To send them home? (trigger warning grooming gangs)

Well we do deport foreign national prisoners who are sentenced to more than 12 months (think it’s 12 months). If they aren’t being removed, then they are probably british citizens, and it’s much harder to revoke citizenship (but not impossible).

Did you actually report the op? Or did you realise that’s too pathetic? 🤣

Quoting a post from January must have taken some digging. 🤪

Hate speech 🤣🤣

It would appear that’s only happened 3 times, and all in terrorism cases.

unless you can find evidence that Australia regularly strips people of citizenship for committing a crime? From the information I can find it doesn’t happen.

https://globalcit.eu/constitutional-challenges-to-the-stripping-of-australian-citizenship-an-update/

So if some is dual like many perps in the grooming gangs what then

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2023/12/2/qa-un-expert-on-australia-citizenship-stripping-plan-and-legal-fiction

this would disagree with you and him. Australia did consider legislation that would let them strip serious criminals of citizenship, but as it stands they can’t, it was ruled invalid.

There seems to be very limited information available on the ethnicity and religion of the victims. Do you have any reputable evidence for your assertion that "no" Muslim girls were involved?

Ah well, if DH says they are illegals, that'll be right then.

@GrouachMacbeth look at what's come out with priests and the catholic church.
We are still uncovering hideous crime and yet Catholicism and the church of England has no strangle hold on us anymore.

Can you imagine what's going on in reported in " families" "where cousin marriage is happening so if you dobbed your husband in your upsetting everyone in your family?

You risk loosing everyone possibly life threats...

We can't possibly know what's going on.

Unfortunately.

Apologies if I've already mentioned this but I saw an extremely eye opening interview with a man who is part of some police foundation. He had previously been part of border force in Oz and he said there would be no issue or question that criminals like this would be chucked out of oz.
Eg the man who was stripped of his citizenship but still resides here after committing heinous life ruining crimes.

He said they very clearly put theirs citizens before criminals, victim before criminal.

He said we in the UK struggle with this concept.

Victim BEFORE criminal.

A friends daughter is a survivor of one of rhe North west's grooming gangs she was 14 and her sexual assault was filmed and distributed. All of the men identified in the video were British two of them were white one black and two South East Asian. Not quite sure where you'd send everyone back to. At least if they are here we can make sure they serve their sentence rather than going to another country with less robust justice systems and being able to pay someone off for early release.

Yes, good point. I understand the Asian girls were if a different religion - Sikhs and Hindus. The offenders were Muslim. I think religion is a protected characteristic. No Muslim girls were raped or enslaved.

What a shame the national crime data doesn't support that contention.

Most of the original bunch convicted were illegal immigrants and were due to be deported. Like a lot of illegals they never got sent back.

DH as been a police officer for 20 years and he said most criminals they deal with these days are not British, don’t work and have come here with (often violent) criminal pasts. In fact many of them are illegals

So are we now saying that British citizens of Pakistani origin should have their citizenship revoked in this situation? How far back do we go? Grandparents, if their family hasn't integrated? And what about if Pakistan won"t accept them?

They'd have to prove a racist motive. I note that at least some of the victims of some of the Asian gangs were Asian themselves.

How on earth would that work? Please?

These men raping children must be locked up forever.

Those men found with a naked 14yr old must be hanged. I am not an advocate of capital punishment but those that harm children and animals have no place on this earth. Scum.

If a group on men of one race rape, torture and abuse girls of either a different race or races why was racism not included in the charges for which they were prosecuted?

racism is rife on " the other site" Its unbelievable that it's permitted tbh.

Or is it?

The poll result displays what is developing into quite racist undertone on Mumsnet, inspired by new posters like the one who has started this thread and disguised as concern 'for our young girls'.

Of course grooming gangs is a huge issue, however time and again in all the numerous ' isn't Elon Musk great' threads and in here, there seems to be a cognitive dissonance with the fact that there has been an extensive enquiry and review with measures being put in place by this Government after the previous one didn't do anything, and that most perpetrators are British, so the ' Send 'em back' rhetoric is senseless.

Of course, posters will sneer and scoff at the accusations of racism, but it is there as clear as anything.

Or are you only talking about brown people?

Like " you have committed a crime, go to the country where your Grandparents came from"

That'll work.

I think all dual nationals can risk one of their citizenships being revoked (because they have another, so will not be stateless). Not saying this is right. Same as having two citizenships means that (in theory) you could be conscripted to fight for one of your countries and your other citizenship can't prevent that. Not saying this is right.

Are you actually talking about stripping people of British citizenship that were actually born here?!

How does that work? How far back can we go? My son is half Irish, if he were to (god forbid) commit a crime when he grows up, would we send him back to Ireland? Or are you only talking about brown people?