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Parking - relatives neighbour left note on my car r

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sunnynottoday · 15/01/2025 01:20

It's a late night parking thread! AIBU?

My sister has recently moved to a new area. She lives in a cul de sac with room for 1 car on her drive. I have visited maybe 2-3 times since she's moved in and parked on the street outside apposite the cul de sac. I visited this evening and when I returned to my car found a note from her neighbour asking me not to park outside their house. No please/thank you, no explanation, just don't park outside our house basically, very blunt. This is a public road FYI. They do not have a driveway, but they do have a double garage a bit further up the road (at the back of their garden I guess). I have attached pictures.

I don't want to cause problems for anyone, especially my sister but there is room for maybe 3-4 cars along that road so surely they're not asking every single person who doesn't live there to move their car?! What do you all think? Crazy people?

Parking - relatives neighbour left note on my car r
Parking - relatives neighbour left note on my car r
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T1Dmama · 22/01/2025 11:37

I’d probably write on back of the note… I am taxed and legally parked! Thanks! And pop it through their letter box

setmestraightplease · 21/01/2025 13:00

@DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe hence you shouldn't be blocking off a dropped kerb that they might need to use.

I only have a small car and don' t take up the full width, so there's still enough drop kerb they can use if need be :)

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 21/01/2025 11:33

setmestraightplease · 20/01/2025 22:55

@DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe but surely you aren't against increasing access options for people who already face a load more challenges in life than most people, once it has been installed?
Basically, even though your request may be the catalyst for having the kerb outside your house dropped - and you may be asked to pay for the work to be done - it hasn't become your kerb or bit of pavement; it's for everybody to use.

I'm absolutely not against increasing access options for everybody ,.............. regardless of disability.
My request for a drop kerb hasn't impacted 'people who already face a load more challenges in life than most people'

it hasn't become your kerb or bit of pavement; it's for everybody to use.

Totally agree!

Sometimes I park at the bottom of the driveway/ drop kerb e.g if I have visitors, they will park on the driveway and not take up other parking spaces on the street needed by neighbours and so I park across the driveway.
However, I don't park so I block access for pavement users.

There are 3 disabled parking spots on my street - 2 on my side and 1 on the other side.
I know my neighbours' needs. So I am mindful of them.

Believe that not everybody is just a 'parking foamer' ! (love the phrase 😂)

I think we're maybe still talking at cross purposes. I don't mean disabled people using pavements per se but crossing from one pavement to get to the pavement on the other side.

Ideally, your request to drop a kerb, so you can access your drive, should impact wheelchair users for the better - so they have more available crossing places, as long as nobody has parked alongside the dropped kerb and thus prevented them from being able to use it.

Also, whilst it's good to be considered to your neighbours, you still never know who else might be wanting/needing to use the public pavement and cross the road outside your houses - whether passers-by, visitors to any of the houses, on business etc. - hence you shouldn't be blocking off a dropped kerb that they might need to use.

setmestraightplease · 20/01/2025 22:55

@DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe but surely you aren't against increasing access options for people who already face a load more challenges in life than most people, once it has been installed?
Basically, even though your request may be the catalyst for having the kerb outside your house dropped - and you may be asked to pay for the work to be done - it hasn't become your kerb or bit of pavement; it's for everybody to use.

I'm absolutely not against increasing access options for everybody ,.............. regardless of disability.
My request for a drop kerb hasn't impacted 'people who already face a load more challenges in life than most people'

it hasn't become your kerb or bit of pavement; it's for everybody to use.

Totally agree!

Sometimes I park at the bottom of the driveway/ drop kerb e.g if I have visitors, they will park on the driveway and not take up other parking spaces on the street needed by neighbours and so I park across the driveway.
However, I don't park so I block access for pavement users.

There are 3 disabled parking spots on my street - 2 on my side and 1 on the other side.
I know my neighbours' needs. So I am mindful of them.

Believe that not everybody is just a 'parking foamer' ! (love the phrase 😂)

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 20/01/2025 11:45

Deeperthantheocean · 17/01/2025 17:31

Oh, cul de sacs and parking! So many who think they own the road outside their houses is farcical, as someone said territorial. You have right to park on the road, they clearly cba to use their garage and expect to pull up immediately outside their own home, which is nice, but not law. They wouldn't cope on a normal street where first come first served. Very rude, a polite note with a reason would've helped. Xx

Indeed. They think they own it (the foamer on our road even told us in one of his stupid typed notes that he left under our wiper that it belonged to him, even though it was across the road from his house and actually outside two different homes, with nice, reasonable residents who do understand the law) - UNTIL it needs maintaining.

Once a dangerous pot-hole appears on that bit of the road - or the whole road needs to be resurfaced - oddly enough, they wouldn't dream of expecting to pay for/towards it.

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 20/01/2025 11:40

setmestraightplease · 17/01/2025 01:36

Eh? Am I missing something? How can a wheelchair user go up or down a dropped kerb to cross the road if there's a parked car blocking access to that dropped kerb?!

Why does a wheelchair user need to cross the road where there's a dropped kerb at the end of someone's driveway? Even if there's a car parked blocking the driveway - but parked on the road and not on the pavement?

How did the wheelchair user cross the road before the resident paid for the kerb to be dropped at the end of their driveway?? There would have been a stepped pavement ................

I feel we may be at crossed purposes about the meaning of residents' driveways / dropped kerbs / parking at the end of driveways?
I agree if someone is parked on the pavement, blocking the end of their driveway, it stops pedestrin access, but I'm talking about someone parking on the road blocking their driveway (which often happens if there are 2 cars in the household, but only enough room on the driveway for one car)

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How would a wheelchair user be able to cross a road with standard height kerbs, without great difficulty and discomfort? Those of us who are privileged enough to be able to walk freely are able to step down into the road and up the other side virtually anywhere where there's a gap, but if you use a wheelchair, mobility scooter or walker, your options are a lot more limited - so the more dropped kerbs available to you, the better.

When permission is given for dropped kerbs, this isn't solely based on its use for a homeowner to access their drive, but also for the wider community good. You then gain the right to cross it for access, but you don't then own or have exclusive rights to that bit of pavement.

It's true that, before a newly-dropped kerb is permitted and installed, a wheelchair user won't be able to cross there; but surely you aren't against increasing access options for people who already face a load more challenges in life than most people, once it has been installed?

Basically, even though your request may be the catalyst for having the kerb outside your house dropped - and you may be asked to pay for the work to be done - it hasn't become your kerb or bit of pavement; it's for everybody to use.

Emmz1510 · 18/01/2025 21:44

Your best bet would be to park outside your sisters house and block her in. She’s unlikely to go out while you’re there after all. However if you can’t do that, eg because there are a few visitors, then it’s fine to do what you are doing and they haven’t a leg to stand on. They are just chancing their arm hoping they’ll scare someone away who won’t stand their ground. Any more cheeky notes your sister should put her own note through saying

‘There are no laws preventing my sister from parking there. Out of goodwill, she will park outside my house where possible however if it’s not possible then she will continue to park where she is legally able, thanks ‘

Deeperthantheocean · 17/01/2025 17:31

Oh, cul de sacs and parking! So many who think they own the road outside their houses is farcical, as someone said territorial. You have right to park on the road, they clearly cba to use their garage and expect to pull up immediately outside their own home, which is nice, but not law. They wouldn't cope on a normal street where first come first served. Very rude, a polite note with a reason would've helped. Xx

PeachyPeachTrees · 17/01/2025 17:06

The neighbours are not nice people, why inconvenience yourself to please them. You can legally park there. By the sounds of it, you're only there occasionally anyway.

Tessabelle74 · 17/01/2025 11:03

My niece has issues with dickhead neighbours, I don't park anywhere that could antagonise them as I don't have to live there. If your sister is fine with you parking there and any aggro she might get then carry on, but if she'd rather keep the peace then I'd just park elsewhere and roll my eyes every time I saw them

setmestraightplease · 17/01/2025 01:36

Eh? Am I missing something? How can a wheelchair user go up or down a dropped kerb to cross the road if there's a parked car blocking access to that dropped kerb?!

Why does a wheelchair user need to cross the road where there's a dropped kerb at the end of someone's driveway? Even if there's a car parked blocking the driveway - but parked on the road and not on the pavement?

How did the wheelchair user cross the road before the resident paid for the kerb to be dropped at the end of their driveway?? There would have been a stepped pavement ................

I feel we may be at crossed purposes about the meaning of residents' driveways / dropped kerbs / parking at the end of driveways?
I agree if someone is parked on the pavement, blocking the end of their driveway, it stops pedestrin access, but I'm talking about someone parking on the road blocking their driveway (which often happens if there are 2 cars in the household, but only enough room on the driveway for one car)

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 17/01/2025 01:13

setmestraightplease · 17/01/2025 00:43

@DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe For the people saying why not park at the bottom of your DSis's drive... you definitely shouldn't be doing that.
The dropped kerb outside your house is not only for your benefit to access your drive - it is also approved/planned to very much take into account the needs of wheelchair and mobility scooter users to cross roads safely.
Traffic wardens may take a very dim view on this - even if it's your own drive or you're visiting the resident. But why would you ever want to deliberately make things even more difficult for disabled people (and parents with prams and pushchairs) and jeopardise their safety - when there's a perfectly good actual parking space available on the road?

If you park blocking your own dropped kerb, how does it impact anyone else?

You can certainly block your own access without impacting on pavement space and the needs of wheelchair/mobility scooter users/ parents with pushchairs. Residents with 2 cars on my street regularly park across their own driveways - on the road - without limiting pavement access.

How does it make it more difficult for pedestrians??

Eh? Am I missing something? How can a wheelchair user go up or down a dropped kerb to cross the road if there's a parked car blocking access to that dropped kerb?!

Of course, it doesn't make any difference to able-bodied pedestrians (without a pram or walker) who are able to easily step up and down a full-height kerb.

DoggingDave · 17/01/2025 01:08

sunnynottoday · 15/01/2025 01:20

It's a late night parking thread! AIBU?

My sister has recently moved to a new area. She lives in a cul de sac with room for 1 car on her drive. I have visited maybe 2-3 times since she's moved in and parked on the street outside apposite the cul de sac. I visited this evening and when I returned to my car found a note from her neighbour asking me not to park outside their house. No please/thank you, no explanation, just don't park outside our house basically, very blunt. This is a public road FYI. They do not have a driveway, but they do have a double garage a bit further up the road (at the back of their garden I guess). I have attached pictures.

I don't want to cause problems for anyone, especially my sister but there is room for maybe 3-4 cars along that road so surely they're not asking every single person who doesn't live there to move their car?! What do you all think? Crazy people?

Draw a cock on the note and post it back through their letter box

setmestraightplease · 17/01/2025 00:43

@DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe For the people saying why not park at the bottom of your DSis's drive... you definitely shouldn't be doing that.
The dropped kerb outside your house is not only for your benefit to access your drive - it is also approved/planned to very much take into account the needs of wheelchair and mobility scooter users to cross roads safely.
Traffic wardens may take a very dim view on this - even if it's your own drive or you're visiting the resident. But why would you ever want to deliberately make things even more difficult for disabled people (and parents with prams and pushchairs) and jeopardise their safety - when there's a perfectly good actual parking space available on the road?

If you park blocking your own dropped kerb, how does it impact anyone else?

You can certainly block your own access without impacting on pavement space and the needs of wheelchair/mobility scooter users/ parents with pushchairs. Residents with 2 cars on my street regularly park across their own driveways - on the road - without limiting pavement access.

How does it make it more difficult for pedestrians??

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 16/01/2025 23:44

For the people saying why not park at the bottom of your DSis's drive... you definitely shouldn't be doing that.

The dropped kerb outside your house is not only for your benefit to access your drive - it is also approved/planned to very much take into account the needs of wheelchair and mobility scooter users to cross roads safely.

Traffic wardens may take a very dim view on this - even if it's your own drive or you're visiting the resident. But why would you ever want to deliberately make things even more difficult for disabled people (and parents with prams and pushchairs) and jeopardise their safety - when there's a perfectly good actual parking space available on the road?

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 16/01/2025 23:34

Pippyls67 · 16/01/2025 20:25

Some people are just knobs. Parked opposite someone’s house once when visiting a boyfriend and found an angry note from them saying they used the ‘full road’ to manoeuvre their cars so how dare I !!!

Some of these nutters are appalling drivers, hence they need an entire clear road to manoeuvre - and they must know it.

They probably shouldn't be driving at all; but it's apparently your fault for not leaving them enough room for a juggernaut with a trailer so they can (with loud, angry-sounding engine noises) just about manage to reverse their Aygo on to their drive - it's never their issue, mind; always your fault.

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 16/01/2025 23:25

BlueFlowers5 · 16/01/2025 17:40

You could offer to ring the police to come sort it out. They would say it's no one's particular space. Any threatening behaviour by them ( the complainers) would get short shrift.

I'd quite gladly call their bluff in this way too - police or council.

The chap on our road likes to threaten to report us to the authorities for parking somewhere reasonably near his house that doesn't affect him in any way.

He wouldn't, though, as I'm sure he knows very well that he's being ridiculous. Personally, I'd love him to call them and report me whilst I'm there, so that egg and his face can be officially in alignment.

It's all bluster from them, though. When you tell them to please go ahead and call the council/police, they'll often backtrack and mutter about it maybe not being technically illegal, but it's nevertheless very unneighbourly/cheeky/harassing or such similar arrogant, entitled guff.

Nonaynevernomore · 16/01/2025 20:26

NotGottaClue · 16/01/2025 19:41

I would park there all the time. In fact I would prob take dcs car there who is away for couple months and leave that there.

Years ago we had a similar neighbour. He lived on a corner and i parked on the road down the side of his house , no garage no drop kern or anything. Didn't affect his parking. But he left a note.
When I purchased a new car I left my old one there till the tax expired and was ready to sell it. Was there 7 months.
It was taxed insured and mot. We took so long to sell as was unsure whether to actually keep it as well as the new one .
Every morning he'd go to work and look , take a photo and walk away

Oh that’s just excellent!!!

Pippyls67 · 16/01/2025 20:25

Some people are just knobs. Parked opposite someone’s house once when visiting a boyfriend and found an angry note from them saying they used the ‘full road’ to manoeuvre their cars so how dare I !!!

Kibble29 · 16/01/2025 19:56

NotGottaClue · 16/01/2025 19:41

I would park there all the time. In fact I would prob take dcs car there who is away for couple months and leave that there.

Years ago we had a similar neighbour. He lived on a corner and i parked on the road down the side of his house , no garage no drop kern or anything. Didn't affect his parking. But he left a note.
When I purchased a new car I left my old one there till the tax expired and was ready to sell it. Was there 7 months.
It was taxed insured and mot. We took so long to sell as was unsure whether to actually keep it as well as the new one .
Every morning he'd go to work and look , take a photo and walk away

7 months?! Haha!

Love that!

Kibble29 · 16/01/2025 19:55

There’s only one reasonable course of action to take.

Visit her more often and park there every single time. When you pull up, have music blasting and the windows down.

MajorCarolDanvers · 16/01/2025 19:50

Some people are totally nuts about this sort of thing.

id continue to park there but check with your DSis as she may prefer you not to.

NotGottaClue · 16/01/2025 19:41

I would park there all the time. In fact I would prob take dcs car there who is away for couple months and leave that there.

Years ago we had a similar neighbour. He lived on a corner and i parked on the road down the side of his house , no garage no drop kern or anything. Didn't affect his parking. But he left a note.
When I purchased a new car I left my old one there till the tax expired and was ready to sell it. Was there 7 months.
It was taxed insured and mot. We took so long to sell as was unsure whether to actually keep it as well as the new one .
Every morning he'd go to work and look , take a photo and walk away

PizzaPowder · 16/01/2025 19:36

pincklop · 15/01/2025 01:42

Have to ask the sister what she wants.
I'm polite. Park responsibly. But an entitled note with no manners, I would likely park there every day to piss them off. If it was a nice note i would always be considerate but if it wasn't polite then wouldn't ever be respectful to them.

This x 100

StopTalkingSoMuch · 16/01/2025 19:30

Tvp123 · 15/01/2025 02:00

What a dickhead. If you are parking where the pics are it isn't like you are blocking their view. They can absolutely fuck off.

I agree