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To think that DH should also do some form of flexible working?

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Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 07:39

For the last 4 years I have worked a compressed week (working full time into 4 days) and looked after DC on the other day whilst DH works. It’s been hard going, and I’ve saved us a family a lot of money over the years, got more time with the kids and they’ve spent less time in childcare. All been worth it.

youngest DC starts school in September and I’ve landed a new job which will be very demanding and stressful and although they have said I can do it over a compressed week, I’m not sure for my own sanity whether I can do it all.

i have said to DH that for a period of 6 months I think we should either a) he commits to all drops offs in the morning and the pick ups when he is WFH (so 6 out of 10 pick ups across the week) so I can do the compressed hours. Or we both compress into 4.5 days and split childcare over the 5th day. This is only for a period of 6 months until youngest DC starts school.

DH doesn’t want to do either and would rather pay for another day of childcare. That would be £350 extra a month, which I would just much rather keep and put in savings or whatever. We already pay a fortune in childcare. DH thinks it will affect his career as his boss ‘doesn’t believe in flexible working’, yet I’m in a very (more) senior position and have been granted it!

of course we have fallen out over it, does anyone have any better ideas how to manage this?

OP posts:
IKnowThis · 11/01/2025 12:39

I still don't really understand. Is it that he'd rather you didn't compress so that you're both around for equal pick ups and drop offs? I don't know where him compressing too chilled into it or how it would be possible for either of you to do drop off or pick up if you're both working longer hours?

Up until now, can you post what your routine has looked like? And then the two options, what you're proposing and what he wants?

Eg previously:
Mon OP off so covering childcare
Tues OP drop off, DH pick up
Etc

I think it's really hard to comment without this clear info as we're all interpreting in different ways.

Caterina99 · 11/01/2025 12:31

I don’t really quite understand Op. I get that your DH doesn’t want to compress his hours and rock the boat.

But how is your first option that different to now? Surely if your kids are in childcare 8-6 and your DH wfh 9-5 for 3 days a week then he does the pickups and drop offs to allow you to work the longer hours. The 4th day you have a slight juggle presumably due to his commute and the 5th day you are home so do all childcare and school runs?

Your DH doesn’t want you to leave early/get back late so he has to be in charge of getting the kids to childcare alone? He’d rather you worked shorter hours each day and paid for the extra day childcare so you can do it and it doesn’t inconvenience him at all?

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 11:57

BarbaraHoward · 11/01/2025 10:24

Exactly. He doesn't want to do drop off at 8 when he starts work at 9 from home because it would mean getting his own children ready? Pah.

I do agree if that's his argument it's a stupid one

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 11:56

GrumpyPanda · 11/01/2025 10:38

Makes his life a bit easier you mean. Funny he didn't come up with his generous proposal to save OP from essentially working 1.2ft once you count in her care work on the extra day.

OP could have thought of it herself

Swonderful · 11/01/2025 11:53

Men often have a much harder time getting flexible working and are judged more for it. My husband did compressed hours a few years ago for a couple of years. They agreed to it but were constantly pressurising him to come back "full time".

Unfortunately men face discrimination too.

hotfirelog · 11/01/2025 11:19

Where I work compressed hours are allowed but it does put a strain on others who actually end up covering when the person is not in work. When mine were little it was much rarer so people just paid for breakfast club etc and childcare. Now with flexible working being so common half our staff seem to not be around until 9.30 and can't do anything at 3pm due to school runs. It's a massive pain at times as everything has to be squeezed into 10-3

GreyAreas · 11/01/2025 11:18

I'm torn. I mean he is definitely being unreasonable, and I was going to say ask him to decide how he is going to cover his half of the remaining childcare responsibilities (don't find the solution, don't pick up his slack). But actually he is proposing to cover his share by spending £2,100 of your joint money. Which is not entirely unreasonable as a choice.

GrumpyPanda · 11/01/2025 10:38

gabsdot45 · 11/01/2025 07:42

I don't think your husband is being unreasonable. Make your lives a bit easier and pay for the extra day childcare.

Makes his life a bit easier you mean. Funny he didn't come up with his generous proposal to save OP from essentially working 1.2ft once you count in her care work on the extra day.

Naunet · 11/01/2025 10:36

Catapultaway · 11/01/2025 10:31

I'm confused as to why anything needs to change to be honest. Option a is that you do the same compressed hours as before, which was 8 till 6? Who is doing drop offs and pick ups currently... can't be you, you're working?
It seems he's asked his boss, his boss has told him his views... which are not uncommon, do you doubt this is true?

I would doubt it was true seeing as he also doesn't want to do drop offs even though he can and is available. He sounds selfish and like he doesn't think parenting is his job.

Catapultaway · 11/01/2025 10:31

I'm confused as to why anything needs to change to be honest. Option a is that you do the same compressed hours as before, which was 8 till 6? Who is doing drop offs and pick ups currently... can't be you, you're working?
It seems he's asked his boss, his boss has told him his views... which are not uncommon, do you doubt this is true?

BarbaraHoward · 11/01/2025 10:24

MissDeborah · 11/01/2025 10:12

I didn't say a FT job was lazy just refusing to deal with his own children certainly is.

Exactly. He doesn't want to do drop off at 8 when he starts work at 9 from home because it would mean getting his own children ready? Pah.

MissDeborah · 11/01/2025 10:12

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 10:11

He's doing a full time job not lazing around in a spa. Agree he needs to be picking up household duties so it's fair

I didn't say a FT job was lazy just refusing to deal with his own children certainly is.

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 10:11

MissDeborah · 11/01/2025 10:09

If Op needs to work 8-6 she should just go out at 7.30 and leave the lazy git to cope.
Let's face it men do it all the time!!
He is being VVU
Essentially he wants a nice stress free life whilst Op is on her knees.
This would be LTB territory for me

He's doing a full time job not lazing around in a spa. Agree he needs to be picking up household duties so it's fair

MissDeborah · 11/01/2025 10:09

If Op needs to work 8-6 she should just go out at 7.30 and leave the lazy git to cope.
Let's face it men do it all the time!!
He is being VVU
Essentially he wants a nice stress free life whilst Op is on her knees.
This would be LTB territory for me

Ellie1015 · 11/01/2025 10:06

He is being ridiculous, it might be stressful for him but for you it is physically impossible. What is his solution? You go to work late everyday? How does he think that will play out??

EBoo80 · 11/01/2025 10:00

You are being SO reasonable. Men ‘finding it hard to ask’ is a self-fulfilling prophecy that feeds into unequal workplace cultures. He should interrogate his feelings about this. If his employers actually say no, then you have a backup plan, but him refusing to ask would make me lose some respect for him as a partner.

Ellie1015 · 11/01/2025 09:58

He has asked for compressed hours and been told no so that is not happening. Childcare on the 5th day seems necessary.

If he works 9-5 then of course he does the drop off and pick ups. You can possibly if out if the house 8-6. He is being very unreasonable about that.

MincePiesAndStilton · 11/01/2025 09:56

If you’re in a senior role, presumably you are paid well. Make your life easier and use the childcare.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 11/01/2025 09:50

I think lots of posters are missing the point. @Stuckbetweenarockandarock has carried a heavy load for years to save them money and ensure their kids get the best they can provide, she now needs help for 6 months and her DH isn’t willing to do it. I would imagine that feels like he doesn’t have her back and is undervaluing all the hard work she has put in over the years, which feels pretty shitty and would make me feel differently about my relationship as I would feel we aren’t the partnership I thought we were.

is that right @Stuckbetweenarockandarock ? if so have you put it in those terms rather than just focusing on logistics?

Jewel1968 · 11/01/2025 09:48

You say the new job will be difficult and compressed working might be more challenging. I think it will. I think compressed working is a very challenging flexible working approach. I have managed lots of people with flexible working patterns and this is the one that I think is most difficult for the individual.

My suggestion would be for you to go part time (if allowed) and have Fri off or for you DH to do this. I know this will be a financial hit but honestly I think it would be better for your well being.

peachystormy · 11/01/2025 09:43

Mummer123 · 11/01/2025 07:58

You’re being totally reasonable. He needs to step up too, he’s 50% of their parents. I work my 5 in 4 and it is very very stressful. Whenever I go back to work after maternity leave (currently 5 months pregnant) my husband is dropping down to 4 days so that he can look after our two children 1 day a week, I do 1 day on my day off and then creche for 3 days.

I agree

Wonderi · 11/01/2025 09:39

My employer doesn’t do flexible working and wouldn’t do condensed hours (I’ve tried).
So I’m with your DH on that one.

But your DH must get a lunch break, so is there any flexibility where he works through lunch and instead takes his break on the school run?

It does seem silly that he’s WFH and can’t do the school run.

BarbaraHoward · 11/01/2025 09:38

Stuckbetweenarockandarock · 11/01/2025 09:22

Sorry and the reason why is he thinks an 8am start is too much stress although he doesn’t start until 9, but it means I’m not available to deal with the kids.

In your OP I was torn - part "ugh Big Important Man Job" and part "for the sake of six months just make your lives easier and pay the childcare".

But the more you post the more it's clear he's just not willing to parent.

Solo mornings are stressful, but shucks. That's just part of it. Doing six out of ten runs a week for six months so your wife can settle into her new big job isn't a big deal at all.

BraOffPjsOn · 11/01/2025 09:32

YANBU - I think you’re getting a rough time here OP.
Starting school is exhausting for kids (teacher) and it would be nice for them to have one day going straight home (if doable!).

We share the drop offs and pick ups (but my times they have to go to before and after school club) DH took a job and dropped pay to be there for them more and so he could always be there for either dropping off or picking up which makes my life a million times easier and means they’re not in before or after school club everyday.

It would be nice if he could support you and let you have your career back after all you’ve done and try the shared school runs for 6 months but otherwise try with the extra £350 childcare. How much is the increase in pay for you?

Bobbybobbins · 11/01/2025 09:30

Just to add, going forwards, discussion definitely needed about sharing the load more for drop off/pick up and possibly if a DC is off ill?

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