To not want to hear any more about the Californian fires

as far as im aware they build theres mainly out of wood and what we call plaster board they call it sheet rock i believe.

Kind of like how I'm bored of hearing about Gaza.

There were massive wildfires in Australia a few years ago, and people definitely cared.
Koalas burned, wildlife and farm animals- Horses, the advice was to leave them without head collars and to let them protect themselves as best they could- It was shocking.

The American fires- looks like the buildings aren’t built of brick and stone - but look to be flimsy timber and board (?).

17th century
In Yemen, Jewish communities were forced to convert to Islam or be banished to the Mawza Exile.

1799
Napoleon briefly occupied Palestine and offered it as a homeland to Jews, but the plan was shelved after his defeat at Acre.

Other events in Jewish-Muslim history
1660: A Druze power struggle destroyed Safed and Tiberias.

1661: An Islamic edict overturned forced conversions, allowing Jews to practice Judaism openly.

1668: Sabbatai Zevi, a claimed messiah, was forced to convert to Islam in Turkey.

1839: Jews of Mashhad were forced to convert to Islam to end a pogrom.

1844: Jews were the largest population group in Jerusalem.

1896: Jews were the absolute majority in Jerusalem.

There's some basic facts incase you were genuinely under the impression that it was a new conflict in the 20th century.

I think it’s because there’s loads of film footage, drone filming etc so you can really see the effects of the fire. Not much footage coming out of Gaza / Syria etc etc

@Thoughtsonallsorts if I've understood the reporting correctly, the ferocity of the fire is massively exacerbated of the strength and behaviour of the wind, which is as it is due to climate change.

It doesn't matter how rich you are either - money doesn't make up for the loss of personal treasured items or memories
Celebrities might be rich but they're also human

Oh yeah, the jewish-muslim wars of the 1700s didn't happen 🙄
Look up the actual history not just a few select recent events.

Exactly! Fires in Hawaii were news here, ash clouds in Iceland were news here with very small populations comparatively. Both were horrible and I am not comparing but rather I am saying this is a big deal as Los Angeles is a big city and population affected runs in hundreds of thousands.

The ignorance to think everyone in California is rich and lives in a mansion is staggering.

It's not big news because it's white people, it's big news because it's celebs. It's how the news works, unfortunately. If it was happening, for example, in a rural part of Bulgaria (to white people), no-one would give a shit.

More coverage of it. Let's hope that unlike the Black Summer fires the LA fires start a major shift in policy to actually make a difference to climate disasters.

Do the people that shoehorn gaza into EVERY conversation and situation even realise what they are doing?

You are just making people exasperated and more likely to think along the sentiment of 'Fuck gaza'.

There are so many horrific things happening to people all over the world, if you genuinely think it's only really awful and a human right issue in one place at the moment then you are blind and biased.

If it is to the point that you can't even feel sympathy for human beings who aren't your currently chosen mascots for your virtue, then you are dangerously radicalised.

No of course not. Where did I say that? I didn’t bring Gaza into the conversation. I was responding to a poster who seemed to think that we should be more affected by the suffering of US citizens than that of Gazans, because we don’t share the same values as Gazans! I was simply asking what they meant by that. At no point did I indicate that I thought we should be playing ‘competitive suffering’. Please don’t misrepresent me.

Is it caused by climate change or is it the type of fire which can ignite anywhere there is dry woodland, spreading extensively& more rapidly depending on the density of the forest & surrounding scrubland. This along with lack of management & preparation for this type of event.

@Viviennemary This is a truely awful thread. And some of posts are frankly disgusting. you are making it out to be “this disaster is worse than yours so shut up and deal with it, we don’t care”. How hateful and heartless can you be? Next natural disaster in the UK you better not bang on about it, you know because the other disasters in the world are much more important than yours, and the uk is a western country with money so you can fix it.

I said white people were affected - which is why it has become a constant news story.

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In recent summers, there’s been extreme heatwaves in Southern Europe where the temperatures just get hotter year on year.

Every winter, there’s places in the UK that flood and yet no investment goes into protecting people from these predictable events.

Climate change means that we’ll get more and more of these kind of events and there should be plans.

It’s the underlying sentiment of some of what’s written on the thread. If people don’t want actual news they can look at Facebook, X, whatever hellsite they are on that gives them the ‘news’ that fuels their tiny world. And no, I’m not saying that the mainstream news agenda always has it right.

@NeedANapAgain so sorry to hear that. Being in the middle of something like this means it's hard to make concrete decisions about anything because nobody knows the big picture, which is stressful day to day. I hope you don't have to evacuate.

You're talking about Yemen? What about Gaza, you horrible person?

Same here, I feel a lot of sympathy for the ordinary folk and hope they get help from the government, especially with Cali being the richest state.

However, I’m finding it hard to muster any sympathy for people like actor James Woods who tweeted #KillThemAll re Gaza.

No I did not say LA is only white people 😄

I said white people were affected - which is why it has become a constant news story.

When half a million people were affected by floods in Yemen last year it was on the news for half an hour (ish)

I just read this, of course we have a west leaning media, we are the fucking west.
How utterly ridiculous to think it would be anything else.

Not a single person is saying that people in Gaza don't matter

Yes rich neighbourhoods were burned but also middle class and very ooor neighbourhoods too. Not everyone who lives in California is rich and Los Angeles has very poor areas and tent cities.