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To want to buy a second property

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TheArts · 12/01/2025 12:30

I'm 51.
After several mc I had my dc late in life in my early 40s.
DH is 55.
DH and I are low earners, teachers, joint annual income £70,000 but that's before the deductions for tax, NI.
This is a terrible mistake of us both, but neither of us paid in to pensions until 5 years ago. Terrible I know. But we always struggled with our income versus high mortgage (high due to SE housing costs) and saw payment pensions as money we could use to help with the mortgage, pay bills, car costs, etc. and other life expenses. I can't actually tell you how much I regret this now. But money has always been tight and I can't change it now.
We will not receive any inheritance. DH's parents and my parents are in rented social housing with no savings between them. So there is no financial change to our circumstances on the horizon.
Both DC have SEND and because of their specific needs I feel they are going to be dependent on us in to their adulthood.
We live in a tiny house, front door leads straight in to lounge, no hallway, kitchen is 7ft x 9ft, 3rd bedroom for DC2 is 6ft x 8ft. So there's no opportunity to sell and downsize in order to inject some capital in to our lives when we retire (DC will still be living at home due to our late age as parents and their SEN).
Since having DC I've reduced my hours to part time, which has meant reduced monthly income plus - not only did I only start paying in to my pension 5 years ago - it's on a part time wage which means my pension contribution is even smaller still, due to reduced hours.
I can't work full time because DC would not be able to manage wraparound before/after school care, they literally wouldn't cope, they can barely cope with being at school 6.5 hours a day, and both only do so with lots of school scaffolding in place to support them through the day.
We have £50,000 left on our mortgage.
I am desperate to, in some way, improve our future financial situation.
AIBU to think we could buy a second property, a flat maybe, I have heard you can get a mortgage late in life now, as a buy to let? I wouldn't be looking for a monthly income profit, I would simply be looking at the rent covering the mortgage each month. But after 25 years, I'd be 75, the mortgage would be paid off having always been paid by tenants, and at that point we could continue to rent it out and then the rent would top up our monthly income at a point in our lives when we will be on an extremely low pension with adult DC who may likely still be living at home.
Or am I completely and utterly mad for even thinking this could be viable?
It's just that DH and I have always struggled financially throughout our adulthood despite working really bloody hard in our chosen professions, neither of us have ever had any financial help from parents, neither of us will ever receive anything financially from parents, DC are not looking set to be good earners in adult life therefore our support towards them will need to continue well in to our retirement, we are both looking at working for years past the standard retirement age of 65 despite feeling utterly bleak about the thought of it because we won't actually be able to afford to retire, and all I can see on the horizon is financial struggles.
I feel like a bloody idiot right now, lots of life regrets, and a failure as a parent in terms of knowing I'm never going to be able to financially provide for my DC when they become young adults, which is causing me great distress, so please be gentle.

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Vaxtable · 12/01/2025 12:46

Radical thought but have you thought of moving somewhere cheaper, thus getting more bang for your bucks? As teachers you should be able to find jobs elsewhere,

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 12/01/2025 12:45

Don't forget you would be responsible for maintenance of the rental property, of the boiler breaks or fences fall down etc you have to pay to repair

Octavia64 · 12/01/2025 12:44

It's not a good time to go into the rental market.

Many landlords are leaving it. Reasons include high interest rates and upcoming expected changes in the law giving renters more rights.

As a landlord you would have responsibilities to the people renting your property and thus can result in high and unexpected bills.

Not a good idea.

If you live in the SE then when you retire you could consider moving to a cheaper area.

Thelondonone · 12/01/2025 12:44

This is bonkers, sorry! You need to pay any spare money into your pension and your own mortgage. Then think about saving for your retirement. This is not the way.

Beamur · 12/01/2025 12:43

I rent out a house but have no mortgage. It makes a modest income, most of which I don't touch as it might be needed to pay for something at the rental place. I can't see how you could make a profit on a BTL that would be worth the hassle.
I'd look at additional voluntary contributions to your pension. There's still enough time to make that worth doing. Very safe and if your employer is in the schemes you get a generous rate of matched funding.

ThinWomansBrain · 12/01/2025 12:42

Your state retirement age is 67 rather than 65
From the threads on here and reading elsewhere, buy to rent is no longer the nest egg it once was.
A friend has several properties and does well out if it - but he isn't doing it on a shoestring and has very high equity in the properties. If the property is mortgaged to the hilt, you're working part time - how will you fare if you have a down period with no rental income?
Another friend purchased recently, a small house zone 5 in London, She was looking for a property for almost a year, most of the properties available were ex rental, BTL landlords leaving the market.

TheArts · 12/01/2025 12:41

DH pension is terrible too because he only started paying in to it at the age of 50.

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ByQuaintAzureWasp · 12/01/2025 12:38

Can you claim anything as you can't work full time due to childcare?

Having had a rental property it is not something I would recommend. People don't pay rent, leave the place like a shit tip, grow dope, don't leave when they've given notice .... bloody nightmare. BtL mortgages cost more and you'll have to paty capital gains tax on anything you make if you sell. You would place yourselves in a very precarious position.

If you have spare money, put it into your pension. What's hubby's pension like?

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