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AIBU to think MIL should come to us after baby is born, not expect us to drive?

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rocketdogjazzin · 11/01/2025 17:18

My MIL lives about 150 miles and 3.5 hours away from us, and we’ve made the trip to visit her four times this year. She made the return journey once, but now she’s becoming increasingly reluctant to make the drive herself.

We’re expecting our first baby in March, and when we visited last week, she casually mentioned that we’ll be visiting her soon with the newborn. I just said, "Well, we’ll have to see how everyone is," because it got me thinking that we’re not really sure when or how a trip like that would work.

The baby’s car seat does have a lie-flat mode, but I’m concerned about the long journey, especially considering that babies are supposed to be in car seats for a limited time (half-hour stretches for the first 4-6 weeks). Plus, I have no idea how I’ll be feeling post-birth, and I’ll be establishing breastfeeding and settling into new parenthood. Selfishly, I think it would be much easier for me to stay at home where I’m comfortable and have everything set up, rather than trying to manage a long drive and staying at her house.

Also, MIL tends to be around constantly when we visit - it is her home after all - and I’m anticipating that I’ll want some space with the baby especially in those first few weeks. I’d prefer to limit visitors to a few hours at a time, but I’m not sure how that would go down at her house when we're the visitors.

AIBU to think that we should stay home until we’re happy with the journey and not commit to anything until we know for sure? I also think if MIL wants to meet the baby, she can come to us. I’m just not ready for long journeys and staying away from home so soon after giving birth. I realise I probably should have said something when she brought it up, but I was so taken aback that I didn’t know how to respond. Now it feels awkward to go back and say it won’t work. I’m hoping she doesn’t bring it up again but want to know if that's reasonable.

OP posts:
Nejnej · 12/01/2025 13:56

YANBU
It's a 3 hour drive to visit my dad, and we usually go at least every other month - but we didn't travel down until my LO was 8 weeks old and I was more confident and comfortable.

They're still very newborn for people to meet, but can go longer in the car seat and you'll be much more recovered. If we had a second I'd definitely do the same, wouldn't want to travel sooner

EntropyCentral · 12/01/2025 13:24

Tell her to come on the train and you'll pick her up from the station

crosstalk · 12/01/2025 13:00

I'm another viewing "next time you come here you'll have a baby" as having two meanings (1) matter of fact - whether it's a six weeks, months or years or (2) expectation that the OP will travel with a young baby - if under six weeks stopping every 30 minutes during the journey - or perhaps at 4 months when the baby is more able to travel, but we don't know. If it's (1) then people are being unfair and (2) given the MIL has ME, we don't know enough. But either way, it's worth OP and her partner working out what they think they are prepared to do including mentioning airbnbs for any stay, mentioning assisted travel and offering to organise, and just reassuring his mother she can see the baby remotely, she will be included and that a visit one way or other will be organised when the parents know what they're dealing with and what they feel capable of.

rocketdogjazzin · 12/01/2025 12:51

Trainham · 12/01/2025 11:04

Re train travel .mil can book assistance even if mobile. I use it for a family member when they have to travel alone due to their needs. They can help with connections ,getting to seat etc. It has always been helpful and successful.

That's good to know about train assistance. We've used the service for my grandmother before, but only with a direct train so knowing there's help for train journeys with connections is really useful.

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2JFDIYOLO · 12/01/2025 12:50

Bear in mind that while she WANTS you to come and bring the baby, you and the baby NEED to be safe. Needs are more important than wants, no matter how much emotional pressure is applied.

rocketdogjazzin · 12/01/2025 12:47

heldinadream · 12/01/2025 10:58

How severe is her ME? That complicates matters, if she's essentially disabled.

Her condition improves and worsen in waves. That said, I sometimes notice that she tends to rely quite heavily on DH and expects him to handle a lot for her. For instance during our last visit, she asked him to scan some QR code vouchers for her. When DH tried to teach her how to do it herself, she replied, "I don't need to learn; I have a son for that." Moments like these make me wonder if she might be capable of doing more on her own if the circumstances required it. She goes on biannual coach trips with her hobby groups too, and while these wipe her out afterwards she enjoys them and considers that worth it. I suppose the difference is that is these are door to door for her, with a friend taking her to the coach and then one trip, rather than a long drive or three trains. I do recognize that her disability makes things more challenging, especially during the winter months, which seem harder on her than summer. Hopefully, with a March baby, it might be easier for her to visit us.

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Gogogo12345 · 12/01/2025 12:47

rocketdogjazzin · 12/01/2025 12:31

My understanding is that the timer resets when you remove the baby from the car seat, so if you take the baby out of the seat at the school then buckle them back in for the way back that's within the guidance. But if long journeys are unavoidable then there are true lie flat seats (Joie and Nuna have them) but they take up an extra seat in the car and even though the flat position is best for their airways, it's not as safe in a crash situation where a 45° angle is safest (even though that's worse for their airways). But it's only in the first 4-6 weeks when their heads are so heavy and necks are really weak it's a such tight limit, after that they can travel for longer. And it's not like it's suddenly dangerous at 31 minutes either, and everyone can risk assess for what works for them (but the 3.5 hour journey to MIL's is clearly way beyond that!).

Oh I wouldn't have been taking the baby out of the seat. Just pulling up dropping DD at gate and turning round. Thankfully was never considered a. Issue then

TheThreeMiracles · 12/01/2025 12:37

Wow ! She's expecting a bit much! I'd say no now and put your foot down on this one! It's far too long to travel with a new born and also with recovering after birth ! Yanbu at all!! Xx

Dramallama91 · 12/01/2025 12:36

Having had a newborn baby go blue after 10 minutes in a car seat YANBU.

The risk is small but it's there

2JFDIYOLO · 12/01/2025 12:33

You just say NO.

How does she imagine your post birth nether regions will cope with sitting on a car seat for that distance? Your DH also needs to be made quite clear on THAT subject and to be on your side.

Then there's breastfeeding and nappy changes.

Advice is that babies should not be in a car seat for more than two hours.

If she wants to see the baby, you decide when / if you feel you will be up to having a visitor.

She and your husband decide the logistics of how she is going to get to yours.

Your DH steps up and gets the house ready for his mother.

And you will not be rushing about cooking and making coffee etc. You will be preoccupied with your new baby.

rocketdogjazzin · 12/01/2025 12:31

Gogogo12345 · 12/01/2025 11:59

How does that work for example if you have a 20 min each way drive to drop an older kid at school?

But yes the MIL can make the journey. I manage to drive 4 hours when my DD1 had hers

Edited

My understanding is that the timer resets when you remove the baby from the car seat, so if you take the baby out of the seat at the school then buckle them back in for the way back that's within the guidance. But if long journeys are unavoidable then there are true lie flat seats (Joie and Nuna have them) but they take up an extra seat in the car and even though the flat position is best for their airways, it's not as safe in a crash situation where a 45° angle is safest (even though that's worse for their airways). But it's only in the first 4-6 weeks when their heads are so heavy and necks are really weak it's a such tight limit, after that they can travel for longer. And it's not like it's suddenly dangerous at 31 minutes either, and everyone can risk assess for what works for them (but the 3.5 hour journey to MIL's is clearly way beyond that!).

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gamerchick · 12/01/2025 12:11

You don't have to go back and say anything OP. Just let your bloke tell her afterwards that it's not going to happen yet and she's welcome to come and visit if she wants to meet the baby or she can have a video call.

Gogogo12345 · 12/01/2025 11:59

Pigsinblankets13 · 11/01/2025 17:43

Newborns can't be in a car seat for more than 30 mins at a time so it would be an absolute nightmare to travel that far! Let alone all the things you'd need, how you'll be feeling etc.

If she wants to see her grandchild that much then surely she'd understand that and make the effort!

How does that work for example if you have a 20 min each way drive to drop an older kid at school?

But yes the MIL can make the journey. I manage to drive 4 hours when my DD1 had hers

StripyHorse · 12/01/2025 11:51

Overthebow · 11/01/2025 17:30

No you likely won’t be up to traveling long distances for a bit. Maybe say you’ll come when you and baby are ready but she’s welcome to come to visit before that if she wants to meet baby.

Perfect response!

TheCatterall · 12/01/2025 11:26

@rocketdogjazzin As @Trainham states you can book assistance when travelling by train. I have several friends that use the service and it’s always been very good.

other than that DH needs to state that you won’t be in a position to host or travel for the first few weeks/months.

Video calls?

heldinadream · 12/01/2025 11:18

@Trainham That's useful to know, I have a friend with ME who wants to visit me by train but isn't sure she can and I'm not sure she knows about that. Thanks.

Trainham · 12/01/2025 11:04

Re train travel .mil can book assistance even if mobile. I use it for a family member when they have to travel alone due to their needs. They can help with connections ,getting to seat etc. It has always been helpful and successful.

heldinadream · 12/01/2025 10:58

How severe is her ME? That complicates matters, if she's essentially disabled.

rocketdogjazzin · 12/01/2025 10:53

I'm relieved to see that the consensus is that I'm not being unreasonable, and it's not just me avoiding conflict by waiting to address this after the baby arrives. Someone asked about her age - she's in her 60s and has ME which makes things more challenging for her, and is why we've been doing most of the traveling so far. The train journey is about the same length as driving, but it does involve two connections, which I can see being a significant issue for her. Picking her up from the second train to make the journey easier would mean DH would need to drive to Birmingham New Street, which causes more hassle than saves. That said, the option to travel by train is still there, and DH is happy to pick her up from a local station if needed. If that’s not acceptable to her, then she’ll have to wait.

I’m also not comfortable having overnight guests right away while I'm settling in, so she’d need to stay in a hotel instead of with us unless she's willing to wait until we’re more settled. There are some B&Bs in town which are a bit pricy, and Premier Inns a bit further out, but the area isn’t well-served by public transport so DH would need to drive her to and from the hotel. DH is very supportive and has made it clear that we’ll do what’s best for me and the baby, and his mum will just have to figure it out.

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SchoolDilemma17 · 12/01/2025 07:45

The first time I did a journey like this, baby was 14 weeks and the journey took double the time (6-7 hours) as we had to stop for breastfeeding, nappy changes etc. I would not make any plans to drive that long soon after birth. MIL can come and see baby.

Bluefields96 · 12/01/2025 07:42

Your DH can organise a driver for her. A friend or a taxi.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 12/01/2025 07:38

Lavender14 · 11/01/2025 18:09

Just make it really clear op that you'll only be making the drive when you physically feel up to it and when baby is a little older and can cope with the long journey in the car but if she wants to see baby before then she's welcome to visit.

To do stops every 30 minutes would take you absolutely ages so I just wouldn't be setting myself up for that. My family lived 2 hrs away and I didn't drive the whole way to their with ds for a few months but I met them halfway a few times and hosted them as much as they wanted to visit.

You just do what suits you in the early months op and other people can work round you.

I'm assuming there is public transport available for the majority of her journey so no reading why she can't get a bus or train and be collected by your dh.

Erm do what suits you forever not just in the early months.

neilyoungismyhero · 12/01/2025 00:04

Apologies, meant to vote YANBU, fat fingers.

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 11/01/2025 23:58

For goodness sake stop worrying about something that hasn't even happened yet OP. Once you've had the baby, if MIL wants to see him/her, and you don't feel like travelling at that point, just tell her. 'Sorry MIL, we're not up to travelling with baby yet, we'll happily introduce you by FaceTime, but if you want a cuddle I'm afraid you'll have to come to us at this stage'. It really isn't that difficult!

ThatsNotMyTeen · 11/01/2025 23:53

What a ridiculous woman

Has she conveniently forgotten exactly what it is like to have a new baby?

YANBU