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To think it’s not normal for kids to fight like this?

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Kanfuzed123 · 12/01/2025 14:07

Double posted for traffic and also because I feel a bit desperate. They are 5 and 3 but it’s been that way since they were 2 and 4. Eldest is a girl and the youngest is a boy. Neither are asd, sen or have any form of additional needs. They are both in school/ nursery.

youngest was handsy for a brief period of time and now plays nicely with friends.
BUT at home, 8/10 times, the second your back is turned, or even if you’re in the room, they are all on each other scrapping. Most of the time, it’s youngest jumping on and generally rough housing with eldest. I can tell his intention isn’t to hurt, he knows he shouldn’t do it as well. It’s like he’s play fighting, which she doesn’t like and then it degenerates. I can tell he’s not doing it with anger or the intention to hurt because on the occasion she winds him up or hits him, you can see it on his face when he goes to hit her back.
this morning, I couldn’t even go to the loo, wash the dishes for separating them.
i remove him and remind him he’s a kind boy, and kind boys listen when someone says stop, and kind boys use kind hands and gentle actions. Etc. It’s made some impact but what else can I do?
honestly this morning has really worn my patience and I had to shout very loudly to get the behaviour to stop. Then I’m racked with guilt for being shouty.
do I have unrealistic expectations that I can leave a room for 5 mins and they’ll not be at each others throats?

how can I stop this?

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bellsend · 12/01/2025 15:29

My two were exactly the same. Literally couldn’t be in the same room together at all. They are best pals (with the odd epic fight) now though

BBQPete · 12/01/2025 15:10

As per first reply. Different dc are different, and different families and sibling relationships are different.
My older two used to physically fight quite a lot. They are very close friends, as adults, but still not beyond wrestling occasionally.

Kanfuzed123 · 12/01/2025 14:55

MassiveSalad22 · 12/01/2025 14:44

Sounds horrendous. First thought is, is he getting enough rough play? Eg from his dad? I have 2 boys and it seems to be a really important part of their play. Never vicious though. But I can understand if he has this pent up energy and he’s only 3 or whatever, then it could easily turn aggressive.

Second thought, how can you know no SEN at such a young age?

Third thought, SEN doesn’t really mean anything as many SEN children are as gentle as they come, and aggression would still be an issue even if SEN were present.

I think rough play is the issue though. His dad and him rough house all the time and i think he’s getting too enthused by that and replicating it

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myplace · 12/01/2025 14:52

And keep him busy. Give him tasks, games, activities- helping mummy wash the veg etc.

Encourage DD to chill in her room, and he is ABSOLUTELY NOT- allowed to go in there.

ReachingOut8 · 12/01/2025 14:52

Kanfuzed123 · 12/01/2025 14:50

Mentioned as I know some SEN children can physically lash out if over stimulated that’s why I mentioned it.

That’s all children especially at those ages

Kanfuzed123 · 12/01/2025 14:50

ReachingOut8 · 12/01/2025 14:47

I have 4 kids and my youngest 2 fight constantly it’s horrific. Funnily enough it’s my older two who are autistic that don’t fight at all so not sure that’s got anything to do with it? They very much keep to themselves, I was told my son obviously isn’t getting enough attention that’s why he fights with his sister so much which is not true he gets plenty of attention still fights relentless

Mentioned as I know some SEN children can physically lash out if over stimulated that’s why I mentioned it.

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myplace · 12/01/2025 14:49

Structure it so they can’t. Basically your younger child is teasing and tormenting the older one. He needs to be kept apart when they aren’t supervised. He needs to know that he’s staying with mummy while she gets dressed to big sis can eat her breakfast/get dressed/wait til it’s time to go in peace.

Kanfuzed123 · 12/01/2025 14:48

MassiveSalad22 · 12/01/2025 14:44

Sounds horrendous. First thought is, is he getting enough rough play? Eg from his dad? I have 2 boys and it seems to be a really important part of their play. Never vicious though. But I can understand if he has this pent up energy and he’s only 3 or whatever, then it could easily turn aggressive.

Second thought, how can you know no SEN at such a young age?

Third thought, SEN doesn’t really mean anything as many SEN children are as gentle as they come, and aggression would still be an issue even if SEN were present.

hes not got a diagnosis and I have specifically asked at his nursery due to his behaviour.

i know it’s common for some SEN children to physically lash out when over stimulated that’s why I mentioned it

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ReachingOut8 · 12/01/2025 14:47

I have 4 kids and my youngest 2 fight constantly it’s horrific. Funnily enough it’s my older two who are autistic that don’t fight at all so not sure that’s got anything to do with it? They very much keep to themselves, I was told my son obviously isn’t getting enough attention that’s why he fights with his sister so much which is not true he gets plenty of attention still fights relentless

MassiveSalad22 · 12/01/2025 14:44

Sounds horrendous. First thought is, is he getting enough rough play? Eg from his dad? I have 2 boys and it seems to be a really important part of their play. Never vicious though. But I can understand if he has this pent up energy and he’s only 3 or whatever, then it could easily turn aggressive.

Second thought, how can you know no SEN at such a young age?

Third thought, SEN doesn’t really mean anything as many SEN children are as gentle as they come, and aggression would still be an issue even if SEN were present.

Suzi9989 · 12/01/2025 14:42

The only way to nip in the bud is they are doing separate things. Clearly they can not get along so you will need to plan things for them to do to keep them busy.
Opposite ends of the table, sofa. They may just need their own space. Are you a lone parent?

Didimum · 12/01/2025 14:40

Hmmm. Different siblings have different dynamics. My boy/girl twins fight very frequently when together. I also have to shout because they escalate to absolute peak hysteria when fighting together and cannot hear or acknowledge anything other than themselves and each other. Sounds like your boy is getting a reaction from his sister which he enjoys. It’s difficult to stop that because it requires her to completely ignore him, which is unrealistic to expect a 5yr old to do.

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