To not want to hear any more about the Californian fires

Actually, although a couple of smaller fires were started by arsonists, it was mostly lightning strikes that began the Black Summer fires.

You have to wonder if those who think it's all Hollywood mansions know anything of America beyond Orlando and their plastic pals

As so many have said there are plenty of ordinary folk caught up in this too, but it's true that with needing to fill 24/7 news the they always make a drama out of a crisis, even when it's not as serious as this; for example during Florida's hurricane Irma the idiots were saying the state would be "uninhabitable for 6 months"

There are much worse ones than that and I was near Fort Myers when hurricane Ian hit - the waterfront afterwards looked like Hiroshima - but at least when the power goes you're spared this kind of media nonsense

If you don't want to hear about something, creating a mumsnet thread about it isn't the best choice to make.

Wow. That is incredibly offensive! People who lost their homes in fires didn't steal any land! If anything, it is you Brits that stole it.

🙄 As an Australian I can tell you that is absolute bs. It had nothing remotely to do with "colonial settlers not respecting or understanding the land and listening to what the native population have been warning them about". It was arsonists that started it, and the rest was to do with wind direction spreading it.

Attacking a poster's name is vile, nasty and small-minded. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with her handle.
Who said we "don't" care about the rights of Palestinian women?

Cognitive dissonance at it’s worst! You’re wasting your breath with the brain washed who lack basic empathy

That's what you picked out?
You're both ludicrous!!! Do the rights of Palestinian women not matter?

Womens Rights is 'ludicrous', is it, @Naddd ?

It looks apocalyptic because it is. We are a rich country and a leading economy and collectively could do a huge amount more to mitigate climate change and, crucially, to adapt to it over here if you don't fancy contributing to a habitable planet. Good luck getting bored of your house flooding in the next few years if you live near a river. Good luck getting bored of future pandemics and tropical diseases migrating to a country near you. Covid got tedious almost immediately but that didn't mean we could switch it off, did it?

To Danja

I am talking about the average American not 1 individual family.

It’s not just uneducated people voting in Trump .
Musk, Kelsey Grammer, Kaitlyn Jenner , Dr. Phil, Drea De Matteo, Dennis Quid . Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos, Billy Ray Cyrus. Need I could go on ? I wonder do any of them live in the Hollywood Hills ?

American overconsumption is a fact. The US remains the highest per capita consumers ahead even of China.

National Geographic Greendex found that :

American consumers rank last of 17 countries surveyed in regard to sustainable behaviour and are among the least likely to feel guilty about the impact they have on the environment .

According to Science Watch “ we would need 4.2 Earths in order to sustain everyone living like an American”

The US ranks last on four out of five health outcome measures of the 10 comparable countries examined.
I could go on quoting statistics but I won’t , yes there are some healthy people in America but you need to get educated about your country .

And YOU can control what you read and watch too.
If you don't like what you're watching and reading, switch over or turn it off.

YABU

If you don’t want to read about it, then just don’t click on it.

Perhaps if you weren’t sat staring at your phone or the TV all day, then you wouldn’t keep seeing it.

I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope everything turns out okay for you

I despair of people sometimes.
This thread is a horrific example of how insular, selfish and lacking in empathy some are.
I am embarrassed for them.
To the other nationalities on here, please know that those posters do not represent the rest of us.

I agree there has been far too much coverage of it

Yeah I'm bored of it too. Rich people have their houses burned down

Not everyone affected is rich.
Do rich people deserve less sympathy when their homes burn down?
If so, why? Doesn't matter how much money you have when personal possessions are lost forever, including many sentimental items. Surely most people are capable of showing empathy to anyone in that situation?

Why Gaza as the only comparison?
What about disasters and atrocities all over the world?
What about the state of things over here in the UK?

I’m not British! Do you really think there’s no come back for genocidal maniacs??? That you can really live happily on stolen land with no respect to indigenous wisdom with no consequences? Climates change. Fact. They always have and always will. We may be accelerating the inevitable. But a lot of the issues regarding bush fires and forest fires come down to over building on sacred land and not tending to it….

I agree OP. It is a big story, but it shouldn't be the biggest story on the UK news night after night. There are far more relevant stories to people in the UK. What is happening in LA is broadly irrelevant to the vast majority of people here and only of passing interest.

Maybe the people who decide what will lead the nightly news think we'd rather watch that than be reminded that our economy is in the doldrums, that the highly paid leaders of our energy companies have failed to plan for entirely predictable cold winter weather and that our hospitals are creaking under the strain of the usual winter virus epidemic?

I am watching every minute of it
.I keep saying don't mention again celebs. It's irrelevant who they are they are people like you and me and have lost everything. Tell us about the ordinary folks who are impacted .
I have an interest in US politics and The pickle Gavin Newsom is in . The person who was spotted dining out in restaurants during LD when his citizens couldn't go anywhere. He is totally out of touch and it's his mess. Oh no.one is allowed to apportion blame
Yesterday he had a go at trump for politicising the tragedy ( where really Trump was asking hard questions of him ) and Today he is wrotimg to Trump to visit.who isint even President . I mean how are they going to rebuild?? Schools. Districts
Did anyone see Gary Hall junior ?Retired olympixc swimmer who saved his 🐕 dog and left his medals on c4 news. He is a swim teacher in the palisade. 15k acres are destroyed. It's terrible. It's a huge event and someone saying upthread all our insurance costs will go up
Omg that is frightening!!!

I obviously know that, but my point is, if you wish to live on (stolen) land that you are not indigenous to, you are silly and ignorant to not respect the traditions and rituals of those that are and have tended to the land for 10s of thousands of years... Where do you think the highest rates of skin cancer occur? 🤷🏽‍♀️

And to think building the way they have on other stolen lands (Ahem USA) wouldn’t have consequences either….

I have family within a mile of one of the main areas of fire. Their homes and livelihoods are at risk. Not high net worth people, just ordinary folks trying to get on with their lives like the majority of the owners of the more than 10,000 homes already lost. So, YABU - I want to keep hearing about it until I know the fires are out and everyone is safe.

There are people saying they don’t care/are bored of Gaza though. So bored of Gaza they make a comment about Gaza on a thread that’s not about Gaza 🙃

Most right thinking people will know that while it's sad that people have lost their homes, they haven't had their entire family wiped out in one go, they're not being starved , no medical care etc etc, I don't think it compares to the suffering these people are going through, just because we share no cultural ties with them do not mean we can't be disgusted by the situation does it?

It’s not just rich people Entire neighbourhoods have been burned down.
And it’s not like what’s happening in Gaza (or Syria or Ukraine) barely makes the news.