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DH has little to no relationship with DD

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Dioomly · 14/01/2025 00:46

DH is 52, I'm 38, we have been together for 6 years and we have a DD who has just turned 3. I have 2 children from my previous relationship who are 9 and 10, he also has 2 children who are 20 and 22.

DH has a role which requires long hours, roughly he leaves for work at 7.15, gets back at 6./45. He doesn't need to work these long hours really, he could start at 9 and finish at 5.30 but he likes to be "first in and last out". He could also WFH 2 days a week but doesn't.

I do dinner for the kids at 6pm, I find any later is too much chaos, then DD gets her bath around 6.30/45. DH plays no role in bath time, he says when he gets in he is tired and just wants to eat, so I do it. I also do bedtime as it is the same story. He goes out for post work drinks every Thursday without fail, normally getting home around 10/11pm. On the weekends, he barely interacts with DD, he drives I don't so if it is the weekend my older kids are here he takes them to clubs, he says he is too old to get on the floor and play, he doesn't do weekend bath/bed as he says bathtime hurts his back and she sleeps better for me. In the summer he plays golf basically every Saturday. We do family trips to museums etc. but he often goes ahead with the older kids.

I'm a stay at home mum so I expect to do more of the parenting but I basically do it all. This really upsets me as he is very close to his older kids. Neither live in the UK now but he calls them weekly etc. He also just seems to have put more effort in with his older kids. He is French, his ex wife is Italian and when they were little they each spoke their own language to their kids, so his kids are perfectly fluent in French, Italian and English. I suggested we do the same for DD with French but he said no, it was hard work and he only did as parents who are no longer with us didn't speak English but had the kids for 2 weeks every summer,

He is also in my opinion not giving DD the same opportunities as he did for the older kids. His older kids were privately educated, one excelled in sports to the point they paid £50,000+ for her to train in Europe as a teen. He has said as my children aren't privately educated he won't be paying for it for DD, he also said he won't facilitate hobbies to the level he did in the past as it was an expensive decision and annoying. However he happily pays for his older kids flights several times a year (not saying he shouldn't, it just feels like he is being tight with DD but not his older kids). He has even once said "DD isn't as pretty as DSD is she" which I went mad at and he apologised (then saying he just meant as she is pale and his older DD has lovely olive Italian skin).

I feel like I resent him now for his lack of involvement, whenever I try to talk to him about it he says he is sorry and will try harder and does for a few days then stops, he blames his age.

AIBU to think he is being awful to DD?

Leaving wouldn't be easy and I know here it's often said to just leave but I'm not in a position to do that and I don't actually want to leave.

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MotherOfCrocodiles · 14/01/2025 07:47

Maybe he just doesn't like younger kids and will bond with her more when she is school age. So whilst it may not be a fair division of labour, I don't think it means he doesn't love her

I would prefer to palm of toddler care on someone else although I didn't have the option to not do my half with toddlers as DH and I both work equally outside the home.

SouthLondonMum22 · 14/01/2025 07:47

PrincessOfPreschool · 14/01/2025 07:44

A few thoughts.

I think culturally he may struggle a bit with the early meal times as I think many French / Italian children are up later. I can imagine he doesn't want to do bath and bed as soon as he's walked in the door. Perhaps as she gets older he can spend more time in the evening together with his DD.

He sounds great with your older DC, who aren't even his children, so it's very possible that he will improve the older she gets. My Dad was very hands off when I was 3. My mum said she nearly next him. 60 years of marriage now, and they have a close marriage in quite jealous of, plus I'm close to my Dad. He got better as I grew up. Perhaps his ex wife was just like you in terms of doing the parenting, and it's only when his kids got older that the relationship developed more.

I think you have a great lifestyle so I'm not surprised you don't want that to end. But you do need to let some things slide as a result. You can't have it all!! I would talk to your DH about his relationship with his DD and suggest a few 'easy wins' for him eg. Taking her swimming, bedtime at weekends. Private school, I wouldn't keep going on about it. She's 3! And it sounds a bit grabby. Maybe if she goes to school and there's issues later on, things not going well in state education, he'll change his mind.

I can’t imagine many working parents want to do the dinner, bath and bed routine when they get in. I know I sure don’t but I get on with it anyway because that’s just what parents do.

Hwi · 14/01/2025 07:47

Berlinlover · 14/01/2025 01:09

How does the pill fail?

Standard failure when one needs to 'seal the deal', so to say. Fails every time, without failure.

Snoken · 14/01/2025 07:47

BlackStrayCat · 14/01/2025 07:43

He had this DD at 49. Christ, Dsister just had a baby at 46.

Get a grip with the "old man" crap.

He is only 52 now!

OP he sounds shit. You will divorce when you are ready. In a few years. I hope you got married in the UK.

I had very, very similar situaton with a Spanish pillock.

But he has been a parent since he was 20 and will still be parenting when he's retired. It's very different if you have all your children late, but actively parenting your entire adult working life is a different matter. I also had my kids young and am now mid-40s, I would absolutely hate to start over again.

PrincessOfPreschool · 14/01/2025 07:44

A few thoughts.

I think culturally he may struggle a bit with the early meal times as I think many French / Italian children are up later. I can imagine he doesn't want to do bath and bed as soon as he's walked in the door. Perhaps as she gets older he can spend more time in the evening together with his DD.

He sounds great with your older DC, who aren't even his children, so it's very possible that he will improve the older she gets. My Dad was very hands off when I was 3. My mum said she nearly next him. 60 years of marriage now, and they have a close marriage in quite jealous of, plus I'm close to my Dad. He got better as I grew up. Perhaps his ex wife was just like you in terms of doing the parenting, and it's only when his kids got older that the relationship developed more.

I think you have a great lifestyle so I'm not surprised you don't want that to end. But you do need to let some things slide as a result. You can't have it all!! I would talk to your DH about his relationship with his DD and suggest a few 'easy wins' for him eg. Taking her swimming, bedtime at weekends. Private school, I wouldn't keep going on about it. She's 3! And it sounds a bit grabby. Maybe if she goes to school and there's issues later on, things not going well in state education, he'll change his mind.

Choccyscofffy · 14/01/2025 07:44

andthat · 14/01/2025 07:43

This.
FFS. all those posters excusing this piss poor behaviour.

this man does NOTHING with his child. He is not interested whatsoever in her. He is actively choosing not to have a relationship with her. This isn’t going to miraculously change when she’s ten and the damage to her self esteem living with a parent who doesn’t give a shit will be massive.

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BlackStrayCat · 14/01/2025 07:43

He had this DD at 49. Christ, Dsister just had a baby at 46.

Get a grip with the "old man" crap.

He is only 52 now!

OP he sounds shit. You will divorce when you are ready. In a few years. I hope you got married in the UK.

I had very, very similar situaton with a Spanish pillock.

andthat · 14/01/2025 07:43

Auldlang · 14/01/2025 03:58

It doesn't fucking matter.

OP, you shouldn't stay with a man who is putting your kid down like that.

This.
FFS. all those posters excusing this piss poor behaviour.

this man does NOTHING with his child. He is not interested whatsoever in her. He is actively choosing not to have a relationship with her. This isn’t going to miraculously change when she’s ten and the damage to her self esteem living with a parent who doesn’t give a shit will be massive.

Hwi · 14/01/2025 07:43

Choccyscofffy · 14/01/2025 07:40

The point is there a conversation to be had on private school (e.g. wait for secondary rather than primary, discuss impact on household etc), but he’s not interested because he has little interest in his dd.

I come from a multilingual household, you don’t need a parent to teach you the language, speaking to you in the language every day in their mother tongue is enough.

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Choccyscofffy · 14/01/2025 07:42

Porcuporpoise · 14/01/2025 07:28

If he hardly sees her he can't just talk French to her. She's 3, she wont understand. 10 minutes of French a day aren't going to make her bilingual.

If he doesn’t even spend time with his small child on weekends and therefore hardly sees her then he’s a shit dad and OP has bigger problems than her dd learning French.

Hwi · 14/01/2025 07:41

It is clear from the OP that this man was done having children when you got together and this dd was the idea of the OP to seal the relationship so to say, and the husband just went along, but like when you buy a pet for your children and say 'right, I am going to buy it, but I want nothing to do with it - you walk it, you look after it, nothing to do with me'. So this dd is her mum's project and is being treated as such by the husband, that is clear.

You can make somebody to have a child by all sorts of ways, but you can't make them love this child to the same degree they loved the children they really wanted.

It is also clear he does not want to part with money when it comes to your dd - and this is a bad sign. He also does not want to speak his language to her, and this is a truly awful sign, considering he did it to his own children.

What benefit do you get from him, showing you so little respect and openly, unashamedly discriminating your dd compared to his children? Financial benefit? You are not getting it. I don't understand why you are in this relationship, why you are torturing yourself.

Choccyscofffy · 14/01/2025 07:40

HollyKnight · 14/01/2025 07:33

She'll be starting school in a year or two. I think her other children will notice their little sister going off to private school while they attend the local comp/grammar.

How does speaking to her in French work in a house where none of the other children speak French? Does he say something to her in French then repeat himself in English for the other two? Anyway, speaking it a couple of times a day won't do anything. That's not how learning a language works. He would need to teach her or else it is just noise.

The point is there a conversation to be had on private school (e.g. wait for secondary rather than primary, discuss impact on household etc), but he’s not interested because he has little interest in his dd.

I come from a multilingual household, you don’t need a parent to teach you the language, speaking to you in the language every day in their mother tongue is enough.

Letstheriveranswer · 14/01/2025 07:39

When I first started reading your post I thought he was here from the 1950's!

I think he should make more effort with bath and bedtime, ask him to come home early one day a week and spend time with her....he gets to go out one night, so you get him home early one night.

I will say though at 48 I had tons of energy, I was working shifts after my day job in something very demanding, I was fit and energetic and enthusiastic. Sprinting after DGC. By 52 I didn't know what had hit me, I had stiff hips, no energy and it's an effort to drag myself out anywhere in the evening. Let alone deal with the energy a small child has and the constant mental attention they need.... So I have some sympathy in that respect because being over 50 was like a switch had flipped.

Tipsyscripsy · 14/01/2025 07:38

I leave for work at 5.15am and get home at 6.30pm.

as soon as I get home I take over childcare. I do Bath/pjs/teeth brushing/bed, as my partner has done the nursery run/tea etc. plus I actually want to spend time with my child after not seeing them all day.

to make up for the time I don’t get to see DC on weekday mornings/early evenings I also do all weekend get ups.

there is literally no excuse for your husbands behaviour.

HollyKnight · 14/01/2025 07:33

Choccyscofffy · 14/01/2025 07:25

By the time dd starts secondary school, her siblings will be 17/18 and likely won’t be bothered if she’s at private school.

He doesn’t need to teach her French, he could just speak to her in French, his mother tongue.

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She'll be starting school in a year or two. I think her other children will notice their little sister going off to private school while they attend the local comp/grammar.

How does speaking to her in French work in a house where none of the other children speak French? Does he say something to her in French then repeat himself in English for the other two? Anyway, speaking it a couple of times a day won't do anything. That's not how learning a language works. He would need to teach her or else it is just noise.

3luckystars · 14/01/2025 07:32

Sorry to pick up on this one point but why are you giving your child a bath every night? This is a complete waste and unnecessary.
Could you ask him to bring your daughter for a walk every night after dinner instead during this time?

The rest of it, maybe he is not aware how detached he is being with your daughter. Tell him and give him a chance to change. If he doesn’t then you know where you stand.

Good luck

Porcuporpoise · 14/01/2025 07:28

If he hardly sees her he can't just talk French to her. She's 3, she wont understand. 10 minutes of French a day aren't going to make her bilingual.

Choccyscofffy · 14/01/2025 07:25

HollyKnight · 14/01/2025 07:20

So is the OP though. She wants one of her children to be privately educated and to be treated differently to her other children. She doesn't want to treat her youngest the same way as her other children.

There is nearly 20 years between when his first childred were born and this latest one so of course things are going to be different. He isn't the same person, isn't with the same woman, and isn't living the same life he had 20 years ago.The OP's other children are still young. She doesn't have the same experience as him of the different stages of raising children. He is in a better position to know what is worth spending money and time on and what isn't. Teaching them French for example. He only did that for his parents' sake. His parents are gone now. Do people really think he should come home after a long day at work and teach French to a toddler? The OP could do that. She has plenty of free time to learn a language and teach it to her child. But just the one child. That's the only one that matters for some reason.

By the time dd starts secondary school, her siblings will be 17/18 and likely won’t be bothered if she’s at private school.

He doesn’t need to teach her French, he could just speak to her in French, his mother tongue.

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Snoken · 14/01/2025 07:22

Sounds like resentment has kicked in. He was most likely very done with being a dad to young children and was looking forward to having some years without obligations of parenting and now he will be doing it from when he was 20 years old until he's retired. He might also resent OP because he is working long hours to pay for everyone and doing all the driving to activities for her kids on the weekends whilst she has 3 full days to herself when all the kids are in nursery/school.

The relationship is so unbalanced that it's bound to cause issues, especially since you are a blended family with a big age gaps for both the parents and the children.

I think you might do well going to couples counceliing because it doesn't sound like he's very forthcoming when it comes to talk about his feelings and would rather blame it on physical/practical issues when the real issue is most likely mental/emotional.

Holdonforsummer · 14/01/2025 07:20

Berlinlover · 14/01/2025 01:09

How does the pill fail?

Erm, as a sexual health nurse, the answer is quite often and easily. No type of contraception is 100%….

HollyKnight · 14/01/2025 07:20

Choccyscofffy · 14/01/2025 07:02

But he is treating her differently.

So is the OP though. She wants one of her children to be privately educated and to be treated differently to her other children. She doesn't want to treat her youngest the same way as her other children.

There is nearly 20 years between when his first childred were born and this latest one so of course things are going to be different. He isn't the same person, isn't with the same woman, and isn't living the same life he had 20 years ago.The OP's other children are still young. She doesn't have the same experience as him of the different stages of raising children. He is in a better position to know what is worth spending money and time on and what isn't. Teaching them French for example. He only did that for his parents' sake. His parents are gone now. Do people really think he should come home after a long day at work and teach French to a toddler? The OP could do that. She has plenty of free time to learn a language and teach it to her child. But just the one child. That's the only one that matters for some reason.

MumonabikeE5 · 14/01/2025 07:17

JHound · 14/01/2025 07:05

A first time parent at SIXTY?

Ye Gads!

Well at 56, so by the time he had a 4yo he was 60.

Sassybooklover · 14/01/2025 07:17

I suspect your husband didn't do much parenting with his own children. Usually in French/Italian families it would be the Mother who would take on parenting of the children, whilst the husband worked. I suspect he's doing with your daughter, what he did with his older children - left it all to their Mum. I doubt he played with his older children, and most likely worked, played golf etc whilst with his ex, leaving her to it. He's just carrying on doing what he wants because he doesn't see any reason why he shouldn't! May be it was the same set up, when he was a child, and to him it's normal! I do agree with your husband regarding your daughter's education though, by keeping her in State education, thus aligning her the same as your other 2 children. Forget about his older children, and their childhood - they don't live with you, they're adults and what your husband and his ex did for them is irrelevant to your family now. If your daughter suddenly went to a private school, had money thrown at her, how do you think your other 2 children would feel? Pushed out and resentful, because you and your ex wouldn't be able to afford to do the same. Your daughter will know no different, she's not going to resent something she has no idea about.

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