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To think that DH should also do some form of flexible working?

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Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 07:39

For the last 4 years I have worked a compressed week (working full time into 4 days) and looked after DC on the other day whilst DH works. It’s been hard going, and I’ve saved us a family a lot of money over the years, got more time with the kids and they’ve spent less time in childcare. All been worth it.

youngest DC starts school in September and I’ve landed a new job which will be very demanding and stressful and although they have said I can do it over a compressed week, I’m not sure for my own sanity whether I can do it all.

i have said to DH that for a period of 6 months I think we should either a) he commits to all drops offs in the morning and the pick ups when he is WFH (so 6 out of 10 pick ups across the week) so I can do the compressed hours. Or we both compress into 4.5 days and split childcare over the 5th day. This is only for a period of 6 months until youngest DC starts school.

DH doesn’t want to do either and would rather pay for another day of childcare. That would be £350 extra a month, which I would just much rather keep and put in savings or whatever. We already pay a fortune in childcare. DH thinks it will affect his career as his boss ‘doesn’t believe in flexible working’, yet I’m in a very (more) senior position and have been granted it!

of course we have fallen out over it, does anyone have any better ideas how to manage this?

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Phineyj · 11/01/2025 09:30

DH has always done more drop offs and pick ups than me. He's got a more flexible job and is already out in the car.

He's always earned more than me.

I take the strain in the school holidays.

Shinyandnew1 · 11/01/2025 09:29

yet I’m in a very (more) senior position and have been granted it!

Yes, senior positions generally bring more flexibility!

If he doesn't want to do the majority of the drop offs/pick ups, then just pay the £350 a month for 6 months.

Bobbybobbins · 11/01/2025 09:29

My DH has flexible working as do I - we have two DC with disabilities so no options on childcare outside school hours. It was definitely an adjustment for him - he works in a very male dominated industry and sometimes is still asked eg why he can't do something at 8.30am on a Tuesday. The fortunate aspect is he works for himself with different clients so can put the flexibility into his own schedule.

NoSquirrels · 11/01/2025 09:27

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:22

Sorry and the reason why is he thinks an 8am start is too much stress although he doesn’t start until 9, but it means I’m not available to deal with the kids.

He needs to drop and pick up and he should have been doing that all along.

You’re burying the lede here.

Dishwashersaurous · 11/01/2025 09:27

Two slightly different issues.

  1. Sharing drop off and pick ups.

That's a complete no brainer that both of you should do it, and that it doesn't have to be 50/50, particularly as you've done more over the years.

  1. Him doing compressed hours for six months.

It sounds like he has a company where this won't be acceptable and will be negatively perceived. And make his working life more difficult.

His solution is an extra day of childcare which seems sensible

Tisthedamnseason · 11/01/2025 09:25

Childcare is there from 8-6, but that’s literally my working hours and so I would need DH to do the drop offs and picks ups when he is not in the office (his hours are 9-5 WFH three days a week).

Wait what?? He's refusing to pick up and drop off his own children outside of his working hours when he's wfh so there's no commuting time either?

Why is this even a question? Obviously he should be doing this. This doesn't even require flexible working!

BlueMum16 · 11/01/2025 09:24

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:18

I did discuss and said don’t think I can take it on as it’s too much. He told me we would make it work and he would help me in whatever way he could, but when it actually comes to the crunch his solution is more childcare not provided by him…

It's only 6 months.
You have said compressed hours are difficult for you.
His employer does offer it.
I see you have no choice but childcare.
It's only 6 months.

QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 09:24

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:22

Sorry and the reason why is he thinks an 8am start is too much stress although he doesn’t start until 9, but it means I’m not available to deal with the kids.

Ok, that actually is unreasonable.

I'd focus on that, rather than wanting him to make flexible working requests he knows aren't going to be accepted, and expecting him to try and change the whole way he does his job because of your value judgement about childcare costs.

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:22

Sorry and the reason why is he thinks an 8am start is too much stress although he doesn’t start until 9, but it means I’m not available to deal with the kids.

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Dishwashersaurous · 11/01/2025 09:22

Compressed hours are really tough on individuals and the company, and often other people working there.

It's OK for you to want to do it, but it's also OK for him to want to pay for childcare and do a normal working week

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:21

QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 09:19

Is he not willing to commit to the 3 days a week pick up and drop off when he's wfh? That, at least, is pretty unreasonable. If he's doing a 9 to 5 and the nursery does 8 to 6, unless it's some ridiculous distance he surely could do that.

He is willing to do that, but I’ve asked he do all morning drops off too. Those days he is in office he would work later, and I will do pick up those nights, plus the whole day on Friday I would do pick up/drop off and childcare. So he’s doing 6 and I’m doing 4, but he doesn’t want to do that.

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QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 09:19

Is he not willing to commit to the 3 days a week pick up and drop off when he's wfh? That, at least, is pretty unreasonable. If he's doing a 9 to 5 and the nursery does 8 to 6, unless it's some ridiculous distance he surely could do that.

Gogogo12345 · 11/01/2025 09:19

DustyLee123 · 11/01/2025 07:53

Sounds like he’d rather work than parent. I hope you have the same amount in your pension as he has.

She probably has more as in a more senior role. What's the relevance of hat anyway

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:18

NewMum3000 · 11/01/2025 09:10

Everyone is on here bashing the husband but what about OP? Maybe this discussion should have been had before she accepted the job. If the day a week means so much to her that it’s causing an issue in her relationship then maybe she should have had the discussion with husband earlier?

At the end of the day it’s six months. Your children aren’t going to be mentally scared by another day in childcare.

I also think if OP and husband don’t work at the same company then she can’t comment on him being able to work flexibly etc.

I did discuss and said don’t think I can take it on as it’s too much. He told me we would make it work and he would help me in whatever way he could, but when it actually comes to the crunch his solution is more childcare not provided by him…

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WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 11/01/2025 09:18

Assuming your DH is being truthful about his boss’s attitude, i can understand his reluctance to ask, but I don’t understand why that stops him doing pick ups.

But unless he works for a very small company, where his boss is the owner, I’d still be asking him to put on his big boy pants, and not throw away thousands of pounds because he doesn’t want to annoy his manager. Like lots of women do, he can submit a request and put forward a case for how he could do his job while working compressed hours. The fact that it’s only for 6 months and 4.5 days should make it easier. Attitudes aside, there are jobs that are hard to do in a compressed working pattern - mine would be very difficult (but I have bags of flexibility otherwise), DH’s would be easier - you’ll know whether that’s the case for your DH.

If he’s really working somewhere that is pretty archaic when it comes to flexible working for dads, I’d be asking him to look elsewhere. You have a young family, you both work, you both need to be sble to juggle the workload. I have a much more senior job than DH, there’s no way I could do my job well if I was solely responsible for making childcare work, sick days and the such like, while doing compressed hours.

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:17

PheasantPluckers · 11/01/2025 09:03

Would he be looking after a reception aged child after school pick-up? If so, that'd be a hard no from me, that would be really stressful.

Would after school club work instead on his WFH days? He could could up at 5:15/5:30 or whatever? Even that 30 mins makes a difference! Or is that the wraparound you meant?

No the school aged DC are in wraparound and so no one is working with kids around, it’s impossible and not something we would ever do.

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NoSquirrels · 11/01/2025 09:17

He needs to do drop-off/pick-up equally through the week.

You need to concentrate on your job for 6 months - get the extra childcare, even if it’s only half a day on a Friday or every other week (which should be manageable if you can work longer on days he picks up/drops off).

You both need to consider that it’ll all change with everyone at school so a different flex may be needed then.

You need to remember there’s a long game in all this and this 6 months if Fridays isn’t the most important thing. (Though I understand it feels big now.)

Snowmanscarf · 11/01/2025 09:12

Different companies have different cultures, flexibility is accepted in your company, but not in his.

NewMum3000 · 11/01/2025 09:10

Everyone is on here bashing the husband but what about OP? Maybe this discussion should have been had before she accepted the job. If the day a week means so much to her that it’s causing an issue in her relationship then maybe she should have had the discussion with husband earlier?

At the end of the day it’s six months. Your children aren’t going to be mentally scared by another day in childcare.

I also think if OP and husband don’t work at the same company then she can’t comment on him being able to work flexibly etc.

QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 09:06

he has made no formal requests but his boss said to him that another dad in the team asked for a compressed week and he said he wouldn’t approve it because he just thinks people should work all week if they work full time as they’re getting away with less if they do a compressed week. DH says he will make his life difficult if he tries to get it approved.

Do you think he's lying? Because if not, if this is accurate, it would seem to be a pretty good reason not to ask. The poster who said the worse they can do is say no is being very optimistic.

ThisQuickPlumFinch · 11/01/2025 09:04

Mine didn't step up and change his working pattern until we divorced and he needs to collect them on Friday / Mondays. I don't think it was in his mindset, men didn't do that. I don't even think it crossed his mind to be honest.

Times are changing and men are working different patterns but not all companies or men are doing the same.

PheasantPluckers · 11/01/2025 09:03

Would he be looking after a reception aged child after school pick-up? If so, that'd be a hard no from me, that would be really stressful.

Would after school club work instead on his WFH days? He could could up at 5:15/5:30 or whatever? Even that 30 mins makes a difference! Or is that the wraparound you meant?

klopteaklrd · 11/01/2025 09:03

OP what are you asking from him exactly? For him to go compressed for 6 months? Or to do pick ups so you can continue to compress?

Allihavetodoisdream · 11/01/2025 09:01

I think he should put his big boy pants on and ask. The worst thing they can do is say no. He’s legally entitled to ask and I’d be very unimpressed if I were you tbh.

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 08:57

thanks all for the responses.

so DC are in nursery/wraparound four days a week. So no working whilst they’re at home or expecting anyone to do pick ups in the middle of the working day. Childcare is there from 8-6, but that’s literally my working hours and so I would need DH to do the drop offs and picks ups when he is not in the office (his hours are 9-5 WFH three days a week).

he has made no formal requests but his boss said to him that another dad in the team asked for a compressed week and he said he wouldn’t approve it because he just thinks people should work all week if they work full time as they’re getting away with less if they do a compressed week. DH says he will make his life difficult if he tries to get it approved.

I think deep down I feel like I’ve done a massive shift over the last few years of working and childcare (wanted that time with the kids too of course) and I feel resentful that he can’t just pick up the slack for the last 6 months of it and free me up and make my life easier. His answer to that is more childcare but I think my kids really benefit from that one day of being with me in the week.

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