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What do gallstones feel like

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Kalei87 · 12/01/2025 20:23

for a few weeks I have had indigestion starting In the usual normal place for heartburn, centrally in the sternum, I feel like I need to burp, but can’t, then keep getting painful hiccups.

I’ve been taking nexium and gaviscon. This does help with the heartburn but then sometimes it travels down and turns into this pain relentlessly nagging and burning kind of gnawing pain for hours and hours that is more on the right hand side where my rib cage ends. No pain in my back. It feels like I have lots of trapped gas, but I don’t, as nothing is happening other than just having this pain. I have to lie down for ages and eventually it might go away of its own accord but nothing I do helps the pain to go apart from time. I’m not sick otherwise in any other way just this pain is ruining my life! It does hurt if I press on the area a bit

Earlier I felt ok a little bit of indigestion. I ate a normal healthy breakfast but then I was at a kids party and the only food was a slice of pizza, I was hungry, couldn’t leave and no other options so I ate one slice and since then I have been lying down for 5 hours with this pain. Regret regret.

I have nothing to compare this to so just wondered if this sounds like an ulcer or something. I will go see a doctor but just wondered if the 2 things might be related in anyone else’s experience

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Pussycat22 · 12/01/2025 23:27

So bad that patients are given Opiates if in hospital.

rubberducksarebastards · 12/01/2025 23:25

The pain is like nothing else on earth. I'd rather give birth thann have to go through that again.

In my case the first I knew about having gallstones was after eating a cheese pizza when one of the bastards got completely stuck and I ended up critically ill with sepsis and pancreatitis. The scariest thing was that I was too unwell to recognise how unwell I was although that might have had a lot to do with the morphine. Bagged myself emergency surgery and now have what I call my 'shark attack' scar under my right boob.

The ultrasound is relatively quick and as long as you're not in the middle of an attack it's also relatively painless. Surgery is the only thing that'll really get rid of it forever. It's usually done by keyhole as well.

Shivvy1 · 12/01/2025 23:21

Yes sounds like gallstones to me too. Mine was similar. The pain was horrendous. I would be pacing the floors for hours in agony. A really hot bath helped sometimes. I was never so glad to get my gallbladder removed. The pain from a gallbladder attack is worse than labour.

Kalei87 · 12/01/2025 23:08

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 12/01/2025 23:05

I am 40’s and I used to be overweight a few years ago but I am a healthy weight now and fit and eat ok

Weight loss, especially if it's rapid, can cause gallstones to form - that's what I was told likely caused mine.

Mine was slow but I did know about that and if I had more attacks at the time I would have gone to the GP. I just read up about them so it can take 20 years for the stones to form and this is why it’s so common in 40’s. I’m worrying about all the organs now anyway so I am going to go to the GP

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Trivium4all · 12/01/2025 23:08

Bogginsthe3rd · 12/01/2025 23:02

Yea, it's the fat that triggers the pain as the gallbladder contracts to push out bile to emulsify the fat to smaller droplets to help gut absorption. If you have gallstones then GB contracts on these stones causing pain. Avoiding acidic foods can help in gastritis.

Exactly. It seems to me like the doctors were concentrating on the location of the pain (in the middle), as opposed to all the other things around the presentation. It probably didn't help that it was hard to see the same doctor more than once, and it also seemed like previous suspicions of previous doctors (the supposed "ulcer") were taken as gospel, even though they were never confirmed.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 12/01/2025 23:05

I am 40’s and I used to be overweight a few years ago but I am a healthy weight now and fit and eat ok

Weight loss, especially if it's rapid, can cause gallstones to form - that's what I was told likely caused mine.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 12/01/2025 23:03

I visualised the pain as someone slowly and steadily forcing a red hot poker through me, from where the centre of my bra sits, right through to my back.

Sometimes it was a bit sore and lasted for an hour or so, sometimes it left me literally writhing in pain for hours and involuntarily mooing like a cow. I think it is comparable to childbirth - and DD was back to back! - but the difference is contractions come and go and this is a steadily increasing pain that at the time feels like it will never ever end.

Had my gall bladder out now, and knowing I'll never feel that again is amazing.

Kalei87 · 12/01/2025 23:02

@LittleRedY0shi getting hungry triggers acid reflux so I try to eat little and often. I think eating meals too big can also make it worse. I could barely eat my dinner last night as I felt full up quite quickly after a day of heartburn as I’ve not been getting much breaks between this trapped wind feeling it’s kind of always lurking.

I am 40’s and I used to be overweight a few years ago but I am a healthy weight now and fit and eat ok

Mine always starts in the centre of my sternum but it travels, it leaves that part of the heartburn area and is 100% focused on the right side of my rib cage but it doesn’t feel like my stomach, I know where that is. It also can feel like it’s making my bowels spasm like something TMI is about to happen… but nothing happens!

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Bogginsthe3rd · 12/01/2025 23:02

Trivium4all · 12/01/2025 22:59

For me it was dead in the middle, fit not fat, yes female, twenties, definitely no foetus, when it first showed up. The problem with "usually" is that "...but sometimes" gets missed on occasion. The attack that finally led to diagnosis was the very first one that actually moved to the right of the centre. All that time, doctors told me to avoid acidic foods, whereas I kept insisting that tomatoes, wine, etc. didn't do anything, but oily food set it off.

Yea, it's the fat that triggers the pain as the gallbladder contracts to push out bile to emulsify the fat to smaller droplets to help gut absorption. If you have gallstones then GB contracts on these stones causing pain. Avoiding acidic foods can help in gastritis.

Trivium4all · 12/01/2025 22:59

Bogginsthe3rd · 12/01/2025 22:53

Abdominal pain, right upper quadrant, worse after eating, especially fatty foods. Gastritis can mimic this though. Ask your GP for a direct access ultrasound. While you wait, cut out all fat in your diet and if this improves symptoms could well be gallstones. Gallstones more common in the 4 Fs Fat, Female, Forties or with Foetus (pregnant).

For me it was dead in the middle, fit not fat, yes female, twenties, definitely no foetus, when it first showed up. The problem with "usually" is that "...but sometimes" gets missed on occasion. The attack that finally led to diagnosis was the very first one that actually moved to the right of the centre. All that time, doctors told me to avoid acidic foods, whereas I kept insisting that tomatoes, wine, etc. didn't do anything, but oily food set it off.

countrybumpkunt · 12/01/2025 22:56

How come u got addicted ? I'm so sorry.

LittleRedY0shi · 12/01/2025 22:55

Just in terms of triggers - I found out that as well as WHAT I ate, WHEN I ate was also a factor - if I had any food in the 3 hour run up to bedtime, I was more likely to have a gallbladder attack during the night.

I second the recommendation for Buscopan, and the other thing I found particularly effective for pain relief was a very hot bath.

Bogginsthe3rd · 12/01/2025 22:53

Abdominal pain, right upper quadrant, worse after eating, especially fatty foods. Gastritis can mimic this though. Ask your GP for a direct access ultrasound. While you wait, cut out all fat in your diet and if this improves symptoms could well be gallstones. Gallstones more common in the 4 Fs Fat, Female, Forties or with Foetus (pregnant).

Kalei87 · 12/01/2025 22:52

@Trivium4all sorry to hear you suffered all this time that’s terrible.

I am looking back as I post and realising this is not a new thing it’s just there have been long gaps between flare ups and then it’s gone away and I have forgotten about it. It’s never lasted this long before though in episodes as it’s more than one in a few weeks usually they are one off random events. The last similar one I had was 2 years ago when I had got very hungry and that triggered off acid reflux, I then ate a white pitta bread quickly and within 30 mins was in agony, couldn’t stand up straight, was all in 4’s rocking back and forth and ended up with my DP putting me to bed where I laid for hours in pain then eventually fell asleep and woke up and it had mysteriously disappeared. I was so nervous to eat for days so I was very careful then it didn’t come back until a few weeks ago.

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Missingthe80s · 12/01/2025 22:49

Gosh I can’t believe how many of you had to wait so long for surgery. I was rushed to A &E and found that I had jammed packed gall bladder …. Surgery 3 weeks later. What they dont you is that you can’t ingest any fats after

JoyousPinkPeer · 12/01/2025 22:48

Witchcraftandhokum · 12/01/2025 20:26

My grandmother who had an extremely high pain threshold said it was a pain worse than childbirth.

I am slightly.more wimpy and actually.passed out from the pain.

The most horrific pain.

Can be eased by vomiting.

Stop eating any fat (not even an egg) and it will keep it under control.

I paid thousands to have mine removed privately.

Trivium4all · 12/01/2025 22:43

My experience was indigestion-like but extreme pain, that was initially (without scans etc.) treated as an ulcer, and then later investigated with a 24h-acid scope and an endoscopy, to no clear result, brushed off as "irritation in the esophagus" and treated with Lanzoprasole, that I was told I would probably never be able to come off. After FIFTEEN (15) years of this, I moved countries, and within weeks, had an attack that was checked out with an ultrasound and then a CT and MRI, was diagnosed as acute cholecystitis (gallbladder infection), and had an operation scheduled for within 8 weeks (they needed it to settle down). The result of the operation was that my gallbladder was apparently already holier than a whole college of saints, and was clinging in desparation to the surrounding organs, turning what should have been a simple keyhole surgery into a long open operation and a long recovery (I'm now the proud owner of a jar of 26 elegantly striped large gallstones). Now, I'm medication-free and eating pretty normally, although I am a bit careful as to just how many cheesy sausages I eat in one sitting. I'm a bit annoyed, still, at how long I was left with the wrong diagnosis: it seems someone ought to have had the idea of doing an ultrasound a bit earlier (i.e. 15 years), given that my presentation of pain in the stomach area, rather than on the right side, is a bit unusual, but seemingly not all that unusual.

Your symptoms sound very familiar to me. Although of course they could just as well be something else entirely, it might be a good idea to rule out the gallbladder, and an ultrasound might be a sensible non-invasive first step. It would, in my case and in retrospect, have been a much more sensible first step than the acid test and endoscopy.

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 22:41

Good luck. I hope you get treatment quickly. It’s rubbish never knowing when the next attack will come.

Conniethecatapillar · 12/01/2025 22:41

Definitely exaggerate the pain! I was on the list for a whole year for the op and this was 7 years ago when the NHS was slightly less on its knees.

Annoyingly I've started getting slight pain recently from where I had it removed, but it's nothing compared to the pain of gallstones.

You have my sympathy it's horrible!

Kalei87 · 12/01/2025 22:36

Alarmed by talk of pancreatitis so I will be going to the doctors to talk to them. Sorry so many of you had to go through this, it sucks. At least I can try control my diet a bit to avoid triggers in the meantime. I have always been prone to heartburn and had an endoscopy in 2020 which showed nothing, not even a hiatus hernia. I once had hpylori (that was really painful tbh) but I’ve never had an ultrasound on my gallbladder and sounds like it’s time I did.

Yes the trapped wind that’s not trapped wind is the exact description. If I could have let all the air out it felt like that would have solved it but the pain has calmed down and there was no air! So I didn’t have any big moment of release so it cannot be just trapped wind

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ethelredonagoodday · 12/01/2025 22:31

Sebsaloysius · 12/01/2025 21:29

I had pancreatitis caused by gallstones and I wouldn't wish that pain on anyone, it was horrific. I had my gallbladder taken out as soon as the pancreas inflammation had settled and whilst waiting for the op, I did have two 'attacks' which were equally as dreadful. At one point, I distinctly remember clutching my DH's hand and asking him to go find someone with a gun - I honestly meant it too.

I remember a doctor at the time saying "you must have very small stones in there, Sebs". Apparently, the smaller the stones, the easier it is for them to work their way down the bile duct, and it is this movement that causes the 'get me a gun' type of pain. He said that when the stones are larger, they typically cause less intense pain because they simply can't move around as much, but can cause a blockage in the bile duct and this will often cause less intense, but longer lasting pain than that caused by smaller stones. Chronic versus acute, I guess.

A quick US scan will confirm or rule out gallstones, so definitely book an appointment with the GP as whatever it is, it wants looking into.

Mine was similar. I had a scan during pregnancy for something unrelated where the sonographer noted 'sludge' in my gall bladder, but at that point it hadn't given me any bother. My trouble really started when DS was eight weeks old, with the awful trapped-wind feeling. It got worse and worse over 3 days and I eventually got admitted to hospital because I was being sick and nearly passing out. Then once I was in A&E they established it was actually pancreatitis, and I ended up staying in for about 4 nights so they could stabilise me. I had my gallbladder out by keyhole surgery about a fortnight after that.

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 12/01/2025 22:25

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 22:03

My advice is to exaggerate the pain you’re in. The quicker your gallbladder’s out, the better.

This. 100%. Even when I had a stone stuck in my bile duct, I still couldn't get them to give me a quicker date for my op. Instead of going into A&E when that happened, I went to the out of hours service & they gave me indigestion tablets. Which did nothing.

ethelredonagoodday · 12/01/2025 22:23

It sounds very similar to how my gallstones/pancreatitis started. Basically like very bad trapped wind in my ribcage that I just couldn't get rid of.

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 12/01/2025 22:23

I had this for years & didn't realise it was my gallbladder. The gallbladder produces bile which is designed to break down fatty foods, so those tend to be the things that set it off. The sudden pain is usually the gallstones moving down the bile duct, triggered by the food eaten. The one thing i remember triggering attacks (including vomiting & that horrendous pain worse than childbirth) was the icing on Costco cakes - I only ever had that occasionally but the time between was long enough for me to forget the last attack & stupidly have another bite of a cake someone had for a birthday or whatever. But it was lots of things that the gallbladder was designed to help break down to aid digestion.

It took 18 mths from confirmed diagnosis to getting mine removed but towards the end of the wait, I had the worst attack, and had to wait another 2/3 weeks til I got my op. Turned out a gallstone had got stuck in my bile duct & the surgeon couldn't figure out how I'd lasted that last 2/3 weeks.

Go & get checked out so you can catch it before it caused other problems.

Kalei87 · 12/01/2025 22:20

PrincessofWells · 12/01/2025 22:16

A bad idea . . . really, you don't need and shouldnt do this. My response to the poster suggesting lieing.

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What tell them that it goes on for hours?

I won’t tell them I have a high pain threshold but it was enough to put me to bed for hours on end anyway so I will just explain and I assume they will do various tests to find out. It could be my liver, I hope not.

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