To wonder what could Starmer do, to turn things around?

Worry when you want. Comments aren’t a good gauge. Your link was better for the pp as it showed a closing gap.

Farage and his merry band of bigots and woman beaters of course!

No one has voted.

There have been a few polls. We are more than four years away from voting. If the polls are like this at the start of 2029, then I'll worry.

Who do you think should replace them?

Don’t be silly, that’s not even close but typical sort of response from some.

I like it here, if it crashes and burns then I hope everyone is as similarly angry at Labour as I will be.

I mean maybe not you but I think you’ll be a minority.

Angela Rayner could replace him. That would make some heads explode on MN.

Guess which way those comments will translate into votes. Here’s a hint, they won’t be going to Reform.

Yeah, some people are pissed off. It is normal. What the MSM is doing is blowing something fairly normal up into a "crisis".

But we are never going to agree. You are hoping for the UK to crash and burn so you can be proved right. I am not.

An election?!
We've only just had one!
It doesn't work like that. Government's last for 4 years.
If he did resign, someone else Labour would take his place.

You’re going by comments? Silly seems apt for that tbf

A vote counts, no one counts comments (except those searching comfort on the one point I guess)

It’s both. Two things can be true at the same time.

There you go it’s not MSM as claimed, people really are annoyed and he’s lost support

You need to read the comments, silly! The comments about Farage v Starmer as PM.

Many people are fucked off to put it bluntly look at some pensioners, farmers, businesses. Public sector probably feels immune still, but there’s plenty in the private sector who have a fair reason to feel as they do

Whenever any government announces a new policy, some part of the electorate will be pissed off about it and oppose it. It is rare for any policy to be universally popular.

What does your link show? The top line says one point behind Labour

That seems to back the pp point, that’s going up

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

"I think if people exercised a little critical thinking they would realise it takes more than 6 months to complete turn things around."

I totally understand that it will take more than 6 months to turn things around.

But on one hand Labour say they need to grow the economy but on the other they increase taxes and increase debt.

So the economy flat lines and interest rates go up which further depresses economic growth.

It's a bit like me saying I'm going to lose weight by eating lots of carrot cake- it's just not going to work!

Reform may be "resurgant" on MN, but it really is not in reality.

https://www.threads.net/@jeremyvineon5/post/DEzdH-Lo4zV?xmt=AQGzY-leRbj2bziIXtb02qCp9XYuipRNJbkSjjVBujnjA

Give everyone the gift of patience

Many people are fucked off to put it bluntly look at some pensioners, farmers, businesses. Public sector probably feels immune still, but there’s plenty in the private sector who have a fair reason to feel as they do.

He can ignore that of course and talk about MSM instead. I don’t think it will help him to do that.

Yep. Then Lansley "reformed" it.

Agreed. It’s staggering that some Brits seem to think this is a good thing.

I think if people exercised a little critical thinking they would realise it takes more than 6 months to complete turn things around.

And people who call that excuse making really take the biscuit with disingenuousness.

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

"He’s unpopular with some because he has so much of the MSM against him (foreign owned), and a huge propaganda campaign on SM led from russia against him."

So you don't think it's got anything to do the economy flat lining, turmoil in the bond markets, higher interest rates and NI taxes reducing employability?

It’s this attitude, which undoubtedly is the way that Starmer et al also think, is exactly why the public are both exasperated and irritated by the government. Because, rather than accept they’ve made some absolutely stupid mistakes (freebies for all, ministers embroiled in fraud and corruption investigations / charges, misleading businesses about their growth intentions…the list goes on) all of the blame is being placed at the doors of the media.

And in the typically arrogant way that only the left can, then make out they that are the ones that have been wronged in the process. Even if they are factually, economically, socially and environmentally wrong they’ll claim the moral high ground, and then feel aggrieved when no one trusts them. Take the pre election buttering up of business. It’s barely 6 months ago since some on here were crowing about how Labour were the party of business, how their breakfast meetings and briefings were so successful and that this government would be forging a growth path at high speed. 6 months after the election and there’s not a single sector of the business community that thinks that. And that trust won’t be regained quickly (assuming it was ever really there…), and probably not in this parliament.

So for me, the best thing he could do is be honest. Stop obfuscating, do less and do it well rather than rushing and making a hash of things. Look at what rushing into settlements with the unions achieved. Very little. Look at what rushing into a Chagos islands deal has achieved. Nothing, if not worse than nothing. Look at what rushing to repeal the Legacy Act has done. Kicked off a whole load of controversy around Gerry Adams potentially getting compensation, and subsequently the fact that he was defended by the now attorney general. All of these outcome were entirely foreseeable, with a bit of thought. They just didn’t think they needed to, because they ‘knew’ they were right.

The irony is it was under the last labour government that the many different tiers of management with their fancy sounding names were brought into the NHS.

From the BBC in 2011, just after the Tories came in with the wrecking ball.