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Threat to gate crash DD wedding

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Aussierelative · 16/01/2025 14:57

Bit of background DSis lives in Australia and has been living overseas with her family for about 30 years. We keep in touch but are not really that close. We have not met in person for over 6 years and only every 3-4 years before that.
My DD is getting married in September. It is a fairly small wedding, 60 for the ceremony and wedding breakfast with another 40 [mainly friends] coming for an evening party. The decision was made months ago not to invite any cousins from either side. DSis and her DH are invited and have accepted although she made it clear that she was very disappointed that her two DCs were not included. They are both late 20's. My nephew is independent, but niece is still at home with parents mainly due to MH issues. I have heard a rumour that my DSis and BiL are planning to bring the uninvited niece with them presumably in the hope that we will somehow shoehorn her into the arrangements. My DH is fuming to say the least and never had much time for them anyway. He says that this is gate crashing and if they do this we should uninvite them even if they have travelled from Auz. I am not sure how to handle this. Any advice?

OP posts:
anon666 · 17/01/2025 23:35

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/01/2025 23:29

Then they don't come.

Yeah, I hear you. Once I'd read on i realised it's just not ok.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/01/2025 23:29

anon666 · 17/01/2025 23:22

Is it possible they can't leave her if she has MH issues?

Then they don't come.

anon666 · 17/01/2025 23:22

Is it possible they can't leave her if she has MH issues?

Frillysweetpea · 17/01/2025 23:01

Such a drama - a friend of mine appeared uninvited at our wedding. She normally lived in N. America and I didn't even know she was in the country! On the other hand, my SIL missed the train and never turned up so it all balanced out.
Seriously, if you know you niece has MH issues and can't be left alone make her welcome.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/01/2025 22:51

leicester66 · 17/01/2025 22:42

@SouthLondonMum22 its not anybody its
her niece! God YOU people. Side eye

It isn't OP's wedding, it is her daughters wedding. Her daughter isn't close to her and if any would be going, I imagine it would be the ones in England who are closer to her.

Just because it is OP's niece, doesn't mean she is automatically invited to the wedding.

SunnyHappyPeople · 17/01/2025 22:44

dynamiccactus · 17/01/2025 19:04

I do too but when it happened to my son (who wasn't a small child at the time) I got told on MN I was unreasonable for caring.

It is so bizarre to me.

They are your family, how could you not invite them? In this case, they're travelling from the other side of the world. I wouldn't bother. In this situation, I'd probably never speak to my 'Darling' sis again.

You can have workmates that you most probably won't speak to again when you change jobs, friends that you might fall out with, have your DH friends and family, but not accommodate your own niece or nephew?

leicester66 · 17/01/2025 22:42

@SouthLondonMum22 its not anybody its
her niece! God YOU people. Side eye

Deeperthantheocean · 17/01/2025 22:37

Sorry but I would invite the whole family, not just the parents as you're all part of it. Xx

Mum2jenny · 17/01/2025 22:18

Invite who you want. Ignore everyone else. Families are never easy. But do not feel you have to invite one cousin. Totally irrespective of their situation as you will then feel obliged to invite all cousins. Just do what you want!

Namechangean · 17/01/2025 21:57

Cariadm · 17/01/2025 20:09

If you knew that your DN had MH issues and still lived at home then, if you wanted your sister to be at the wedding, the kind and obvious thing to do would have been to say that it was fine for her to come in the first place!! 🙄If any of the other DN's complained about favouritism then you could explain the situation, and if they can't accept that reason then they didn't deserve to be at the wedding anyway!! 😌

Stop infantilising the woman. OP has said she has MH issues so still lives at home. She can be left alone. She might have anxiety or depression. There’s no reason for us to believe she has severe mental health issues that require constant care. She’s in her late 20s and it’s just really patronising for everyone to be insisting she should be invited just because she has a mental health diagnosis. No one is saying that about the aunts son

Soonenough · 17/01/2025 21:50

@Sometimesright Because they are coming from Australia. Exceptional circumstances. Same if travelling from US .That's why .

Thinking2022 · 17/01/2025 21:45

please invite her

JammySlag · 17/01/2025 21:40

dynamiccactus · 17/01/2025 19:06

It’s the epitome of entitlement to expect someone to rearrange their wedding guest list for your family

But if you don't ask you don't get. My cousin asked if he could bring his two kids and I eventually had his daughter as my bridesmaid. Then I had my DH's niece too and a friend! I went from having none to three, six weeks before!

And I rearranged my guest list loads of times! To accommodate new people and because people dropped out.

People are acting as if the guest list is set in stone.

But the venue has set numbers and they have already invited guests and are at max capacity. They would have to uninvite someone they actually want there, to accommodate someone they don’t. I imagine the aunt and uncle are only there because the bride’s parents want them there, I’m guessing the bride and groom would rather have someone else in their place if they could. Is that correct@Aussierelative ? Does your daughter even particularly want her aunt and uncle there? Or she doing it because she feels she has to? If so for the love of weddings don’t make her have the ghastly cousin too.

Pippyls67 · 17/01/2025 21:34

You are being mean and unkind to your vulnerable niece. She seems to need to be with her parents. Just be glad your Dd is doing so well by comparison - and invite the poor thing!

WadiShab · 17/01/2025 21:32

You need to first establish if this information you recieved is true. I'd just pick up the phone and ask her.

If it is true I'd ask her why she would think it would be appropriate to just turn up with an extra guest, albeit my niece, without having the having the manners and respect to ask.

I think it's odd and rude thing to do just rocking up with additional people anyway but especially when you aren't that close.

My biggest issue would be the lack of respect and not asking first but it really is for your DD to decide.

xmaswiththeinlaws · 17/01/2025 20:59

Chances are you'd have a last minute dropout so one extra wouldn't make much difference.

R053 · 17/01/2025 20:52

It was inappropriate of your DH to propose uninviting everyone, including your sister. Doing something like that is of an explosive, relationship ending scale, even if you are not particularly close.

The face to face chat that you had was a much better response. It would be nice if at all possible for the niece to be able to attend the ceremony (given she is hopeful) and perhaps with the limited budget / place numbers, she could spend the reception eating elsewhere in the building or nearby. Just because the cousins didn’t get on as children it doesn’t mean it must always remain thus.

Mirabai · 17/01/2025 20:44

NameChangedOfc · 17/01/2025 20:39

I agree: it's your DD's and her fiance's decision. I understand it may be an uncomfortable situation for you, but I think you should speak candidly with your sister and explain the situation.
If I were your sister and couldn't let my daughter behind, I wouldn't come to the wedding and excuse myself.

Exactly. The other cousins will be put out.

FunDeer · 17/01/2025 20:40

If the OP is helping to pay for the wedding then I think she should be persuading the bride to be to put this niece as No 1 on the reserve list. If anyone drops out (almost inevitably will happen). then the niece gets to attend. People often assume that guests will be willing to comply with whatever demands the bride and groom make, that can be a big mistake. One friend of mine had to send 10 late invites because as soon as they excluded +1s from some friends all the friends refused the invitations.

NameChangedOfc · 17/01/2025 20:39

SunshineAndFizz · 16/01/2025 15:16

I'm really surprised how many people have said 'just invite her, it's only one more person'.

They've decided no cousins - if you invite one cousin then you either have to invite them all, or piss off the rest of the cousins (and probably aunts & uncles too) because they were excluded. It's up to the bride and groom, so if they have a no cousin rule then she shouldn't come. Why should they have people there they didn't want to invite?

But definitely speak to your sister first before assuming anything.

I agree: it's your DD's and her fiance's decision. I understand it may be an uncomfortable situation for you, but I think you should speak candidly with your sister and explain the situation.
If I were your sister and couldn't let my daughter behind, I wouldn't come to the wedding and excuse myself.

JammySlag · 17/01/2025 20:34

Mermaidsarereal · 16/01/2025 21:05

I got married recently about 4 people gatecrashed that we hadn't invited but had assumed that they were! We were a bit suprised by them turning up but ultimately it didn't make any difference to the day.

OMG how did this happen? Surely without an invitation there is no ambiguity

Gwenhwyfar · 17/01/2025 20:22

User19876536484 · 16/01/2025 20:16

Definitely at a private one. Assuming it is a properly licensed venue. See my earlier response to another doubter.

What other requirements are there for premises?

  • You must ensure the public have access without charge to the ceremony room(s) for one hour before and during the ceremony.
  • There must be access for disabled people.
  • Notices are required at each public entrance giving directions to the ceremony room(s), names of the couples, time of wedding and room of wedding so that the public can find the venue easily.
Edited

How does this work with the limit of 60 people then? I suppose it can't be enforced?
Or fire regulations?
I suppose the last person to arrive might be refused?

Cariadm · 17/01/2025 20:19

Cariadm · 17/01/2025 20:09

If you knew that your DN had MH issues and still lived at home then, if you wanted your sister to be at the wedding, the kind and obvious thing to do would have been to say that it was fine for her to come in the first place!! 🙄If any of the other DN's complained about favouritism then you could explain the situation, and if they can't accept that reason then they didn't deserve to be at the wedding anyway!! 😌

Sorry that message was meant for the OP...

JammySlag · 17/01/2025 20:16

Mirabai · 17/01/2025 18:30

What about DD’s other cousins and her DH’s cousins who are already here in the U.K. yet aren’t invited? Who they may feasibly be closer to.

Exactly. It isn’t worth putting cousins (and their parent’s) noses out of joint who actually live in the same country.

They have had to make decisions based on budget, wedding style etc and it’s nice that your daughter invited your sister and her husband to their wedding given they have almost no relationship but it’s taking the piss to expect your daughter and her husband to be to be guilted into inviting someone she barely knows and doesn’t like!

Grow a spine op and tell your sister no.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/01/2025 20:12

I think you are all behaving very precious, A family who lack compassion and understanding.

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