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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 10/01/2025 21:04

I saw something on tiktok today that said 'Carrie was to Big what Janice was to Chandler' 👀👀😬

I rewatch it all the time tbh, it's my fave show but now that Gen Z have found it, there are a lot of hot takes available online

What do people think of Carrie, now that 20 years have passed? Who's your fave? x

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Hohofortherobbers · 11/01/2025 12:52

I loved it back in the day. Loved the first film too, when she opens the blind on her 'honeymoon' and you see her tearstained swollen eyes Sad so heartbreaking .

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 11/01/2025 12:27

Lottapianos · 11/01/2025 10:07

'There had been nothing like it before. To me, it was a show about female friendship and did touch on serious themes like sexism in the workplace, infertility, menopause, cancer etc.'

Completely agree. I particularly love that Samantha was openly appalled by marriage and children, and completely unapologetic about it! It also showed some very relatable moments when the friends fall out / let each other down / make unreasonable demands of each other - it wasn't all happy happy gal pals. They were always the most interesting bits I reckon.

There are a million problems with the whole show of course. Horrible toxic relationships presented as 'love'. The gay men were portrayed as a cross between a pet and an accessory. Carrie is awful but I absolutely adore SJP and her outfits were (mostly) stunning so I can get over it! I still watch the show and still love it, overall

Agree with everything here

Anthony gets a much deserved bigger role in ajlt- although the storyline about how he's never bottomed got ripped apart by some gay men online

I love Samantha so much

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fashionqueen0123 · 11/01/2025 12:25

Lightblueblanky · 11/01/2025 00:06

Oh yes.

Very, very dated really.

Brilliant writing still. I couldn't be arsed to watch the new series apart from individual clips. Had it on my to-do list but life's too short.

I also find the fashion and attention seeking behaviour absolutely horrendous/cringe now.

Now that I've got more life experience, can see how awful Carrie was - or maybe that was the point?

Samantha seems to have been absolutely parodied in the (rubbish) second film. Probably the best true feminist there

Still would watch an episode or couple clips for old times sake!

Not my theory here but doing the rounds on X!

  1. Big is actually damaged goods in his own (super rich) social class due to his first divorce, sleeping around too much, hanging with models.

Bit like beautiful normal posh women not wanting Elon Musk - if you're already from a rich family and have a nice life, a weird rich man with problems isn't attractive.

  1. This is why he dates Carrie as she's so easy to impress/dismiss, he moves to France not only for work but to make a new start socially. Carrie has no power, she doesn't have a rich family to back her up.

All the rich A list women in New York don't want to marry Big or have a serious relationship with him. He really was obsessed with dating a successful actress in one episode - but she wasn't interested.

They might sleep with him but despite his wealth, he's seen as a bit odd/outsider/the fallback guy.

Carrie isn't in his social circles or anywhere near his social class so she doesn't hear how undesirable he is as she's not friends with his friends.

He doesn't tell his mother about her, and the only 'friend" of his she meets is a guy who owns a restaurant he visits often.

  1. Natasha is younger and they meet in France so Big had some space to get to her and charm her, and is now "back in" with the posh rich set. The new start worked.

But Bigs promiscuity crops up again with the affair.

  1. Big only considers marrying Carrie after Natasha divorces him as (with two divorces, Natasha's family bad-mouthing him in New York) his reputation is now completely gone.

No one of his class wants the drama he brings. He settles for her....even doesn't want the big public wedding with her (although it's her first and only wedding).

If he'd been marrying someone from a rich family he'd have agreed to a big wedding with as many prominent people there as possible. He's still essentially embarrassed by Carrie.

Even the SATC2 storyline with Big not wanting to go out with Carrie to premieres and parties ...still all about him not wanting to be seen as a couple in public life.

Very interesting! The only bit I don’t agree with is the last bit. I think hes just older and can’t be bothered!

whatsthpoint · 11/01/2025 12:23

SundayNightBluesAreHere · 10/01/2025 21:12

Not helpful in the slightest but I've never seen it, which I feel may be not the norm for a mid-40s woman.

Good input! Why did you answer this thread? To feel superior?

ruethewhirl · 11/01/2025 12:04

I liked it then and I like it now. It's just a lighthearted TV show that's of its time. Carrie was often selfish and immature and not the best role model, but I don't think the writers ever meant her to be perfect.

Ohnonotmeagain · 11/01/2025 11:59

GooseMoose2 · 11/01/2025 09:11

My favourite man was Harry.

Harry and Steve. Both nice normal men who were too good for all the drama and deserved better. Both women clearly thought they were too good for them.

now Sebastian Kidd in the Carrie Diaries 😍. Carrie should have stuck with him and been the ultimate NY power couple. I like to think of it that way as if satc never happened 😂. But her character in satc was always on the look out for something better which is why she never found it.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 11/01/2025 11:53

AliasGrace47 · 11/01/2025 02:22

Gen Zer here- watching w interest as I read an interview w Candace Bushnell in the New Yorker- I'd always though S & C sounded flimsy, but now am interested. Has anyone read 4 Blondes? She thought that was her best book.
I read the tradwifey Evie magazine out of curiosity & they recently claimed Carrie would've voted Trump! They don't support sex before marriage so I was quite amused at the endorsement

Defo watch it - I'll be honest, I wouldn't bother with the books at this point

😄 satc is everywhere, one of those shows that holds up so well, despite issues with some of the things that are said

I've not read 4 blondes

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GooseMoose2 · 11/01/2025 11:53

MandSCrisps · 11/01/2025 10:14

Pressed too soon. She was clearly impressed by Petrovskys money, all that showing the girls his big apartment stuff and he was never particularly nice I don’t think.
Anyway, she got the cash in the end.

Forgot all about the Russian 🤣This thread making me want to watch it all over again.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 11/01/2025 11:51

Adamante · 11/01/2025 02:51

Loved it then, love it now. It's The Thing to hate Carrie now but I always loved her. She was flawed, dramatic, self centred yes, like I imagine many young women might be who are jostling for social position in a city like NYC, but this blanket assertion that she was a terrible friend never rings true for me. She was the focal point of the show so of course you'd see her more often and at her very worst at times, for dramatic purposes. Miranda as she is now in AJLT, is a horrendous character and it's self inflicted. This is what the actress wanted! I think the producers and writers let her have her way because KC wasn't coming back & they knew they couldn't make it work with only two of the main four.

Agree with everything you said, as much as carrie is terrible, she's also great😄

Miranda is so awful in ajlt, so clear that she just didn't want to film with men 😬. Cynthia was obvs a lesbian but women can be tomboys without being gay!

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kate592 · 11/01/2025 10:22

BobbyBiscuits · 10/01/2025 22:21

Samantha was funny. But when I saw it again recently it just seemed really cringe. I guess it hasn't aged particularly well.

The thing was I just can't imagine anyone on earth actually genuinely identifying with any of the characters. They were like cartoons almost.

That whole thing of 'which one are you?' Erm, well I'm not an overblown depiction of a narcissist, I'm not an ageing slapper, I'm not a stuck up prude and I'm not a closet lesbian. And I don't have a seemingly endless stream of cash to spend on clothing and cocktails. Nor am I obsessed with talking about blow jobs in high end Manhattan nightclubs. 🤣

It was just trying so hard to be 'aspirational'.
You could tell that though the original author was female, this programme was definitely created and directed by men.

I agree with this. I found Samantha particularly desperate and cringy and never got the love for her - she seemed the shallowest of them all to me, completely superficial just a lot less little girly which perhaps made it less obvious. To me she was the narcissist because there was no depth, every man she met it was just about sex, every conversation she had, it came back to sex. I thought she was very one dimensional, she just had the cutting one liners but I didn't think she did women (as a whole) any favours with that character.

She seems to loathe men so why is so desperate for sex with them? I was always baffled by that one. I always thought she must have had a lot of childhood issues. Certainly very far from 'aspirational'.

The characters are all so awful and unrealistic but I think that's what draws people to it, You can watch their toxic car crash lives and be thankful that you have personality and depth and a life beyond shoes.

MandSCrisps · 11/01/2025 10:14

Pressed too soon. She was clearly impressed by Petrovskys money, all that showing the girls his big apartment stuff and he was never particularly nice I don’t think.
Anyway, she got the cash in the end.

MandSCrisps · 11/01/2025 10:12

Loved it when it was on, think it’s aged horribly like most things.
When I’ve rewatched it I hated the fact that Carrie was so money obsessed,

Tagyoureit · 11/01/2025 10:11

Carrie is an awful, selfish friend!!
And even all these years later in And Just Like That she's still an awful needy friend!

Lottapianos · 11/01/2025 10:07

'There had been nothing like it before. To me, it was a show about female friendship and did touch on serious themes like sexism in the workplace, infertility, menopause, cancer etc.'

Completely agree. I particularly love that Samantha was openly appalled by marriage and children, and completely unapologetic about it! It also showed some very relatable moments when the friends fall out / let each other down / make unreasonable demands of each other - it wasn't all happy happy gal pals. They were always the most interesting bits I reckon.

There are a million problems with the whole show of course. Horrible toxic relationships presented as 'love'. The gay men were portrayed as a cross between a pet and an accessory. Carrie is awful but I absolutely adore SJP and her outfits were (mostly) stunning so I can get over it! I still watch the show and still love it, overall

Appalonia · 11/01/2025 09:54

I'm a similar age to the actresses and as above poster said, you have to realise it was ground-breaking at the time. A show set around 4 WOMEN! And talking so openly about SEX! There had been nothing like it before. To me, it was a show about female friendship and did touch on serious themes like sexism in the workplace, infertility, menopause, cancer etc.

And Samantha had the best lines; " I'm dating a guy with the funkiest tasting spunk... " 😂

TheKeatingFive · 11/01/2025 09:43

I grew up in catholic Ireland, so it's hard to convey now, how ground breaking it was in terms of women talking about their sexual experiences. My mind was blown.

It was a lot of fun too and I enjoyed all the fashion and designer stuff (though some of that has dated horribly).

So regardless of where it ended up, it meant a lot at the time.

NewGreenDuck · 11/01/2025 09:40

I watched one episode and thought it was just puerile nonsense.

Didley · 11/01/2025 09:38

I've never watched a single episode

swingandtrampoline · 11/01/2025 09:33

When my dd was first born, she cried for the first 6 hours and I cried too as it reminded me of sex and the city Charlottes baby and how I would live my life with a baby that was constantly crying😂

I'm glad I watched it because many times in my life, I have taken a leaf out of satc and I recognise some of Carries erratic behaviour as I once in a toxic relationship.

GooseMoose2 · 11/01/2025 09:11

My favourite man was Harry.

Ginmonkeyagain · 11/01/2025 08:51

It came our while I was flatsharing in London in my early 20s. My flatmates and I used go "hate watch" it, it peals of laughter at how awful and self absorbed Carrie was and Samantha's improbable sexploits.

The idea it was some aspirational template for single womanhood was hilarious. It was so far removed from our single lives in London we may as well have been on the moon.

Polkadotbabushka · 11/01/2025 08:19

I loved it then and love it now. It is a bit naff at times especially the older ones where Carrie spoke to the camera… but I still love it. I find it comforting to watch! I can’t say I feel Janice and Carrie are comparable. Carrie wasn’t annoying like Janice! Big loved her he was just stupid!

I liked how all the women were different and someone could probably relate to each one! I love how Carrie (SJP) has never had surgery and aged gracefully!

localnotail · 11/01/2025 08:13

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 10/01/2025 23:26

😲😲😲 these are some of her best looks!!!

Well this kind of makes my point! If these are the best...

She always had this look of a toddler raiding her mum's wardrobe - random, hilarious, over the top - but somehow not eccentric enough to be cool or edgy. Her tiny skinny figure and unusual face does not help!

RawBloomers · 11/01/2025 06:48

It was very much of its time and I liked it (then) for the way it encapsulated youthful aspirations. It does feel dated now, but I think it was obvious it was going to even at the height of its popularity - it was all about encapsulating the zeitgeist not exploring more universal themes. It had some well written wit to it, which I always appreciate on TV. Much preferred it to Friends which I found a dull and annoying.

Hated Carrie from the get go, though. Always thought she was absolutely awful. She was a whiny, vacuous trope and I’ve never been able to see what others like in her.

gillefc82 · 11/01/2025 02:53

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 11/01/2025 02:34

This is the woman who voices all my thoughts, shes amazing and is on tiktok as well

I came across her channel very randomly a few weeks back but have now watched all of her SATC (and AJLT) related videos. I’m not sure if she has any professional qualifications in psychology etc or she is just very bright and insightful but she makes some excellent points and has a wicked sense of humour too. Her editing in some of the commentary, memes etc is a thing of beauty. Personal favourites - “I’m still a piece of garbage” and “Bye Ashy” in her final instalment of the Carrie & Big series when Carrie is scattering his ashes in Paris 😂

During the show’s original run I was 17-22, so whilst I watched a few episodes I certainly wasn’t a loyal viewer. I have watched them all since, plus the films and the two series of AJLT. I think the show is very much representative of its time, a bit like Friends which I loved. There’s a lot of things that writers just wouldn’t get away with now or would be seen as problematic.

My favourite was Samantha - completely authentic and unapologetically comfortable in her femininity and sexuality. A successful business woman and a true ride or die friend (diaphragm anyone?!) She was completely let down in the second film by the writers and just made into a caricature and the butt of the jokes.

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