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Husband says any man would cheat given the opportunity

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Esgd27 · 12/01/2025 01:53

I’m a bit gobsmacked. Been with my DH for 30 years and have 2 grown up kid. Our relationship is generally ok.
We were watching a TV show tonight in which a woman hired a private detective to seduce her husband to see if he was faithful to her. My DH said it was unfair as it was entrapment. I said it was a bit odd but I guess the fictional wife had some concerns and was testing her husband. My DH doubled down by saying that all men would cheat given the opportunity. I challenged him and asked if he felt like that (ie he would cheat given half a chance). He said that he would and that any man would.
A very frosty exchange followed. He raised his voice and then tried to backtrack saying that wasn’t what he’d said and he didn’t mean it. But he did definitely say it. He’d drunk a bottle of wine so no doubt that exacerbated his truculence. He then went to bed in a huff.
I’m don’t particularly think he’s been /being unfaithful - and as a slightly plump balding 60 year old I don’t think he’s exactly Casanova.
I’ve tried to tell myself that it was just a slightly drunken silly remark. But I am still fuming - I thought it was a pretty rude and disrespectful thing to say to your wife. Particularly as he doubled down and didn’t apologise. He just didn’t seem to care or think what he was saying and it raised some concerns with me about his underlying moral code.

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MaryGreenhill · 12/01/2025 08:51

He's wrong

Garlicnorth · 12/01/2025 08:49

This indicates that, if he's been faithful to you all this time, it's only because no-one else wanted him! Not exactly affirming, is it? You should be bloody annoyed, he's effectively said you're what he had to settle for.

He's an idiot. I sincerely hope you'll get the profuse apology you deserve.

He's also wrong, by the way. These honeytrap agencies do exist, and they do have satisfied customers - that is, targets who turn down the opportunity even though the 'trap' is chosen to suit their preference.

OldScribbler · 12/01/2025 08:45

RogueFemale · 12/01/2025 02:22

I voted YABU because most men will cheat given the opportunity, but of those men who'd like to cheat, some will be deterred by the chance of discovery.

Zero chance of discovery is very rare.

So the ones who cheat either don't care, or are very stupid.

For women, the question is, do I want a highly sexed man or not.

This of course depends on the context. If you have a great sex life, no need for him to look elsewhere. If you don't he may. My behaviour was appalling. My job involved a lot of travel, I was the head of a large international business, quite well known in its field, did a lot of speaking had published some books, In the end my wife divorced me, with good cause. Now she lives in some splendour and I don't. Serves me right and I have no complaints.

MissDoubleU · 12/01/2025 08:38

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You don’t see the issue with a husband saying he would absolutely cheat if a woman came on to him? Are you insane?

Ohthatsabitshit · 12/01/2025 08:36

I’d be interested to know why he thinks it’s only men?

YourNimbleOchrePoster · 12/01/2025 08:36

My husband would never say that in a million years, he is staunchly anti cheating

A couple of my friends were married to lovely guys, both vocal anti cheats, they both cheated.

CheeseTime · 12/01/2025 08:35

Someone actually did a study on this. Found that most men would cheat if there was absolutely zero chance of being discovered.

I can’t get too excited about it. If men are not cheating because it would upset their partners then that’s good. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be one of the ones who would like to if it was consequence free.

My friend’s DH died suddenly which caused her to have unexpected access to his information. He had been cheating when he was abroad. I know he never meant for her to know and would have been devastated at the upset it caused.

Katemax82 · 12/01/2025 08:32

My husband would never say that in a million years, he is staunchly anti cheating

YourNimbleOchrePoster · 12/01/2025 08:28

Well he’s only giving his opinion and obviously not every single man in the world would cheat, it’s probably more like 90%.

Daisy12Maisie · 12/01/2025 08:24

I work in a male dominated industry and there are lots of men who are "happily married" and "family men". Most of them have had affairs over the years. It's really sad. I don't think all men would cheat if they had a chance. Some just wouldn't. But there are a lot that would/ have and their partners believe they wouldn't.

Do I think my partner would cheat. Hmmm who knows. I have never had any suspicion or any reason to think he would but you can never, ever be sure.

yipyipyop · 12/01/2025 04:33

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 12/01/2025 03:51

I believe more people than you think would do all manner of things if they knew they would face zero consequences.

I agree

SecretSoul · 12/01/2025 04:28

So in other words, the only reason he hasn’t cheated is due to lack of opportunity?!

I think it’s normal to feel attracted to others, probably even more so for men. But being actually willing to cheat is something different - plenty of men wouldn’t cheat because they connect sex and intimacy, and they wouldn’t be able to face being so disloyal to a partner they love.

I know it’s only theoretical but I’d actually be really hurt by this.

It’s only one step away from saying he’s only stayed with you because no better offers have come along.

A half-drunken conversation about famous people you find attractive - fine. But telling your spouse that you’d actually cheat on them if you could? 😳 Fucking hell. Absolutely not ok.

I’m not entirely sure what I’d do with this information but I don’t think I would be able to just shrug it off. Maybe see what he says in the morning?

My DP can be a real nob at times (as can I) but I’m confident that it’s not lack of opportunity that means we’re both faithful. I wouldn’t touch another man, regardless of how hot he was, and I’m certain that my DP wouldn’t do anything with a woman either. Not everyone enjoys random shags - even men 🤷‍♀️

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 12/01/2025 03:51

I believe more people than you think would do all manner of things if they knew they would face zero consequences.

YouZirName · 12/01/2025 03:47

Mirenamirena · 12/01/2025 03:42

Whilst I’m sure that some men would not cheat, there are many women (and men) who could not believe that their partner would ever cheat on them only to find that, sadly, they were wrong.

We are animals, with a thin veneer of civilisation, and there are biological impulses at play. I think the majority of men would cheat if they had the opportunity.

Agreed.

He's right, and it's obviously an uncomfortable truth for you.

Guitaryah · 12/01/2025 03:45

It was a stupid remark on the back of a frivolous and largely pointless, wine-fuelled disagreement on the back of a fictional TV show. He clearly can't speak for all men and unless he has actually been in the situation he can't even speak truly for himself.

I do agree with this, can see why you're hurt by his comments OP. I don't think all men would cheat given the chance, I think a lot would though. I didn't used to be so jaded until I worked in a male dominated job and whew I was surprised.

Mirenamirena · 12/01/2025 03:42

Whilst I’m sure that some men would not cheat, there are many women (and men) who could not believe that their partner would ever cheat on them only to find that, sadly, they were wrong.

We are animals, with a thin veneer of civilisation, and there are biological impulses at play. I think the majority of men would cheat if they had the opportunity.

Coldcoldwinterweather · 12/01/2025 03:39

I would be extremely upset OP.

It's not so much the " all men" would cheat , because that's obviously not true. It's the fact he is giving away his own feelings: that he doesn't love or respect you enough to want to be faithful to you.

Whether or not he has cheated is almost irrelevant because he has now made you aware of his fantasies when he looks at other women. And personally I think out of respect to you he should have kept such fantasies to himself.

Jazzjazzjazz · 12/01/2025 03:24

I was with a man like this. I’m surprised it hasn’t reared its head before now, have there not been any signs regarding the way he thinks about these things in the 30 years you’ve been together? He’s fooling himself by the way. Anyone that claims to speak for a whole group of people has very little insight. Some men, maybe many men would, but not not all. For many it would turn their stomach to think of it.

Guest100 · 12/01/2025 03:14

It sounds like he would like to, but hasn’t been given the chance.

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poemsandwine · 12/01/2025 02:45

I think it's the case for a lot of men and quite a lot of women. All you have to do is read on here. The husbands don't cheat on their own.

Davegrohlsnewwife · 12/01/2025 02:39

I had a conversation with a married male friend, who confessed that if he had the opportunity to cheat with a younger model, he would. He said he'd hate to get older and regret not having his chance with another woman. I was gobsmacked. I don't think he has cheated, but this made me think he would - given the chance. I think perhaps though, sometimes it's the idea - the fantasy, that appeals - reality is a very different thing. Men seem to put more importance on their sexual appeal to others, whereas women seem to be more concerned with staying attractive for their man (massive generalisation I know - but going on what I have witnessed). I don't know if it's a genetic thing or what, but to verbalise it out loud, and defend it, is a pretty dim thing to do. I don't think he's considered the implications of his words, felt a bit silly, then huffed off. I would talk to him when he's sober, he'll probably back track considerably - because with most men at this stage of life, they stand to lose a hell of a lot more than their wives do.

Lollipopsicle · 12/01/2025 02:34

WalkingThroughTreacle · 12/01/2025 02:16

LTB, change the locks, get your ducks in a row, smash the penis beaker and deploy the penguin bollards. It was a stupid remark on the back of a frivolous and largely pointless, wine-fuelled disagreement on the back of a fictional TV show. He clearly can't speak for all men and unless he has actually been in the situation he can't even speak truly for himself.

.*..deploy the penguin bollards

😂*

EdnaTheWitch · 12/01/2025 02:34

I’ve just asked mine, half comatosed, and he says no 🤷🏻‍♀️