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AIBU to ask co-parent for help when struggling?

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ButWhyNot88 · 12/01/2025 23:59

I’m very new to this whole co-parenting situation and really need honest opinions on what is acceptable and where the boundaries are / should be set. Apologies it’s a long one!!!

My husband decided to leave the family home 3 1/2 months ago, leaving me with DD (4) just started school, and twin DD (14 weeks at the time, now 7 months). He has moved in with his parents, who happen to live at the other end of the road. I have the children 4/5 weekday evenings and every other weekend - I’ll admit it breaks me to be apart from my children when they are so young - I’ve been very open about this.

Our eldest daughter has never been a good sleeper, it’s always taken around an hour of us sitting / laying with her for her to fall asleep, we cracked this around 4 months before ‘DH’ up and left, since then she’s completely regressed and cries every time she’s in bed alone - she comes down to my bed every night.

My struggle is that in order to get her to sleep I have to lay with her, without doing that she just cries to the point of hysterics and almost vomiting, but to be able to lay with her the twins have to be settled as they are still having a last bottle around 9.30pm so aren’t yet in bed. It’s a lot for one person to be able to manage.

This evening has been a particularly hard one. I took DD up for a shower and in to bed around 7.45, we’d just started a story when T1 (Twin 1) woke and started to cry, I went down to her after around 5 minutes, within minutes DD was sobbing and crying, so I took T1 up. T2 then started to scream cry so I ended up with all 3 children on DD room. At this point ‘DH’ had text to see how bedtime was going - we do check in as we know it’s hard work. I sent a picture of all 3 children in the bed and said this was where we were at and that it wasn’t ideal. By 9.15pm I hadn’t managed to get anyone to sleep so I text ‘DH’ and asked if someone at his house (‘DH or in-laws) could come down and give me a hand, just to sit in the living room with T1 and T2 whilst I got DD to sleep - it would have taken less than 10 minutes. I got told that he couldn’t as he’d just got out of the shower and his parents were asleep downstairs.

I decided that my only option now seemed to be to put all of the children in the car so that I could settle the twins and then get DD, who has school tomorrow, to sleep - it’s now 9.30pm… I needed to feed the twins first, whilst I was making 2 bottles of milk for the babies I called ‘DH’ to explain the state of play and that I really could do with help for the benefit of the children and getting DD to sleep for school in the morning and got told he can’t help as he has work to do for the morning. At this point, I’ll admit I did get a bit aggravated because we had always made a point that we would put the children first. (In my opinion if the work was that important he’d have done it earlier in the weekend and not 9.30pm the night before…) We both shouted a bit and I ended up putting the phone down.

At this point all children are in the living room. I managed to get both babies to sleep by feeding them, meaning we didn’t have to go I it for a drive in the car and then I took DD up to bed, lay with her and she was asleep within 5 minutes, by this time it was 10.35pm.

’DH’ had messaged whilst I was feeding the twins to see if she was asleep yet so I let him know once she finally was. I then called to apologise for shouting and to ask whether or not he thought I should be asking him or whether on days when he doesn’t have them I shouldn’t… We both knew and accepted that all it need was 1 additional adult to sit for 10 minutes with the twins to get DD to sleep - but he didn’t see this as his issue as they aren’t with him, but he does have an opinion on the fact that she should have been asleep earlier…

We frequently conflict over the fact that I struggle with the fact that he never has to do any parenting on his own as his mum (who is / was a great MIL) is very hands on (a truly great grandparent) and his dad is there too and is also on hand to help whenever needed. He might not always ask them for help but his mum does it instinctively and they’re there so no baby ever needs to cry as there are 3 adults to 3 children. ‘DH’ puts DD to bed there and the twins stay with their grandparents meaning ‘DH’ can give DD his full attention- he never has to run between rooms or up and down stairs… I’ll admit, it frustrates me that it’s all so easy.

I find it hard that there are 3 people, less than 200m away, that could help and lessen the struggles and the amount of tears from the children, but aren’t willing to. I know (because I have) I would drop anything to help with the children if it was needed - I’ve cancelled several lots of plans if he’s needed help or me to have the kids, I never mention it, I just do it because the children come first for me.

I guess I want to know is, AIBU to ask him for help when the children are being impacted and he’s so close by?

OP posts:
Baital · 13/01/2025 07:58

I coslept with DD at that age. They grow out of it - she is now 17 and has happily slept in her own room for years! But aged 4/5 just needed to be near me. We had an interim period where we had a camping mat and sleeping bag on the floor next to my bed, and if she needed to she could come into my room and settle herself down near me. It wasn't as comfortable as her bed (or mine!) but if she needed to be near me she could, and we could both sleep. Ifyou don't want to cosleep maybe make her a 'nest' by your bed.

Personally, if you have a good relationship with MIL I would cut out the (selfish) middle man and ask her to help - make a specific request e.g. on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays would you come 7-8pm for the next 3 months to help while I get the children into a routine. So it can't be turned into an ongoing situation/ some sort of evidence that you 'weren't coping', because you were very specific and time limited in what you ask.

Octonaut4Life · 13/01/2025 07:56

Right now he's merrily pretending what a great guy he is texting you every evening to "see how it's going". Turn it around on him. Accept that he won't help, but every single night, text him and say "please can you come for half an hour and help settle DD". Make him say no every single night. Force him to show what a crap dad he is. Plus if he ever does try for more custody, you'll be able to show all the times you offered him more time with the kids and he refused...

Codlingmoths · 13/01/2025 07:54

Whyherewego · 13/01/2025 07:32

OP the only other alternative here is to see if there's a local teen who can come and sit with the twins for an hour. Ideally someone on the same street so it's just them popping in. I did that when I was newly single, my kids were a bit older than yours but sometimes I needed to pop out for a run or shops or something and didn't want to take them. There were neighbours just a couple doors dow. So I'd throw a tenner at their teen who'd just come and play or do whatever for an hour or two. Given you are upstairs it's a very low risk option.
Is he paying .maintenance?!

Bonus if it’s someone on the same street, they will all know that the babies dad can’t be arsed walking down the road for 10 minutes. Which is exactly what he deserves. I hope you find someone!!

Nogoodusername · 13/01/2025 07:54

No advice other than speak to ex MIL directly, but I just wanted to say that you are an absolute legend of a mum: I cannot even begin to imagine being a single mum of a 4 year old and twin babies. That is a logistical feat that is beyond me. I think you are epic

Debtfreegoals · 13/01/2025 07:53

Op my heart broke for you reading this post. You have a lot of weight on your shoulders and I think you’re doing very well!

please reach out the MIL if ex dh won’t come over. She sounds like she’d rather you let her know and that’s a great support system for you.

I think for the future I do have a couple of suggestions that I hope you would read.
I would suggest pushing daughters bed time back a bit, my son at the same age wouldn’t go to sleep before 9pm and therefore this became his bedtime. I would also do the twins last bottle and bedtime before your older daughter goes up to bed, perhaps 8.30? I would honestly suggest make life easier and let her watch a movie downstairs until the twins are in bed.

You're not unreasonable for thinking a father down the road should come over to help at bedtime instead of just texting you etc. I would be disappointed in him too.

IButtleSir · 13/01/2025 07:41

ButWhyNot88 · 13/01/2025 03:53

Sounds like you definitely know my struggles!

A 7.30pm bottle and then DD bedtime is definitely the aim, but at the moment they’ve reverted to waking in the night between 3.30 and 4am (feeding at the moment) and then again at 7am - with DD waking in the night too I don’t think I could face the possibility of the twins being up at 5am for the day ahead, the fact they stay asleep until 7ish keeps me sane!

I have suggested separate nights in the past, the response I got was genuinely, ‘Well then we’d spend most of our evenings looking after children…’ I did say, ‘Welcome to my life and parenting!’ sometimes I don’t recognise the man I married 11 years ago… baring in mind we also chose to have another child (we obviously didn’t choose twins but more than 1 wasn’t an accident…)

Thank you for your advice and kindness.

I have suggested separate nights in the past, the response I got was genuinely, ‘Well then we’d spend most of our evenings looking after children…’ I did say, ‘Welcome to my life and parenting!’

FUCKING HELL I would happily throttle this man.

Butterbean21 · 13/01/2025 07:37

I have a 8 yo who really struggled being alone at night time but once he is down he is down for the night and I put him in beside his little brother. I have to stagger bedtimes now but just the comfort of someone else in the room really helps him.

If DD is struggling being alone and coming in and disrupting you in the night anyway could you just bring her in your bed for a bit? You are definitely in the trenches and the moment and I'm sure everything would feel a lot more manageable with a bit more sleep.

Whyherewego · 13/01/2025 07:32

OP the only other alternative here is to see if there's a local teen who can come and sit with the twins for an hour. Ideally someone on the same street so it's just them popping in. I did that when I was newly single, my kids were a bit older than yours but sometimes I needed to pop out for a run or shops or something and didn't want to take them. There were neighbours just a couple doors dow. So I'd throw a tenner at their teen who'd just come and play or do whatever for an hour or two. Given you are upstairs it's a very low risk option.
Is he paying .maintenance?!

Littlemisscapable · 13/01/2025 07:31

NuffSaidSam · 13/01/2025 00:34

STBXH hopefully (soon to be ex husband!).

Make him come down and help every evening. It's outrageous that he hasn't offered to do that already.

This. For the time being he will need to be there for bedtimes. He should be settling dd every single evening to provide consistency then you can deal with the twins. He would drive me crazy ....you have been very patient.

achangeofusername · 13/01/2025 07:31

STBXH hopefully (soon to be ex husband!).

Oh. I'd always seen this and thought it was s&%t bag ex husband. I guess they both work.

OP, your STBXH sounds dreadful. When you divorce make sure this is reflected in the settlement you get as he will clearly not support one minute/£ over what is agreed.

Orangesinthebag · 13/01/2025 07:28

InkHeart2024 · 13/01/2025 07:27

If he's only up the road IMO he should be coming every evening at 7.30 to sit with the twins for an hour while you get DD down. Calling him desperate at 9.30 is in crisis mode but you need him there in a planned way daily to make sure it goes ok.

Agree, him or his MIL/FIL should be helping out, this situation is ridiculous when he is so close by!

PierceMorgansChin · 13/01/2025 07:27

IButtleSir · 13/01/2025 07:22

I've just read up to here:

My husband decided to leave the family home 3 1/2 months ago, leaving me with DD (4) just started school, and twin DD (14 weeks at the time, now 7 months).

And want to say that this man is scum.

He is and also his mummy and daddy are scummy for taking him in. OP you are a hero and an amazing mum, but he left so stop texting him. There is another woman somewhere there lurking but he is keeping low profile for now. Once they are established he will use your texts of not being able to cope against you, new stepmummy will take over and she will be told what a useless mum you were. Sorry you are going through this. Get that 4 year old in bed with you, that's what I had to or would never sleep as my ex was as useful as yours

InkHeart2024 · 13/01/2025 07:27

If he's only up the road IMO he should be coming every evening at 7.30 to sit with the twins for an hour while you get DD down. Calling him desperate at 9.30 is in crisis mode but you need him there in a planned way daily to make sure it goes ok.

Orangesinthebag · 13/01/2025 07:25

I agree with bypassing him & asking the MIlL direct for support.
She's a mum, she understands how hard it is & presumably is ashamed of her own son behaving in this way.
If he gets cross about it let him get cross.

You are way too considerate of his feelings. Unless there is a back story here we don't know about I don't get why you aren't seething with anger at being left to do this all alone when he is literally minutes away being waited on by mummy & daddy!

catchthepigeon98 · 13/01/2025 07:25

Stop asking the selfish prick for help because he’s not going to do it and you will get more stressed knowing he won’t and fuck the updates through bedtime why is he asking when he really doesn’t care. He’s got the easy end in all this and manages because like you said there’s 3 adults there when he has the children. He left you and the children at such a young age and he thinks texting is showing that he gives a shit when he really doesn’t. I would cut all the pointless contact with him and focus on yourself and how you can find ways for you to manage better.

IButtleSir · 13/01/2025 07:22

I've just read up to here:

My husband decided to leave the family home 3 1/2 months ago, leaving me with DD (4) just started school, and twin DD (14 weeks at the time, now 7 months).

And want to say that this man is scum.

Theunamedcat · 13/01/2025 07:21

Personally I would find a way to make it work without his input you never know when he is going to turn nasty and suddenly all those messages about you being unable to cope becomes evidence

Have you applied for child maintenance yet?

shuffleofftobuffalo · 13/01/2025 07:16

Your "D"H is an arse. Your situation sounds brutal.

However, it does come across like you're expecting him to behave like you're still a family unit when you're not. It's hard and hurtful (been there, got the t shirt on this one) but it's essential for your own wellbeing in the longer term.

I also think you're being too considerate of his feelings. I'd stop responding to his texts. I bet he's doing it so he can look supportive to the outside world, but really what practical help is a text asking how bedtime is going?! My DD's dad used to do similar (when we were together mind you), it's performative to make themselves look good while not actually doing anything. Also, it's important you stop viewing him as your emotional support - he left, he no longer wants to do that.

If your MIL would help you don't give a moment's thought to how your "D"H would feel about it, you need the support go and ask her. Don't give a single thought to his image, focus on what's best for the children.

LoudSnoringDog · 13/01/2025 07:10

Echo others, put DD1 in with you.

This won't last for ever but find some ways to make it easier for you. As another poster has pointed out, he's basically telling you that you cannot rely on him. I would not put myself though the humiliation of asking for help again. Fuck him. Your children will grow up to see the selfish arsehole for what he is and will see what you did for them.
The man is a worthless piece of shit

icanatilldancetowhigfield · 13/01/2025 07:07

You sound a wonderful parent, you should be so proud. He sounds hopeless, selfish and hateful. I agree with co-sleeping. It will make your life so much easier. You are at the toughest point just now. Life won't stay like this. Sleep issues are so draining and terrible but they won't last forever. Keep strong. You sound amazing!

jeaux90 · 13/01/2025 07:00

Your ex is a selfish arsehole.

This is not a popular thing on here but I co-slept with my DD for a few years, if yours is feeling anxious and bereft would you try putting her to sleep in your bed?

Ask your mum to move in for a while? Put the twins in with you?

I'm a lone parent, always worked full time and sleep/logistics was always the hardest so I refused to fall into the "babies must sleep in their own room trap"

toomuchcheesetoomuchchocolate · 13/01/2025 06:59

Given they are so close and your MIL is so hands on, can the twins go to the grandparents house every evening from 6.30 - 8ish meaning you can get DC1 down and have some 1:1 time with her, they can get the twins fed & ready for bed and then return them to you?

PrincessPeache · 13/01/2025 06:55

Honestly I think that the fact he lives so close and isn’t choosing to come help out for even half an hour each night is awful.

Orangesinthebag · 13/01/2025 06:51

Why did he "decide to leave"? That sounds like it wasn't a mutual decision.

What a horrible man and a terrible father to walk out at that stage!

I think you are being incredibly strong & can't believe you can bear to even speak to him after leaving you alone to cope like that.

Therealmetherealme · 13/01/2025 06:50

You are not being unreasonable but I would start considering DH as ExDh and ask for help from elsewhere, his mum. You asked your Dh and he said no, he can't get upset you've now asked someone else.

It wouldn't surprise me if when the babies are a little older, he suddenly comes running back saying how much he's missed you all, now that some of the hardwork is done.

As a temporary measure could you have the babies in baby swings near you and your daughter?

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