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To think we're fucked? Given that our government (s) couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery going by recent history....

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 13/01/2025 00:49

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/12/mainlined-into-uks-veins-labour-announces-huge-public-rollout-of-ai

An open invitation to tech bros to plunder our coffers and for yet more algorithmic surveillance and interference.

Oh joy.

‘Mainlined into UK’s veins’: Labour announces huge public rollout of AI

Plans to make UK world leader in AI sector include opening access to NHS and other public data

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/12/mainlined-into-uks-veins-labour-announces-huge-public-rollout-of-ai

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Bruisername · 13/01/2025 09:45

I’m more concerned about them selling access to the nations healthcare records to private companies

I work for a big multinational who was planning to use AI to reduce headcount - it’s not quite there yet and they often have to backtrack. At the moment AI can make existing headcount more efficient - it’s going to take a little longer to replace people and then it will be the process driven tasks

its an odd announcement because I would have expected gov departments to already be doing this

EasternStandard · 13/01/2025 09:40

Labour might want to try at not driving away talent. We might create good things but keeping people is harder and their policies are doing the opposite.

Barney16 · 13/01/2025 09:38

The potential of AI to improve healthcare is massive. But I'm not sure the NHS is at the point of being ready. Elderly dad sent to A and E by GP with an envelope containing print out of his treatment record. I was really taken back and said but can't the hospital access your GP records online? Apparently not. So we may not be poised at the starting point of a technological revolution...

Araminta1003 · 13/01/2025 09:35

AI is good, it means you cut out the drudgery. However, it also means you need creative analytical thinkers more than ever to use the AI properly. And you need an energy plan to back up the AI. So unless they intend to invest in education and energy as well, it won’t work.
For example, far more university degrees backing this up so they are not so oversubscribed and lots of university courses to back up the green energy side of things (and perhaps teaching school children to analyse and think for themselves). And unless they sort out the National Grid as a priority none of this can work.
Last time I checked they scrapped the Computing funding in state education just a few days ago so they are not actually serious. They cannot possibly be or they are not funding it properly. They also scrapped Latin - again, coding relies on language and maths skills. I guess nobody bothered to check that one out, as usual.

MidnightPatrol · 13/01/2025 09:29

AI should allow the public sector to become far more efficient.

Manual processes that are slow or overlooked can be replaced by AI, meaning more manpower for other things.

eg using AI to identify and fix potholes. That’s something which doesn’t happen because we don’t have enough capacity, AI could fix that.

All sorts of things you do will be using AI to make the process more efficient and accurate.

TheNuthatch · 13/01/2025 09:25

I wondered what they'd come up with today. Ooh look a squirrel!

Lambington · 13/01/2025 09:25

The Tories would be doing exactly the same thing. Remember Sunaks fawning "interview" with Musk?

EasternStandard · 13/01/2025 09:24

These headlines are an attempt to paper over the massive issues they’re facing

Like the China one the other day

ClassroomNinja · 13/01/2025 09:23

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Maddy70 · 13/01/2025 09:23

A government that understands new technologies and welcomes investments is a good thing

OriginalUsername2 · 13/01/2025 09:22

AI is already everywhere, we’re already using it every day.

ShampooCoveredTurd · 13/01/2025 09:22

RedRiverShore5 · 13/01/2025 09:06

Hopefully they will just use it for detecting potholes, surely not much can go wrong there

Ah, so all of the many people who have been loudly and repeatedly complaining about potholes and reporting them all - some have even had birthday parties organised by locals after being left for a year unfixed - couldn't get the message across?

Is this the government's version of pretending that thousands of women have never said anything about an important topic, because they only listen when a man says it?

This is the very definition of trying to fatten a pig by constantly weighing it.

And these things are always introduced and sold as being for simple, uncontroversial things, but they never stop there.

Sorry, not getting at you personally; just annoyed at a government - all governments - clearly assuming that we're all stupid.

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 13/01/2025 09:20

They've got nothing left to see and we don't seem to be able to give incentives to produce so they are desperate
They are selling us and our data. They are so desperate they won't put appropriate safeguards in place

WhisperingTree · 13/01/2025 09:20

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Not sure about health care and prime prevention. But DH and I have been using ChatGPT to scan DC's knowledge organisers from secondary, and generate practice sheets. We use it to generate homework exercises. It's actually really great if people know how to use it.

We also use it on holidays to scan menu at restaurants.

Both of us use it at work. It's part of the tool kit now.

ClassroomNinja · 13/01/2025 09:14

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EasternStandard · 13/01/2025 09:13

I don’t think they know what they’re doing on anything so may as well chuck this in there

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WindsurfingDreams · 13/01/2025 09:10

Yanbu. I have a friend who works in a govt team trying to implement AI and at best she and her colleagues could be described as "enthusiastic amateurs".

Post horizon etc I would have expected a bit more reflection before rushing headlong into this

Lorrdydoowhatevs · 13/01/2025 09:08

You vote for muppets, you get muppets.

RedRiverShore5 · 13/01/2025 09:06

Hopefully they will just use it for detecting potholes, surely not much can go wrong there

BlackChunkyBoots · 13/01/2025 04:32

If my new computer boss is better than my micromanaging bully of a boss, I'm up for it.

(Seriously though, my daughter wants to go into a creative industry and she's already thinking how she's going to have to set herself apart from this AI shit.)

Leira2025 · 13/01/2025 04:22

The hospital I work at is so tech averse it blocks ITS OWN Facebook page on our network. Yep, this is going to go great....

pickywatermelon · 13/01/2025 03:37

The thing is, much stuff doesn’t actually need Gen AI if you haven’t got be basics - it’s a fallacy and hype - bunch of stuff can be done well using trad AI models and data management / reporting etc

My concern is that many orgs in the public sector have no idea where the “frontier” is in basic stuff (whether intentionally or through not being leaders) and so this lends itself to being taken down the garden road by high cost suppliers who spout fancy stuff to people who have no idea

creamsnugjumper · 13/01/2025 03:06

OneLemonDog · 13/01/2025 01:58

I actually think that's the best thing I've heard from this government. It's ambitious, forward-thinking and actually represents a meaningful investment in the future. More of this, please.

Chat GPT is that you?

Meadowfinch · 13/01/2025 03:05

Given (all) govt record for disastrous IT projects - Post Office, Integrated Patient Records etc, the thought of future policy making based on AI is very worrying.

AI is best used where the same task has to be performed repeatedly, many times, so decision making can be based on a huge data set. Hardly true of governmental policy making.

It would just be an offload of responsibility, and laziness