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Left alone in a park

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Dmb563 · 13/01/2025 16:47

Please help, My ex looks after my two girls (12 and 10) most weekends. The eldest likes to do park runs on Saturdays but my youngest isn't really bothered. I found out recently that my ex and my eldest had done a park run in a large Scottish city (they've never been there before so an unfamiliar location), and my youngest had been left alone in a play park while they did a 5k park run. Looking at the course, the majority of it is outside the visibility of the park so there would be no way of checking whether she was safe in the park, except a few sections. A 5k takes around 30 minutes to complete - it does circulate the play park but on a very wide basis. Am I being unreasonable to think this isn't okay??

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TSMWEL · 14/01/2025 00:10

ERthree · 13/01/2025 21:21

Normally i would say a child in a park for 30 mins is ok but in this case where it was in an unfamiliar city then that is out of order and dangerous.

This, it's the unfamiliarity that's the issue for me, not the being left alone for 30 mins. If it was a local park/somewhere my dc felt comfortable I wouldn't have a problem.

mollyfolk · 13/01/2025 23:59

YABU. I would be fine with this. You said yourself that they could see her from sections of the run. She's wasn't really completely unsupervised for 30 mins.

If she was happy I'd be happy.

Stirabout · 13/01/2025 23:51

After your last update it sounds like your youngest is very left out when it comes to your dh focusing more on your eldest and their running.
Your dh needs to find a joint activity they can all enjoy and go running with your eldest when he’s not ‘in charge’ of them both.
It all sounds rather sad for your youngest

IWillBeWaxingAnOwl · 13/01/2025 22:37

JMSA · 13/01/2025 21:48

Edinburgh - yes
Glasgow - no

WinkGrinWink

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icecreamfish · 13/01/2025 22:34

For me it's about choice the 10 y o had in it.
Was she told to 'wait there' and is unsettled in that environment or does she chill in parks and feel ok?
Also any LD?
Confident for age?

I'm going against everyone I think but I wouldn't do this to mine at 10.
Even busy places have dodgy people (sometimes more likely) I think I'd feel safer if they were left in the car?
Did 10 year old get to do Something she wanted afterwards?

Tralalalal · 13/01/2025 22:26

What I can’t understand is why parents are so keen to rush their children to grow up. I personally wouldn’t like to sit in a public garden (because that’s basically what the “park” means) myself for half an hour, surrounded by strangers. For a ten year old girl that must have been frightening and half an hour to a child feels longer than it would to us… the fact there were 2 adults there, why could one not have gone and done something with her to pass the time?
I agree with @FigusCarica, you can’t force a child to grow up to suit your own needs. I’d rather my 10 yo needed me. Thats still young, they still need protecting.

FigusCarica · 13/01/2025 22:21

Oh well done @Bbq1 the helicopter parenting cliché hadn't cropped up yet I don't think. in this case the DD was uncomfortable and called her father so it's unlikely the experience will encourage her to be 'independent' quicker. Children become independent when they are ready, not when it's convenient to us.
I'll spell it out for you: 10 year olds are perfectly fine out of our sight, just not in a city park.

Bbq1 · 13/01/2025 22:10

Sasskitty · 13/01/2025 22:03

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Helicopter. parenting at it's finest... Let's not let a 10 year old out of our sight for a few minutes at a time and watch them morph into a 14 year old who can't be even semi independent and still needs parents arranging everything for them and barely able to walk home from school unaccompanied. Shit parenting.

Bbq1 · 13/01/2025 22:04

Nessastats · 13/01/2025 17:53

10 years old alone for 30 minutes in a park?

You're over reacting.

She's not technically alone nor in a deserted park in the dark.

Sasskitty · 13/01/2025 22:03

FigusCarica · 13/01/2025 21:57

I think not understanding what the issue is is a pretty good indicator of shit parenting.

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FigusCarica · 13/01/2025 21:57

battairzeedurgzome · 13/01/2025 21:50

I think having a child who can't amuse herself for half an hour is a pretty good indicator of shit parenting.

I think not understanding what the issue is is a pretty good indicator of shit parenting.

battairzeedurgzome · 13/01/2025 21:50

AlphaApple · 13/01/2025 17:00

Personally, I think it's shit parenting. It sounds a bit miserable and slightly scary for your 10 year old - assume she had no friends to play with?

I think having a child who can't amuse herself for half an hour is a pretty good indicator of shit parenting.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 13/01/2025 21:49

Dmb563 · 13/01/2025 21:29

Im the father. The girls live with me through the week and I wasn't too keen on my youngest being left in a park while my ex wife, the girls step dad, and my eldest left my youngest daughter on her own. Surely one of the adults could have stayed with her? My wife and I were quite startled that this happened in a random city!

So she waits for them every week, just this time in a different park?

Honestly if she doesn't want to run it that is fine, but I don't see any need for one of them to miss a week just to sit and wait.

JMSA · 13/01/2025 21:48

Edinburgh - yes
Glasgow - no

WinkGrinWink

Delphiniumandlupins · 13/01/2025 21:35

Do you have a good relationship with your ex? Is your DD enjoying the time she spends with her dad? Generally, you don't get to dictate how he parents and he doesn't get to tell you what to do when they're with you. A 10 year old should be fine on their own in a play park but if your DD is unhappy then you want her to be able to tell her parents, while you work on increasing her independence.

Sasskitty · 13/01/2025 21:34

Wildwalksinjanuary · 13/01/2025 21:33

I wouldn’t like it op. We play it safe. Busy places can also create noise and distraction and it only takes one weirdo for this to end very badly.

Exactly. And weirdos are not rare.

BogRollBOGOF · 13/01/2025 21:34

I've heard a couple of run briefings where u11s have previously been left unsupervised while parents have run parkrun and it's been flagged up as an incident. The worst one was where a 5yo was left in a play area, ambled out and was found at the weir of a major river 100m away.
A 10yo is very different and is within months of parkrun policy deeming them appropriately safe to run the event by themselves at 11. With the greater marshalling keeping children in sight, children can run junior parkrun themselves from 4, where the reality is that at 5-6, regulars will start breaking away from their parents and running more independently. Parkrun has to draw a line somewhere, and the age groupings are 4-10 and 11-14 so 11 at 5k is practical and also in-line with general social expectations of that age group. 10 is not far off it, and is in the age range where children start being in public solo for short periods.

The biggest issue is her comfort level.
It's a busy park in the morning, with hundreds of people around the area. She's not going to be bundled off into a passing van. There are normally plenty of families around also waiting for parkrunners. It's not the time of day when teenagers are loitering.

The parkrun courses I go to are not ones where I'd leave a 10yo to play while I run although my then 10yo might have more than stretched the definition of "finish sprint" but I think it's more a matter of personal comfort zone than serious well-being concern.

Wildwalksinjanuary · 13/01/2025 21:33

Dmb563 · 13/01/2025 21:29

Im the father. The girls live with me through the week and I wasn't too keen on my youngest being left in a park while my ex wife, the girls step dad, and my eldest left my youngest daughter on her own. Surely one of the adults could have stayed with her? My wife and I were quite startled that this happened in a random city!

I wouldn’t like it op. We play it safe. Busy places can also create noise and distraction and it only takes one weirdo for this to end very badly.

Sasskitty · 13/01/2025 21:32

BarbaraHoward · 13/01/2025 21:10

At what age do you think the risk of opportunistic weirdos disappears so she can go out alone?

Agreed. And I agree OP @Dmb563 . 10yr girl old, alone, strange place she’s never been before . WTH, that’s not ok.

As well as the fact is weird that neither of the adults thought they should stay with her.

Dmb563 · 13/01/2025 21:29

Im the father. The girls live with me through the week and I wasn't too keen on my youngest being left in a park while my ex wife, the girls step dad, and my eldest left my youngest daughter on her own. Surely one of the adults could have stayed with her? My wife and I were quite startled that this happened in a random city!

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MartinCrieffsLemon · 13/01/2025 21:26

A group of 20-30 year old colleagues have several times been assaulted and harassed by "youths" as they leave work. Being older or in groups doesn't guarantee safety.

Men in white vans are less likely to grab a girl from a park by sticking their hand over their mouth and dragging them through a busy Park Run to a van. They are more likely to either convince them to come with them willingly (think come and see my puppies) or grab her somewhere more secluded. Like the 12 year old in the woods who could easily be surrounded by "Park Runners" who discreetly herd her off the path and into the woods ...

ERthree · 13/01/2025 21:21

Normally i would say a child in a park for 30 mins is ok but in this case where it was in an unfamiliar city then that is out of order and dangerous.

Mydogisamassivetwat · 13/01/2025 21:17

BarbaraHoward · 13/01/2025 21:10

At what age do you think the risk of opportunistic weirdos disappears so she can go out alone?

You get older and get the confidence to scream at them to fuck off. Or you get old enough that they aren’t bothered with you.

Few ten year olds would have the confidence to scream blue murder at a stranger harassing them, or to ask another stranger for help.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 13/01/2025 21:14

Dmb563 · 13/01/2025 20:23

So my youngest has never been to a park on her own (except a rural play park) certainly never a big city. She messaged me to tell me what she was doing and just sat pushing an empty swing on her own. I felt like it was almost a cry for help as it feels my eldest always gets the attention with the running etc. So she has to sit and wait for them to finish. This happens almost every Saturday morning, it just so happened that this Saturday was away from the normal park run they do and I didn't feel too comfortable about it.

Where is the youngest all the other Saturdays when they run?

Dmb563 · 13/01/2025 21:13

That was my concern exactly. The park run course itself is very heavily wooded. Lots of trees etc. It only takes a split second for an opportunist to take it.

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