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My mother is guilting me about being a working parent.

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Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:04

Hi,

This upset me today and I suppose I'm asking whether I'm being unreasonable for thinking that it's OK to work even though you don't absolutely, 100% HAVE to.

It was a difficult drop off at nursery today because my son is unwell (he's 14 months) and I work from my parents' house.

I mentioned that it's hard being a parent today where most households need a dual income just to sustain themselves. My mother told me that the main reason most households are dual income now is because they 'expect so much out of life, whereas in the 50s people were happy with what they had' (or words to this effect). Apart from the plethora of issues that the 1950s carried, which she agreed was true, I argued that most households could survive on one income fairly comfortably because housing wasn't as expensive as it is today, compared to the salaries that people make. Nowadays it's very hard to get a mortgage with one income, especially if you haven't had money gifted to you. And if you rent, that a crazy cost too. She argued it was the same as in the 1950s, except people didn't 'expect to go on holiday every year or go out for fancy dinners, and were happy with their little house that wasn't that great.' I told her that as a family, we would bloody love 'a little house that wasn't that great' - please can she show us one that we can afford on my husband's salary alone, like people did in the 50s?

She then told me that if we really wanted to, we could move into something like that and I could be a stay at home mum, but that we want to live in a 'fancy area' so don't. She told me we'd be able to afford a house on just my husband's salary if we lived outside London. Not true, but the main thing that irked me was the implication that I'm working my (genuinely low paid) job because we want to live a luxury lifestyle/won't 'lower ourselves' to a cheaper area. She even said that she'd have been prepared to move to the other side of the country if it meant she could stay at home with her children instead of going to work.

What also irks me is that I can see where she's coming from - in theory if we moved to Derbyshire or somewhere very far away we could potentially buy a house and I wouldn't technically have to work. It feels as if my mother is saying that it's not OK to not want to do that - as a parent you have to make every sacrifice in order to stay at home with your child. Even if it means giving up all your family's support around you/living in a place you're unfamiliar with. On a personal note, my husband is visually impaired and unable to drive, so moving out of a city is also very difficult for us transport-wise, but I feel like we shouldn't have to justify ourselves with this??

I know she'd just tell me that she was giving her opinion and I shouldn't be so sensitive about it, but am I being unreasonable to think that it's OK to work in order to not have to give up almost everything in your life? Or is the most important thing staying at home with your child?

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Inkyblue123 · 10/01/2025 13:01

Look you can just ignore other peoples opinion. But if it’s about mum- guilt , we all have it, you’re not alone. But I’d be looking g to find somewhere else to work, you don’t need that kind of negativity when you are just doing your best.

user2848502016 · 10/01/2025 13:00

Sorry but your mum was parenting in the 50s?! She can't have been.
My mum was only born late 50s and I'm 43.
Why isn't she comparing things to the 70s/80s/90s when lots of mums did need to work financially and buying a home was harder than in the 50s?
She does have some good points like I do think people have their priorities wrong sometimes these days.
But of course it's fine to work if that's what you want. Most parents find a balance that work for their family, and childcare isn't damaging children.

Yoto · 10/01/2025 13:00

MinorGodhead · 10/01/2025 10:07

Staying at home with your child in 2024 is (leaving aside illness, additional needs, circumstances that enforce it like being a trailing spouse temporarily without a work visa) a sign you’ve never found sufficiently interesting, rewarding and/or well-paid work. Tell her you feel sad for her lack of choice back in the day.

What an arrogant answer. I had a job that I loved, was good at, rewarded me personally and served the community at a high level - and it paid well. I gave it up to stay at home with my kids. No one coerced me, it was entirely my choice and I've been so grateful I've been able to have this time with them - I'd make the same decision again and again.

Some people's choices look different to others, it doesn't mean there's a lack of them, or either one is superior.

theleafandnotthetree · 10/01/2025 12:58

Speedweed · 10/01/2025 11:13

My mother is the same. It's just out of date thinking on her part - unable to grasp how crippling mortgage and rents now are as a percentage of anyone's income.

Interestingly, my grandmother (long dead, born in 1908), had a better grasp of it as in pre second ww times, rents were expensive (mortgages completely out of reach) and she always said to budget a third of income for rent. As a result, she always did something to earn extra money (obvs 'proper' jobs weren't available to her for other societal reasons).

It was really just that post war, pre-1980s generational sweet spot where mortgages and rents could be covered by one income which has given people of that time a view which is no longer accurate.

There was nothing in your post OP which sounded unreasonable or ill-considered.

Just continue nodding and smiling whenever she brings it up, and gently pointing out that there are a few other considerations, but don't get into proper discussion and trying to detail justifications for your actions as it leads nowhere.

That's so true, the aberration is that boomer generation. Outside of that very specific era in history, working class women - i.e most women throughout history - always worked and earned in a myriad of different ways. And upper class women employed staff to perform the role of stay at home mum.

Cookingtea · 10/01/2025 12:56

I haven't read all the responses but here are some counter arguments

  • the cost of living is less in the north but so are wages
  • Children benefit from socialising in childcare & having structure and independence from the main care giver (I appreciate this can be done without child care)
  • Working sets a good example to your DC in terms of work ethic
  • Working protects you if your family no long received your husbands wage
  • Working helps to keep your mind active which can help you stay mentally healthy and be happier so be a better parent when you are with them
  • having more money enable more opportunities for the DC (eg activities & holidays)

I am sure there are others and this post isn’t meant to say being a SAHM is bad but also it isn’t the only way.

Alittlebitwary · 10/01/2025 12:56

I didn't need to read past your first paragraph to know YANBU.

I have many many reasons that I want to work. Being home 24/7 with my children would be the wrong choice for the whole family, not just for me. Do I need to explain those reasons? Nope!

But I can see why your mum's opinion has upset you. But it's you life, not hers. Your priorities , not hers. Your family, not hers. So her opinion does not matter and DOES NOT mean in any way that you are wrong or a bad parent for having a different life to what she did / what she thinks you should have.

Please don't let it upset you. Agree to disagree, make light of all the things wrong with "her way" if you have to, to get her to butt out. "Haha oh it's a good job I don't think the way you did back then, or otherwise we'd never enjoy a meal out ever again, ho ho! Oh, the kids are playing up again and driving me nuts in the house all day, thank god I get to work and earn money so we can do nice things outside of the house, ahh there are so many things we can do now that they didn't have in the 50's, imagine how much harder it would have been back then!" Otherwise if you let it, this will eat you up!

MzHz · 10/01/2025 12:53

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:17

Thanks - I am actually going through therapy and have come a long way to genuinely not caring what she thinks as much, but on a deeper level I guess I found it hard when I wrote this to let go of the fact that she made some good points along the way despite her opinion being mean.

Even Hitler would have said the odd thing that made sense to someone.

Your mother would have got a bellow from me that WOULD have been audible on the fucking moon! "She argued it was the same as in the 1950s, except people didn't 'expect to go on holiday every year or go out for fancy dinners, and were happy with their little house that wasn't that great.'"

What a crock! even without ever going out Or holidays of ANY description, housing is ridiculously expensive and salaries are comparatively LESS than they were then in terms of percentages.

Put it this way, my starting salary in 1992 in London was about £15k. Starting salaries are barely more than that now in 2025, but look at housing - MY rent was £650 pcm for a 2 bed in Ealing, which I shared. £650 a month would not get you a ROOM in London now.

Tell your mother that it's none of her business, and go back to your home to work from there.You are allowing her WAY too much bandwidth

Tortielady · 10/01/2025 12:53

Like pps, I'd like to know how your DM has such confident opinions about the 1950s. My DM grew up then and she's in her 80s with grandchildren who are all adults. The world she remembers is so different to ours, you'd need to get a social historian to capture the detail, but one thing that stands out is the lower cost of living compared to ours in 2025. Things that used to cost next to nothing (eg, water rates) now make up major bills in their own right. . .and that's before you look at really big expenses like housing.

As for your DMs assertion about moving across the country, smile, nod and ignore. Beautiful rural areas (eg Derbyshire) are among the most expensive for the cost of living and often the least well-served with public transport and other services. De-industrialised regions, eg Teesside, have plentiful cheap housing and few jobs. Anywhere where you aren't happy and are missing family and friends is going to put you on a back-foot when it comes to daily stresses like child-raising. And what would your DM actually say if you upped sticks and took off for Matlock or Middlesbrough, where you'd hardly see her?

Manxexile · 10/01/2025 12:53

How on earth can a grandmother with a 14 month old grandson know what adult life in the 1950s was like?

I'm 67 and my earliest recollections of adult life and responsibilities are from the late 1970s and early 1980s.

For anybody to have first hand knowledge of adult life in the 1950s they'd now have to be in their 80s at the very least. Seems a bit old to have a 14 month old grandchild...

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 12:52

Mnetcurious · 10/01/2025 10:58

  1. why are you sending an unwell child to nursery? Hardly fair on your child/other children when they then catch the bug, and their parents.
  2. you and your mum both have valid points about people expecting more from life now (holidays, eating out etc)/cost of housing today often requiring dual incomes
  3. Of course it’s ok to work when you don’t absolutely have to - you may want to feel fulfilled in a job or climb the career ladder/not be just mum all day every day/not be financially reliant now and in the future on your husband/afford to live in the area you want or have the lifestyle you want. Of course all of these choices have consequences of one kind or another.

Thanks for your comment :)

Just to clarify because a couple of people have asked me why I've sent my son in unwell to nursery - he's teething, he has three coming through at once. I wish I'd just said that in the first place. He's not caught an illness, he's just miserable and teethes for weeks on end (has done since three months old). Unfortunately I have only a few days holiday left from extending my maternity leave and if I took a day off every time he was teething I'd be out of a job anyway!

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Flatulence · 10/01/2025 12:52

How does she know what parental finances were like in the 50s?
Because my nan had two child in the 50s (and one in the 40s and one in the 60s) she'd be 106 if she was still alive.

atesomanybananas · 10/01/2025 12:47

MinorGodhead · 10/01/2025 10:07

Staying at home with your child in 2024 is (leaving aside illness, additional needs, circumstances that enforce it like being a trailing spouse temporarily without a work visa) a sign you’ve never found sufficiently interesting, rewarding and/or well-paid work. Tell her you feel sad for her lack of choice back in the day.

Not always, and certainly not in my case or for several of my friends.

Notsuchafattynow · 10/01/2025 12:47

Well, by her reasoning she's an equally shite grandmother for not looking after your DC and making you send them to nursery?

Or did that not happen in the 50's either?

celerymarmite · 10/01/2025 12:46

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BabyShock879 · 10/01/2025 12:42

It's a topic that brings up very strong emotions, and is typically connected to one's own experience.

If she was a SAHM, she might take it as a personal criticism that you don't think that's the best way of doing things.

I'm in the opposite situation where my mum prioritised her career, worked 6 days a week, all hours of the day, while I was cared by a combination of relatives, friends and paid childcare. She doesn't understand why I am not doing the same.

godmum56 · 10/01/2025 12:41

I think that either choice is a choice for the parents ALONE and she should butt out.

Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 12:40

Thistledowner · 10/01/2025 11:44

I'm so glad you're already in therapy, speaking from experience it is very helpful when one has a 'tricky' mother....!!

You are giving your son a wonderful gift in showing him how a mother can be both a wonderful parent and also have her own fulfilled, meaningful, empowered life.

Gabor Mate says the greatest thing we can do for our child, is to be happy in ourselves. Earning money and having a professional profile gives you choices that SAHM's tend to forfit.

I'm proud of you!

Thank you! <3

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hettie · 10/01/2025 12:40

Commiserations on having a mother who doesn't value you for you, whose love is a little bit conditional on you being the version of you that she wants/needs. Validating her choices by criticising yours is just a bit shit.
She's also sadly deluded about the salary thing for vast chunks of the country

Find out where you can afford to buy or rent in Great Britain

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/ng-interactive/2023/jun/12/interactive-tool-that-shows-where-you-can-afford-to-buy-or-rent-home-great-britain

Zanatdy · 10/01/2025 12:39

That was what she wanted to do, you don’t, and that’s ok

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/01/2025 12:39

housethatbuiltme · 10/01/2025 10:46

Raising my children IS significant and rewarding work... not everyone is money driven. I feel sorry for those brainwashed enough to only find 'value' to their life through being a worker bee.

I worked in a vets, its worthwhile important work but I would rather spend the day squeezing my kids than dogs anal glands.

Most people (even those who don't hate their jobs) if they didn't have to work and could persue their actual interests and joys (like travel, arts, social pursuits or family time etc...) would not think 'gee, I fancy getting up at 6am in this shitty cold weather and driving in rush hour traffic to spend my whole day doing stuff for strangers while missing out on my own loved ones'.

We have a mental health crisis in this country and a lot of it is due to people having no time for self care due to working insane times just to survive. Lets not try to glamourize what is a requirement to most as a bloody luxury they should be thankful for.

"Money driven"?

The only people who have the option to just stay home with their kids are the ones who have the opportunity and are happy to let someone else pay for everything. Usually a man.

I don't imagine you are criticising your husband for being "money driven" because he has a job, so please don't criticise other women for having a job.

dynamiccactus · 10/01/2025 12:38

Tubetrain · 10/01/2025 12:31

And in the 1950s women often had no agency or control over their life, marital rape was legal, divorce was difficult to access, and many women were unhappy. Is that what she wants for her daughter?

It does make you wonder. But I think there are a lot of people out there who don't want their offspring to have it better than they did. MIL was a bit like that. But I also think she was frustrated with the hand life had dealt her and could probably see that if she had been 30 years younger life would have been much easier.

Capybara75 · 10/01/2025 12:38

Swanleek · 10/01/2025 10:16

Honestly their generation sometimes (not ALL before mumsnet comes for me) genuinely has no idea.
im sorry OP, maybe shes sort of projecting her own issues on you, like perhaps she’s actually jealous of your life?

This. She’s envious.

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Dery · 10/01/2025 12:38

Not RTFT but absolutely this:

“WannabeMathematician · Today 10:18

I like working. I also hate the idea that I was told I could be anything but now I have kid all I should want is to be a SAHM. I’m not cut out for it. Just like it stupid to tell every little girl to want to be a doctor it’s stupid to think every woman with children should be at home with them.”

Actually, I’m well into middle age and my mum worked in paid employment as did my friends’ mothers and as did both my grandmothers. And why is it you who should stay home? Why not your DH?