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Husband says any man would cheat given the opportunity

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Esgd27 · 12/01/2025 01:53

I’m a bit gobsmacked. Been with my DH for 30 years and have 2 grown up kid. Our relationship is generally ok.
We were watching a TV show tonight in which a woman hired a private detective to seduce her husband to see if he was faithful to her. My DH said it was unfair as it was entrapment. I said it was a bit odd but I guess the fictional wife had some concerns and was testing her husband. My DH doubled down by saying that all men would cheat given the opportunity. I challenged him and asked if he felt like that (ie he would cheat given half a chance). He said that he would and that any man would.
A very frosty exchange followed. He raised his voice and then tried to backtrack saying that wasn’t what he’d said and he didn’t mean it. But he did definitely say it. He’d drunk a bottle of wine so no doubt that exacerbated his truculence. He then went to bed in a huff.
I’m don’t particularly think he’s been /being unfaithful - and as a slightly plump balding 60 year old I don’t think he’s exactly Casanova.
I’ve tried to tell myself that it was just a slightly drunken silly remark. But I am still fuming - I thought it was a pretty rude and disrespectful thing to say to your wife. Particularly as he doubled down and didn’t apologise. He just didn’t seem to care or think what he was saying and it raised some concerns with me about his underlying moral code.

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Comedycook · 12/01/2025 22:16

Yeah I think most would...vast majority.

I don't live my life actively worrying about it...but do I think my dh may cheat on me one day...well never say never. I always find it spectacularly naive when I hear women say oh my dh would never cheat

Kisskiss · 12/01/2025 22:15

Oh god. This would give me major ick. It’s saying he would cheat if he had ever had the chance, but he hadn’t cos he’s so unattractive the opportunity has never presented itself.
not much loyalty or moral compass and a loser to boot .

Bignanna · 12/01/2025 22:15

DoloresODonovan · 12/01/2025 21:56

exactly - what ‘s known as wishful thinking.

Plus he’d have to be 100% sure he wouldn’t be found out!

Choccyscofffy · 12/01/2025 22:12

Esgd27 · 12/01/2025 10:18

Thanks for all your replies.
I get all the ‘maybe most men would given the chance….’ comments. But I think it’s a bit different to privately think this compared to saying it in this way to your wife. That still seems to me pretty rude and disrespectful. Exacerbated by no acknowledgement why I might have a problem with this.
Needless to say no apology forthcoming this morning. Just a terrible atmosphere. Am now feeling like I’m in the wrong to have called him out on his assertions. Definitely shades of gaslighting.

You just know that if you dared to ever say that you would cheat he would act like the most betrayed husband ever.

There’s one rule for men and one for women.

DoloresODonovan · 12/01/2025 22:12

I recall an interview with Richard E Grant, Yeeeaaarrs ago, famously devoted
to his wife, on being asked how he copes with women propositioning him?
His response was - “I tell them I’m not available”

Ive never forgotten that, so simple, not up for dispute.

Anyway OP what ‘any man’ would do given the chance, should not be your concern,
your husband, was ill advised to vent his fantasy, now you will be watching him like
a hawk!

Yes he was rude, but if he was considering it he wouldn’t be spouting about it to his wife.

soberserene · 12/01/2025 22:09

Actually, I'm relieved he's admitted it. I feel as if men all know this, but never admit it.
My DH definitely would.

Jazzjazzjazz · 12/01/2025 22:09

Sherararara · 12/01/2025 17:48

Gosh it almost like we’re not designed for monogamy as a species….

Some of us 100% are, this isn’t a general thing, people are different

DoloresODonovan · 12/01/2025 21:56

Guest100 · 12/01/2025 03:14

It sounds like he would like to, but hasn’t been given the chance.

exactly - what ‘s known as wishful thinking.

Mahanii · 12/01/2025 21:54

FigTreeInEurope · 12/01/2025 09:20

This is so offensive, although i do read enough MN to understand women's view of men's fidelity. All men would not cheat at all. I have felt for many years now, as though my actual sexuality is deeply tied to my wife, the thought of being with someone else is actually unthinkable. If i found myself suddenly single, i think it would take years to feel comfortable with someone else.

Personally, i think men that cheat, do so because there is something wrong in their life, or fundementally with their character. I know that within my male friendship group you would be hugely shamed and ostricised for it too.

I like the way you've described your sexuality as being linked to your wife! I think that's how it ideally should be.

pikkumyy77 · 12/01/2025 21:48

DemelzaandRoss · 12/01/2025 17:40

My DH says this too.
Maybe it has something to do with older men. Life was different 30/40 years ago.

no. My dh is 65 and 35 years ago he was the same morally upright person he is now. Cheating has always been frowned upon. People who say “everyone would if they could” are in the camp of trying to normalize something they know is wrong. Like thieves who tell you everyone steals. Its simply not true. There are people who do the right thing even if no ond is watching. And people who do the erong thing when they think they can get away with it. They are different kinds of people.

LastOfTheWinterWine · 12/01/2025 21:48

Mine took the chance. It made him ill the stress of living a lie.

DorothyStorm · 12/01/2025 21:42

My husband would never say that in a million years, he is staunchly anti cheating

How many threads on relationships start with a woman whose husband used to frequently say this has been caught in an affair!

Sherararara · 12/01/2025 17:48

Gosh it almost like we’re not designed for monogamy as a species….

ohyesido · 12/01/2025 17:41

Not all men would have sex with any woman, I think it's fair to say that. Unfortunately a lot of men are led by their penis. I'm pretty sure the majority of men don't know how they would behave unless the opportunity did arise.

DemelzaandRoss · 12/01/2025 17:40

My DH says this too.
Maybe it has something to do with older men. Life was different 30/40 years ago.

MustyDooDah · 12/01/2025 17:35

I don’t think all men would cheat.

I say this as someone who has recently discovered my DH’s affair.

I wonder if your DH has some historic discretions in mind.

Jazzjazzjazz · 12/01/2025 17:02

Are you sure he hasn’t cheated? A lot of people (men and women) who have the attitude that “everyone wants to and everyone would”, have that attitude because THEY have, or would, and it makes them feel better to think everyone else is on par with them, and they aren’t just easy, not picky, lack moral boundaries, are a lying cheat etc. that’s why he might have been angry, because you called him out on his theory and made it plain to him that no you don’t believe that’s true. He may have convinced himself he did what any man would do.

Ethylred · 12/01/2025 16:53

What he's told is that, in that moment, slightly drunk and more than slightly annoyed with you (not saying that was justified), he would have cheated given the opportunity.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 12/01/2025 16:42

He's a bit stupid to say this to you, isn't he? Still, the crux is in 'opportunity'. There are many men that women wouldn't want. They will be faithful in spite of their wants for that reason.

It was really unkind of him to say that to you, OP. It can't be unsaid either. There's life after marriage and I think you could do worse than look at your situation with a view to expanding your own horizons.

Screamingabdabz · 12/01/2025 16:37

Your DH is a basic bitch of the male world. I’ve met plenty of men for whom loyalty is more important than getting their dick wet, however much the temptation. It may be a minority of men but they do exist.

mmmarmalade · 12/01/2025 16:34

Tell him that’s great news as there are loads of his married friends you’d like to shag and it looks like you can have the pick of the bunch. ;-)

Time to put his theory to the test!

Whether he’s right or wrong (he’s wrong btw) it looks like he’s forgotten how to behave in a relationship. What he thinks is a reflection of how he sees the world.

Jazzjazzjazz · 12/01/2025 16:31

I have 5 brothers who speak openly to me about this stuff, 3 of them are 100% all eyes for one woman they love!

Jazzjazzjazz · 12/01/2025 16:30

coldcallerbaiter · 12/01/2025 16:22

I personally think most men would, with their type/preference not just with anyone, if given the opportunity with a guarantee of zero detection - sorry. It is like eating a zero calorie cake and nobody knowing, no consequences.

The ones that would not in that scenario would be mainly low testosterone types.

Edited

Nonsense. Many have a high sex drive but it’s not just sparked by anyone, takes a bit more than that, and if they see sex as part of love. Stupid comment to say only low testosterone men wouldn’t shag someone else if they could get away with it. Some men have a bit more depth to them than that

Jazzjazzjazz · 12/01/2025 16:27

People who are saying “yes they would- sorry”, you don’t need to be sorry, you aren’t breaking news to people, this is from your own worldview, circle of people, and your own personality/ desires. You can not speak for everyone, and you cannot speak for most people, only for yourself and your worldview. As someone else pointed out, for many they wouldn’t cheat not because they are worried about being found out, but literally because they do not want to. Me personally, I’ve only got eyes for my lover, but perhaps many haven’t had true love or passion and so they imagine what that might feel like and their low moral bar takes them over that boundary, I’ve zero interest in anyone unless I’m very very into someone, and nobody else is going to take me away from someone or spark interest in me, when I’m very into someone. Problem is so many settle for fear of being alone, and then desire everyone else going, you should set your partner free to find someone that wants just them, unless you’re both of the same mind and happy to toddle along until the grass gets greener

coldcallerbaiter · 12/01/2025 16:22

I personally think most men would, with their type/preference not just with anyone, if given the opportunity with a guarantee of zero detection - sorry. It is like eating a zero calorie cake and nobody knowing, no consequences.

The ones that would not in that scenario would be mainly low testosterone types.