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My mother is guilting me about being a working parent.

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Sevendayhigher · 10/01/2025 10:04

Hi,

This upset me today and I suppose I'm asking whether I'm being unreasonable for thinking that it's OK to work even though you don't absolutely, 100% HAVE to.

It was a difficult drop off at nursery today because my son is unwell (he's 14 months) and I work from my parents' house.

I mentioned that it's hard being a parent today where most households need a dual income just to sustain themselves. My mother told me that the main reason most households are dual income now is because they 'expect so much out of life, whereas in the 50s people were happy with what they had' (or words to this effect). Apart from the plethora of issues that the 1950s carried, which she agreed was true, I argued that most households could survive on one income fairly comfortably because housing wasn't as expensive as it is today, compared to the salaries that people make. Nowadays it's very hard to get a mortgage with one income, especially if you haven't had money gifted to you. And if you rent, that a crazy cost too. She argued it was the same as in the 1950s, except people didn't 'expect to go on holiday every year or go out for fancy dinners, and were happy with their little house that wasn't that great.' I told her that as a family, we would bloody love 'a little house that wasn't that great' - please can she show us one that we can afford on my husband's salary alone, like people did in the 50s?

She then told me that if we really wanted to, we could move into something like that and I could be a stay at home mum, but that we want to live in a 'fancy area' so don't. She told me we'd be able to afford a house on just my husband's salary if we lived outside London. Not true, but the main thing that irked me was the implication that I'm working my (genuinely low paid) job because we want to live a luxury lifestyle/won't 'lower ourselves' to a cheaper area. She even said that she'd have been prepared to move to the other side of the country if it meant she could stay at home with her children instead of going to work.

What also irks me is that I can see where she's coming from - in theory if we moved to Derbyshire or somewhere very far away we could potentially buy a house and I wouldn't technically have to work. It feels as if my mother is saying that it's not OK to not want to do that - as a parent you have to make every sacrifice in order to stay at home with your child. Even if it means giving up all your family's support around you/living in a place you're unfamiliar with. On a personal note, my husband is visually impaired and unable to drive, so moving out of a city is also very difficult for us transport-wise, but I feel like we shouldn't have to justify ourselves with this??

I know she'd just tell me that she was giving her opinion and I shouldn't be so sensitive about it, but am I being unreasonable to think that it's OK to work in order to not have to give up almost everything in your life? Or is the most important thing staying at home with your child?

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queenofthemay · 10/01/2025 11:00

I’m guessing that she really isn’t very intelligent, so try to take no notice of her nonsense.

Swanleek · 10/01/2025 11:00

oakleaffy · 10/01/2025 10:59

@Sevendayhigher We left renting In Richmond ( we lived on Richmond Hill) for a city 100 miles away to be able to afford a house-

But it was hard emotionally leaving friends and family behind.

I’m visiting mum now and Richmond is lovely , right by the park- but I couldn’t afford a house here, only a flat- and my son ( now adult)doesn’t live here, either!

There are lots of women here who don’t work ( rich husbands) and they have Nannies despite not working.

House prices in relation to earnings are massive now.

Your mum if she bought in London in 1950’s would probably have paid very little.
( Depending on area)
Almost certainly under £10,000 ( Ten thousand) .

Wish I could buy. House in Richmond for £10k hahaha! The dream 😭😂

oakleaffy · 10/01/2025 10:59

@Sevendayhigher We left renting In Richmond ( we lived on Richmond Hill) for a city 100 miles away to be able to afford a house-

But it was hard emotionally leaving friends and family behind.

I’m visiting mum now and Richmond is lovely , right by the park- but I couldn’t afford a house here, only a flat- and my son ( now adult)doesn’t live here, either!

There are lots of women here who don’t work ( rich husbands) and they have Nannies despite not working.

House prices in relation to earnings are massive now.

Your mum if she bought in London in 1950’s would probably have paid very little.
( Depending on area)
Almost certainly under £10,000 ( Ten thousand) .

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 10/01/2025 10:59

I just wanted to say that no one in life can guilt-trip you like your own mother!
She may have a point about women being very preoccupied with jobs these days - but the same could be said about men. I like to think that technology will eventually free up the time of both men and women so that they can spend more quality time in the family unit whilst still doing work that is rewarding and meaningful rather than a repetitive grind involving stressful commutes and long hours.

Mnetcurious · 10/01/2025 10:58
  1. why are you sending an unwell child to nursery? Hardly fair on your child/other children when they then catch the bug, and their parents.
  2. you and your mum both have valid points about people expecting more from life now (holidays, eating out etc)/cost of housing today often requiring dual incomes
  3. Of course it’s ok to work when you don’t absolutely have to - you may want to feel fulfilled in a job or climb the career ladder/not be just mum all day every day/not be financially reliant now and in the future on your husband/afford to live in the area you want or have the lifestyle you want. Of course all of these choices have consequences of one kind or another.
AttachmentFTW · 10/01/2025 10:58

MinorGodhead · 10/01/2025 10:07

Staying at home with your child in 2024 is (leaving aside illness, additional needs, circumstances that enforce it like being a trailing spouse temporarily without a work visa) a sign you’ve never found sufficiently interesting, rewarding and/or well-paid work. Tell her you feel sad for her lack of choice back in the day.

This is an extremely patronising and, dare I say it, outdated attitude towards the importance and value of parenting/care giving. I have a rewarding and interesting career that I worked hard for and am well remunerated for. I still absolutely loved taking care of my little one when on mat leave and I'm excited to do it again soon. I went back to work part time because as the OP says, it is extremely hard to afford a family on one income.

The idea that stay at home parenting is only for dull, boring or low paid people is extremely offensive. It's also not a very feminist attitude as most people who do stay at home parenting are women. I know it's not for everyone but no need to look down on people who do.

stayathomer · 10/01/2025 10:56

You will never ever ever ever be able to argue with someone who has strong ideas about either staying at home or going to work. Don’t even bother trying (I know it’s so hard!!!!!! and you’re both right, rent col etc is more expensive but also people nowadays do expect more and have more luxuries)

Alalalala · 10/01/2025 10:56

Work from your own home.

Roll your eyes at your mum, “well, things are very different now but ok…” And change the subject.

Bluebellyhedge · 10/01/2025 10:55

She'd criticise whatever you do.
You'll never please her, so stay away and please yourself instead.

foreverbasil · 10/01/2025 10:53

I'd query her thinking. Women who were SAHM in the 1950s are in their 90s now. So that seems an odd reference point. It was very difficult for women to work then. They were expected to resign on marriage. In the sixties it was more open and many women were offered training as there were shortages of teachers etc. Many families lived as extended family with horrible overcrowding in the 50s. Once women started working there were more opportunities to earn enough as a household to get a mortgage. Then prices shot up!

Women who are grandmas now had families in the 80s and 90s when most mums worked. That was the experience of me and people I know anyway

Bluebellyhedge · 10/01/2025 10:50

Its the long term she's not thinking about. Yes its lovely to stay at home in the first few years if you can and you want to but soon they're at school and what kind of role model are you if you just stay at home with no-one to look after. You've lost your career in some fields and you certainly don't have the flexibility that long term employers provide (i worked just school hours for the early primary years for example).

Then when dc need/ want financial help through university or you want to take them on Holiday or they want to do an expensive a hobby or they have medical needs that are expensive you can't afford it as you haven't worked .

She's just projecting her own shortcomings onto you. Smile and ignore and don't work from her house.

trivialMorning · 10/01/2025 10:49

You make the decisions for you and your family not her - so find a way to convey that to her.

Honestly though SHAM or working - I've literally had same female relatives pick fights with both - when I pointed this out to MIL her response was I should look after the kids in day and work all night to "contribute" - apparently sleep wasn't a thing I needed. Even P/T other's find fault - weekends and evening to.

You do what best for you and your kids and ignore everyone else - and make changes if and when needed.

KerstinBlest · 10/01/2025 10:48

Find an office space to work from. Leave your mother alone so she can concentrate on reading the Daily Mail.

housethatbuiltme · 10/01/2025 10:46

MinorGodhead · 10/01/2025 10:07

Staying at home with your child in 2024 is (leaving aside illness, additional needs, circumstances that enforce it like being a trailing spouse temporarily without a work visa) a sign you’ve never found sufficiently interesting, rewarding and/or well-paid work. Tell her you feel sad for her lack of choice back in the day.

Raising my children IS significant and rewarding work... not everyone is money driven. I feel sorry for those brainwashed enough to only find 'value' to their life through being a worker bee.

I worked in a vets, its worthwhile important work but I would rather spend the day squeezing my kids than dogs anal glands.

Most people (even those who don't hate their jobs) if they didn't have to work and could persue their actual interests and joys (like travel, arts, social pursuits or family time etc...) would not think 'gee, I fancy getting up at 6am in this shitty cold weather and driving in rush hour traffic to spend my whole day doing stuff for strangers while missing out on my own loved ones'.

We have a mental health crisis in this country and a lot of it is due to people having no time for self care due to working insane times just to survive. Lets not try to glamourize what is a requirement to most as a bloody luxury they should be thankful for.

PurpleKate · 10/01/2025 10:42

I worked when my eldest was a baby and that was 40 years ago and really quite uncommon. Yes 40 years ago.
Things have massively changed since then and it's been quite normal for mothers to work for a long time now. Don't let anyone shame you for doing what's best for your family.

Basketballhoop · 10/01/2025 10:42

How old is she? I am guessing a few years older than me, so late 50s/early 60s? Plenty young enough that she could have had a career if she wanted one. Sounds to me like she is justifying her own life choices to herself by criticising yours.

You know if you moved to Derbyshire or wherever, she would also criticise that? For taking her grandchild away, for removing your family support. Whatever. People who want to want to criticise others life decisions will always find a way to do it.

In my father's eyes, I was a failure. I did the wrong degree (I am a vet) at the wrong university (I didn't go to Cambridge). I married the wrong man (an army officer). I started a new job just before getting married ('married women don't work'), then compounded it by returning to work after maternity leave. The list goes on. He never understood why I ended up virtually NC with him.

Swanleek · 10/01/2025 10:41

CherryDrops89 · 10/01/2025 10:40

What a snotty comment

Try not to give them the attention they crave, these comments either come from utter jealousy they aren’t a SAHP or a weird self loathing that they’re in that position without choice. Very odd.

CherryDrops89 · 10/01/2025 10:40

MinorGodhead · 10/01/2025 10:07

Staying at home with your child in 2024 is (leaving aside illness, additional needs, circumstances that enforce it like being a trailing spouse temporarily without a work visa) a sign you’ve never found sufficiently interesting, rewarding and/or well-paid work. Tell her you feel sad for her lack of choice back in the day.

What a snotty comment

ThejoyofNC · 10/01/2025 10:40

MinorGodhead · 10/01/2025 10:07

Staying at home with your child in 2024 is (leaving aside illness, additional needs, circumstances that enforce it like being a trailing spouse temporarily without a work visa) a sign you’ve never found sufficiently interesting, rewarding and/or well-paid work. Tell her you feel sad for her lack of choice back in the day.

Wow, that's a load of shit. Plenty of people can and do aspire to be SAHM.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/01/2025 10:40

klopteaklrd · 10/01/2025 10:34

It's a shame you don't have a daughter, OP, because if you did, you could say, "What message would that be sending to Olivia?

Seeing mothers work is beneficial to sons and daughters, there have been studies on it, it raises more independent sons and they are more likely to grow up to be equal partners. The OP can still say that regarding her son.

She can, but her mother might not get the point so much. She would probably be very happy for her grandson to grow up and have a good job and an obedient little wife who stays at home and makes babies.

But I think with a little girl it's quite effective to point to all the things you're doing to give her the best opportunities in life and then say, "What is the point in any of this if she's just going to stay at home after the age of 30?"

MyLoyalEagle · 10/01/2025 10:39

sending a big hold hand

PheasantPluckers · 10/01/2025 10:38

I think she makes a few good points. She is right, back in the day people didn't have luxuries like we have now. No holidays, 1 present at Christmas, no Sky TV etc ... without having a window into your expenses I can't judge that. I could 100% see where she'd be coming from if you continuously moaned about having no money - but went away twice a year to Barbados and drove a £500pcm car on finance. That doesn't sound like the case though.

People didn't divorce as much, either, then!

Sorry, OP I'm not suggesting you're going to get divorced but relationships breaking down are far more common these days and it's something all women should take into consideration and make their own risk analysis on before they make themselves financially reliant on a man.

Bbqnights · 10/01/2025 10:36

I could afford to stay at home with my kids, just about. But, money aside, I just don't want to. Any more than my DH would want to. I'm grateful to live at a time when I have choices. My MIL has similar views to your DM, but I look at ho2 small her world is and feel completely validated in my choices.

klopteaklrd · 10/01/2025 10:34

It's a shame you don't have a daughter, OP, because if you did, you could say, "What message would that be sending to Olivia?

Seeing mothers work is beneficial to sons and daughters, there have been studies on it, it raises more independent sons and they are more likely to grow up to be equal partners. The OP can still say that regarding her son.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/01/2025 10:32

It's a shame you don't have a daughter, OP, because if you did, you could say, "What message would that be sending to Olivia? That it doesn't matter whether she works hard at school, does her homework, gets good grades, goes to university, excels at sport or music or what have you, because as soon as she has children her role in life is to stay at home and spend 100% of her time being a mother? And it's normal to be 100% financially dependent on a man and at risk of being abused because you don't have your own money and can't afford to leave? And it's fine for your whole family to be at risk of destitution if the one wage earner suddenly loses their job?"