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Threat to gate crash DD wedding

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Aussierelative · 16/01/2025 14:57

Bit of background DSis lives in Australia and has been living overseas with her family for about 30 years. We keep in touch but are not really that close. We have not met in person for over 6 years and only every 3-4 years before that.
My DD is getting married in September. It is a fairly small wedding, 60 for the ceremony and wedding breakfast with another 40 [mainly friends] coming for an evening party. The decision was made months ago not to invite any cousins from either side. DSis and her DH are invited and have accepted although she made it clear that she was very disappointed that her two DCs were not included. They are both late 20's. My nephew is independent, but niece is still at home with parents mainly due to MH issues. I have heard a rumour that my DSis and BiL are planning to bring the uninvited niece with them presumably in the hope that we will somehow shoehorn her into the arrangements. My DH is fuming to say the least and never had much time for them anyway. He says that this is gate crashing and if they do this we should uninvite them even if they have travelled from Auz. I am not sure how to handle this. Any advice?

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sweetgingercat · 16/01/2025 15:44

I agree, you should invite the niece. If they can't leave her at home due to mental health issues, what will they do with her during the day of the wedding? I think you need to think this through and imagine how it would feel if the positions were reversed and it was your daughter with mental health issues on her own in Australia for the day.

stevialiquid · 16/01/2025 15:44

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heroinechic · 16/01/2025 15:44

I think it's odd to be fuming about this rather than concerned and accommodating. You aren't close with your sister, so you don't know exactly what's going on with your niece right now. If they don't feel that they can leave her on her own on this occasion, that's quite telling that she isn't doing well.

I wouldn't uninvite my own sister from my DD's wedding because my niece is too mentally unwell to be left on her own on the other side of the world.

If she travels with your sister I would let her know that niece can't attend the day as everything is specific to the number of people, but I'd think she'd be able to come along in the evening? With your DD's blessing of course.

BourbonsAreOverated · 16/01/2025 15:42

so she’s schlepping all the way over here for the wedding, presumably niece is coming as she’s not fully independent.
what is she meant to do whilst her family are at the wedding of also her relative.
just invite the poor lass

Americano75 · 16/01/2025 15:41

You can't just rock up at a wedding with an uninvited extra guest, it doesn't matter how far you've come!

WhereYouLeftIt · 16/01/2025 15:40

" I can't say to much about the source of the rumour as that might be outing but it is difficult to verify."

You don't have to raise the rumour at all.

Next time you contact her I would comment that since her daughter lives with them they don't have to go to the faff of closing up the house / emptying the fridge / etc., and on their return they won't be coming to an empty house with no milk and bread. Travelling is so much easier if you don't have dealing with the houseas well!

See what she says.

(It's a genuine comment - I hate having to run down the fridge contents for the week/fortnight before we go, and hate equally the fridge being empty on my returnSad. Never had to do that when DS was still living with us, it was much better.)

By raising the subject this way, you are not dropping anyone in it - but you are raising the subject and she will have to respond. How she responds will dictate your next move.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 16/01/2025 15:40

fourelementary · 16/01/2025 15:01

Actually I think if your niece lives with her parents due to MH issues and is coming over from Oz for the wedding (as presumably she cannot be left at home alone) then you’re being quite mean to not include her. Where is the issue really? It’s one extra person.

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Aussierelative · 16/01/2025 15:39

I would think that OPs DD has other cousins that she is closer to that she hasn’t been able to invite to the wedding. @Flossflower

Exactly this!

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Aussierelative · 16/01/2025 15:37

I'm finding this thread helpful in places. Yes DH is quite judgmental but that is not going to change. DD is doing some of the planning but we are helping out quite a bit as she was finding it stressful. I have not actually told her or her fiancé yet but obviously need to. I am really looking to try and get some wider views on how we might approach this issue. No one wants a big family bust up over a wedding.🙄

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MajorCarolDanvers · 16/01/2025 15:36

Rickrolypoly · 16/01/2025 15:00

It's one person. You are family. You haven't seen each other in years.

Seriously, why do weddings always end up being such a drama. Just invite her.

Absolutely this

Fruhstuck · 16/01/2025 15:35

SunshineAndFizz · 16/01/2025 15:16

I'm really surprised how many people have said 'just invite her, it's only one more person'.

They've decided no cousins - if you invite one cousin then you either have to invite them all, or piss off the rest of the cousins (and probably aunts & uncles too) because they were excluded. It's up to the bride and groom, so if they have a no cousin rule then she shouldn't come. Why should they have people there they didn't want to invite?

But definitely speak to your sister first before assuming anything.

I don’t think the other cousins would be annoyed if they knew the circumstances. They shouldn’t be, anyway. It wouldn't be hard to say/write to them afterwards "I expect you might have heard that Kylie was at the wedding. Just wanted to let you know that no cousins were invited, but since Kylie came to England with Bruce and Sheila we felt she couldn’t just be left out and had to make last-minute arrangements for her to come. Hope to see you soon."

BodyKeepingScore · 16/01/2025 15:35

PrincessOfPreschool · 16/01/2025 15:22

I think, OP, you probably invited your Dsis expecting her not to come! Now she's coming all the way - paying fights, accommodation etc. you're a bit miffed. You don't seem to be at all grateful for the effort she's going to.

I'm a big believer in not being too rigid. I know cousins aren't invited but this is really an exceptional circumstance and I think you should OFFER for your niece to attend having come all the way here. Almost as a thank you to your sister for making such an effort. There will be others of your DN's age attending, I assume.

OP has made it clear that if her niece were to attend, they'd have to uninvite someone else who has already been invited.

I'm actually staggered at how many people think this is okay?

Flossflower · 16/01/2025 15:33

60 is quite a small wedding. I would think that OPs DD has other cousins that she is closer to that she hasn’t been able to invite to the wedding.
Maybe OP should just reiterate to her sister that she is sorry her daughter can’t come when she speaks to her. Maybe the sister thinks it is a buffet and she can just sneak another in.

Namechangean · 16/01/2025 15:32

She’s already specifically not invited, it’s not up to OP to invite her. Who should they uninvited to make room for her?

Talk to sis and ask whether her DD is coming to uk or remaining in aus, if she’s travelling say, ask what she plans to do while they’re at the wedding and just reiterate that DDs venue has a maximum capacity so deffo not room for 1 extra

Globusmedia · 16/01/2025 15:32

Nobody has forced the aunt to travel and noone even asked the cousin to, so it's a bit silly to suggest you have to invite her because she's travelled so far.

If there's no space there is no space. She wasn't invited, she doesn't get to just crash. How incredibly rude to just turn up with an extra guest, are they expecting you to feed her as well with no notice?

Maddy70 · 16/01/2025 15:32

If she lives with them she is probably coming to the UK with them to see family and holiday with them.

EauNeu · 16/01/2025 15:31

Aussierelative · 16/01/2025 15:21

My niece can be left alone as DSis has done this previously. The ceremony is in a private venue and the maximum for the space is 60 so to include her at this stage means potentially uninviting someone else. My DD has had very little contact with her cousin and they did not really get on when we did meet up. I can't say to much about the source of the rumour as that might be outing but it is difficult to verify. I did wonder about contacting DSis to ask how my niece was and trying to establish what she would be doing whilst her parents were in the UK.

Chances are someone wont make it on the day. It'll be fine. Worst case the venue will squeeze a chair in for one person

PennyApril54 · 16/01/2025 15:30

Rickrolypoly · 16/01/2025 15:00

It's one person. You are family. You haven't seen each other in years.

Seriously, why do weddings always end up being such a drama. Just invite her.

I think if you could possibly squeeze her in it would be a nice gesture although then puts you in a position re your nephew . Maybe talk to your sister, ask how her daughter will get on at home in Auz on her own while they're away. If they say she is coming over but not to wedding then you could offer to ask your daughter to invite her but explain there would probably not be room for both. It's a tricky one .

Choccyscofffy · 16/01/2025 15:30

Tough one. I absolutely respect the couple’s right to invite who they want but I also think excluding a first cousin from Australia when her parents are flying down is hurtful.

Of course it’s rude to gate crash but I imagine they are feeling very aggrieved.

You’re not close but your sister and her hisband are making the effort to fly from the other side of the world to see your dd get married. That’s huge.

GirlOfThe70s · 16/01/2025 15:30

Are you trying to sort this out on behalf of the Bride, is she not much involved ith the organisation?

Porcuporpoise · 16/01/2025 15:30

CoastalCalm · 16/01/2025 15:12

I think you’re being really unfair excluding her when the family are spending thousands to attend the wedding

Honestly, this.

Maddy70 · 16/01/2025 15:30

Rickrolypoly · 16/01/2025 15:00

It's one person. You are family. You haven't seen each other in years.

Seriously, why do weddings always end up being such a drama. Just invite her.

Yup this .,
Although the entitlement of the family gatecrashing is staggering.
You could run a book on if they do. All family members bet a fiver. Winners split the proceeds. Makes them look a bit twatish but you have a laugh without the drama

LeopardPrintIsNeutral · 16/01/2025 15:29

JustTalkToThem · 16/01/2025 15:03

Well if they’re coming from Australia and your niece is high needs, it makes sense she’s coming to the UK with them. The assumption she’s going to gate crash seems silly.

I’d talk to them about it and offer to find a solution for some one to stay with niece on the day of the wedding.

actually what I’d do is invite the niece but seems like I’m nicer than your son.

This 👏

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