To resent the cognitive dissonance that exists around climate change

Maybe, maybe not. I don't care and I'm not willing to have a terrible life so that people in 70 years can have a 2 degree increase instead of 3 (I also think only a mug in the UK would take responsibility when there are billions of people in India and China who won't)

What’s your point? LA is one of the most densely populated cities in the world and will continue to be. They will build it back and manage the risk.

I think only a mug in the UK would blame an Indian or Chinese person for buying one car per family per lifetime when British and American peoppe have seversl cars per family.

There was plenty we did which caused this. We are clearly capable of changing our climate through our activities. It will be the end of the world (as we know it) because many places will become uninhabitable, agriculture will no longer be viable in many parts of the world, and the risks posed by natural disasters will eliminate stability. Stability and a stable, temperate climate is what brings economic success. Think about which parts of the world were able to enjoy generally reliable harvests for centuries, which parts of the world were able to industrialise first, and which parts thereby became the richest ? The clue is places with a stable, reliable, predictable climate with a low risk of natural disasters.

We are also capable of fixing it. Climate action isn’t a hair shirt, it’s mainly about stopping the use of fossil fuels. Anything we can do to move off them is a step in the right direction.

How are the rich and the famous in Southern California getting on at the moment?

Insurers are the world's experts in assessing risk, why do you think that they are withdrawing coverage from places like California or Florida?

Us, India and china emit so much because of their size

The thing that no one is ever able to answer is that if there is really a so-called climate emergency, why do the US, China, India and others continue to emit so much. Why do celebrities and activists who lecture the rest of us, live their lives as there is no emergency.

Clearly, they are not stupid, if there is going to be some climate related catastrophe, then they will be impacted as much as everyone else. It’s like Nuclear weapons, everyone knows that they are assured mutual destruction, so every country avoids first strike as much as possible. While witn carbon emissions, the rich and the powerful live their lives and powerful countries run themselves normally.

There is only one explanation. There is no climate emergency. The gullible have fallen for that line and are being taken for a ride.

Do as they do, not as they say.

First, let's have the celebrities and politicians stop using their private jets and helicopters. They are the ones with money, power and influence; if they care about this, they need to lead by example. It's ironic that some of them use private jets to attend their climate change "conferences".

We also need to have a discussion about the media constantly frightening the pants off the public to sell newspapers; and the government doing likewise to make the public compliant. Because of all this, it is now so hard to tell what is truth and what is lies.

Then, we can talk about sacrifices made by ordinary people in the name of "climate change". Some of us remember when the scary buzzword of the day was "global warming", or even further back "the greenhouse effect" and "the hole in the ozone layer".

Well, you ve just agreed with what i ve said BUT as far as i can, there are no moves to address driving standards, nothing on changing sentencing etc.

20mph zones and pedestrianisations are all very well BUT the cyclist still has to get there and what about everywhere else???

Protected cycle lanes just get used by walkers etc who then shout at cyclists for going too fast....... plus the country has no money... though there seems to be always enough to waste.

Another issue is the road surface, driving in Devon yesterday to attend a XC running race... some sections of road would have a cyclist over the bars or smash up your wheels & roads are getting worse, not better.

The car, in the eyes of the justice system, the govt and the public is King, until that changes, nothing will.

Instead we get nonsense about Heat Pumps and EPCs of C... i thought the last lot were useless, this lot are just as useless.

Perhaps AI will save us ?

And the kitchen filters? Just seen a load of units and washing machine being carried on a bike Maybe in Vietnam

Says he's doing it for 2 months and he lives in a city. Maybe e not so easy if places 20 miles apart in rural areas.

Just matching your energy hinny.

I've always said the same. We, as a species are distructive. We breed, consume resources, rinse and repeat. We won't be allowed to do that forever. None of us are of any importance in the grand scheme of things

When a population of parasites overwhelms its host, the host takes care of it. It's not that hard to understand.

Moving on from the bless you response as a bit silly

That view of being team planet survival instinct crops up on all these threads, but in reality if the planet were to take out a house I don’t think it would be offered up by same posters

You are reacting quite strongly in that last line. I can’t say I care that you do or don’t tbf

Yes survival instinct, I’d say most humans have it even those who type they want to be wiped out alongside their dc on these threads.

Not many people have experienced survival instinct now you've touched on it. It's very strong and overrides pretty much everything. I've never experienced it.

I wonder what the planets survival instinct is like.

Dude for the last time, I don't give a shit if you find anything I'm saying is odd.

I haven’t related this to my family or taken it personally I’ve said I find statements like yours about hoping for destruction as odd

Especially since as a parent it would include your family

You’ve now said you would brick it as you’re only human. That was my point, typing stuff like I hope we get wiped out isn’t typical for human behaviour it’s internet bumpf on all these threads. Self survival is more typical.

I do hope the planet acts in time to save itself yes. The only way the planet will survive is if the human race is removed.

I'm not sure why it's offended you so much. Im not wishing your family dead. Don't take shit so personally and see the bugger picture.

First line, so what.

Second contradicts your hope that it will happen.

I don't care about what you're saying.

If course I'd be bricking it, I'm a human. That's an odd thing to say.

So you admit you have little argument? fine

‘I think this I hope we all get wiped out including my dc’ you see on these threads is just internet bumpf

Push came to shove and they’d be bricking it as much as any

Whilst i agree a terminal or huge fall in the worlds population would assist the planet, i don't believe that would automatically ensure its existence.

Those things could go hand in glove with wars, inc Nuclear & then what would be left after the likely "Nuclear Winter" and huge damage to the ozone layer.

Whilst i agree a terminal or huge fall in the worlds population would assist the planet, i don't believe that would automatically ensure its existence.

Those things could go hand in glove with wars, inc Nuclear & then what would be left after the likely "Nuclear Winter" and huge damage to the ozone layer.

Heh you got it.