 18:47

Aussierelative · 17/01/2025 13:07

@Fluffedtobits Thank you for your last post which is the most helpful and insightful on this thread. I'm seeing DD later and I will show it to her as I think she will find it useful to think about some of this before she contacts her aunt.

OP I think you need to be very careful with this sort of reasoning. My disabled child has been excluded from events for reasons couched like this and it is always bollocks. They didn't want him there. They thought they were cleverly disguising it, but it is always totally transparent and extremely hurtful.

It's the very opposite of insightful, and potentially discriminatory and very hurtful, to hide behind an assumption that the disabled person doesn't want to come.

Hoppingabout · 17/01/2025 18:45

Tricho · 17/01/2025 18:38

They were quite glad they did it in the end weren't they

It's the best thing they ever did.

Tandora · 17/01/2025 18:44

Namechangean · 17/01/2025 15:59

Honestly who is being the self involved arsehole really? The bride who has a limited amount of guests slots and has decided to draw the line in the family invites at aunts and uncles, or someone who is not close to the bride who has decided to push and push for the bride to disinvite one of her guests so that she can bring an extra family member?

Weddings are stressful, what you don’t need is an aunt you barely see making demands of your wedding. Where do you draw the line? Aunt gets an extra +1 for practically a stranger, maybe the best man says actually I’m a carer for my dad and he’d be really lonely if I was don’t invite him. Then the bridesmaid starts dating someone a week before the wedding and now needs a +1? Or her other aunts and uncles decide if that aunt gets to bring her children they want theirs there too? At what point is the bride no longer selfish to tell someone actually you’re not invited so no you can’t come?

Honestly who is being the self involved arsehole really?

the bride and groom.

Honestly why do people think everyone is so desperate to attend their wedding? People go to weddings to show up for the couple- usually at significant expense and inconvenience for themselves. The aunt is travelling all the way from Australia to be there for her niece, the least she can expect is that her family - the bride’s family - will be treated with some basic hospitality , consideration, manners and respect. In no other (non-western) culture in the world would this kind of anti social bs be tolerated.

Mirabai · 17/01/2025 18:44

Whatzzitz · 17/01/2025 18:31

A cousin coming all the way from Australia has to be included surely. Quite mean not to include the Australian cousin in the wedding. It’s times like these an exception needs to be made to the rule.

Also it might be positive for her mental health, being included in family celebrations

Not if they knew she wasn’t invited when they booked the holiday.

I’m usually inclusive about weddings but it’s quite a small wedding and it’s a perfectly reasonable line to draw that uncles and aunts are invited but not cousins. All cousins. Including the one who’s trying to bounce an invite which is super rude.

Polaris7 · 17/01/2025 18:43

Invite your niece! How mean otherwise. Unless you want to go NC with your sister.

Tricho · 17/01/2025 18:38

user1471517900 · 16/01/2025 15:01

I remember when Busted did this and everyone thought it was quite fun.

They were quite glad they did it in the end weren't they

ClairDeLaLune · 17/01/2025 18:37

Invite her. Don’t be so mean.

Mamasperspective · 17/01/2025 18:37

Speak to your sister and just say, "I'm just checking you're not planning on bringing your daughter or son. Numbers are limited and anyone who turns up uninvited will be turned away and asked to leave"

it's not THEIR wedding, they don't get to create their own guest list

PerspicaciaTick · 17/01/2025 18:35

PollyPut · 16/01/2025 15:00

@Aussierelative is it a church wedding or private one somewhere? If church wedding then I think anyone can come to the ceremony

All weddings in England and Wales MUST be open to the public as a condition of the venues licence regardless as to whether the ceremony is religious or civil.
But that is just the ceremony, you can turf them out of the reception if you want.

allmymonkeys · 17/01/2025 18:32

Where did the rumour come from? If you have any grounds at all to believe it, you'd better call your sister and make it clear that the wedding arrangements do not allow for cousins. If the issue is that they don't want to leave your niece on her own in Aus, and as they're having to pay for her to travel they feel entitled to bring her with them to the wedding as well, then you'd better decide in advance whether you - or, more to the point your daughter and her fiance - would rather have all or none.

It could well be that they genuinely can't exclude her, but it is not reasonable - in fact it's a flaming liberty - for them to assume you'll be cool with niece tagging along regardless.

I've just realised my reaction stems from my SIL pulling a similar stunt on me. Thirty years ago. And I'm still livid.

IsThePopeCatholic · 17/01/2025 18:32

Rickrolypoly · 16/01/2025 15:00

It's one person. You are family. You haven't seen each other in years.

Seriously, why do weddings always end up being such a drama. Just invite her.

This.
why do you care so much if there’s one more?

Whatzzitz · 17/01/2025 18:31

Aussierelative · 16/01/2025 15:39

I would think that OPs DD has other cousins that she is closer to that she hasn’t been able to invite to the wedding. @Flossflower

Exactly this!

A cousin coming all the way from Australia has to be included surely. Quite mean not to include the Australian cousin in the wedding. It’s times like these an exception needs to be made to the rule.

Also it might be positive for her mental health, being included in family celebrations

Mirabai · 17/01/2025 18:30

Doubledenim305 · 17/01/2025 17:40

Correct

What about DD’s other cousins and her DH’s cousins who are already here in the U.K. yet aren’t invited? Who they may feasibly be closer to.

Alittlewordinyourear · 17/01/2025 18:23

I wouldn’t invite her, because that could cause issues with other cousins but if she travels with her parents for whatever personal reasons I would have plans in place to include her, extend an invitation on arrival. They are coming a long way at great expense and it’s your niece and your sister not a random friend

Finetoday · 17/01/2025 18:23

Don’t assume she wants to come to this wedding- She might have plans to go the Trafford Centre or something.

Blueblell · 17/01/2025 18:20

I would suggest your DD to contact her cousin directly and say something along the lines of I know you are coming over to the UK with your parents. I am sorry I couldn’t extend an invitation to you as well but we have had disappoint a lot of people on both sides as the venue is rigid on numbers ect ect. However I would love to get together whilst you are here - can we meet for lunch?

That way she tells her independently of her mum why she can’t come but that she would like to see her. It also means her mum can’t lead her to believe that she is invited or that it is ok for her to just turn up.

It’s a shame weddings in this country are the way they are.

Hoppingabout · 17/01/2025 18:17

If you invite one cousin even if they are coming from Australia presumably you will have to invite all the cousins with the added expense. Make that clear to.your sister as to why you aren't inviting any.at all?

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/01/2025 18:17

I'd just uninvite DSis at this point. Just because she's coming from far away, it doesn't mean she's entitled to bring someone who isn't invited.

Pumpkinpie1 · 17/01/2025 18:04

Personally if family had paid so much to travel to the uk to see me get married - hypothetically I would be delighted

HardyCrow · 17/01/2025 18:00

fourelementary · 16/01/2025 15:01

Actually I think if your niece lives with her parents due to MH issues and is coming over from Oz for the wedding (as presumably she cannot be left at home alone) then you’re being quite mean to not include her. Where is the issue really? It’s one extra person.

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