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People who think mat leave is a holiday

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makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 08:47

I went to a work dinner just before Christmas even though I'm on mat leave. A long time colleague was leaving and invited me along. Was great to catch up and see people.

One senior man (without kids) walked up to me at the bar and said 'are you living the dream right now?' Which I thought was an odd comment. Motherhood is beautiful but with 2 children, one being a 3 month old at the time at home, I'm not sure I'd describe it as 'living the dream'. Beautiful chaos perhaps?! :)

When it came to go home I said 'oh my it's getting late' and the same man said across someone 'well you don't have to work tomorrow'. That person who overheard said 'she has 2 kids'. I also said 'my working day starts in 2 hours'. Not that I need to justify myself but my 3 month old was going through the 4 month sleep regression, hadn't slept for longer than 3 hour stings over night for 2 weeks and was up all the night before and that night, with my 3 year old waking at 5.30am as usual.

I'm not living the dream or not working. I'm lucky to be a mum and be paid on maternity leave as many other countries don't afford this but AIBU to still be annoyed about it several weeks later?

I hope one day he has a reflux baby like mine and realises how hard it is. You try to solve it with infant gaviscon and that leads to constipation, try to counteract it with lactulose but forever worry you're getting the dose wrong, try omperazole only to be told it will decimate your LO gut health and make them more ill down the line, the mental load of it on no sleep is plenty of work!

Not the same as being in the office for 8.30, showered, dressed and contributing all day to a workshop which he had but I am not living the dream on a beach somewhere either!

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BabyShock879 · 12/01/2025 18:48

makingdecisionsforme · 12/01/2025 18:13

You seem to take something in context completely out of context. I said I've not had more than a 4 hour stretch since that night (mid December) but I've said it's pretty much every hour of every night I'm up normally. Said in context, I was referring to those without children working hard during the week but also having the luxury to sleep off Thursday nights hangover during the weekend. Parents don't get to catch up in that sense. That's all.

How has this turned into a competition on who has it the hardest? God forbid a woman is a having a hard time with sleep deprivation, some saint here woke up every hour AND went to work. OP should be grateful for an occasional 4 hour sleep. LOL. Sure.

YANBU OP but just shake it off. There's plenty more insensitive comments coming your way. It's hard, I never thought stuff like this would get to me too but they do. You gotta move on though, for your own sanity.

makingdecisionsforme · 12/01/2025 18:13

Hoplolly · 11/01/2025 18:35

Being a mum I still haven't had the luxury of most than a 4 hour stretch of sleep since that night. No annual leave or weekends.

Four hours? That's a luxury! My DS woke every 1-2 hours until he was 2.5 years old. I went back to full time work at 7 months old. I'd have given my left tit for a four hour stretch in the first four years of his life!

You need to stop referring to it as a job OP, you sound really resentful.

You seem to take something in context completely out of context. I said I've not had more than a 4 hour stretch since that night (mid December) but I've said it's pretty much every hour of every night I'm up normally. Said in context, I was referring to those without children working hard during the week but also having the luxury to sleep off Thursday nights hangover during the weekend. Parents don't get to catch up in that sense. That's all.

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FeelinTwentySixPointTwo · 12/01/2025 17:51

Being a mum I still haven't had the luxury of most than a 4 hour stretch of sleep since that night

Well yes... but when you're at home during the day that's much more doable.

Compared to when you're back at work; your baby isn't sleeping plus you have to function in the workplace. I couldn't afford the luxury of long maternity leaves (no maternity pay other than SMP) so had to go back to work while we were still in the depths of feeding through the night. It was not at all easy.

Hoplolly · 11/01/2025 18:35

Being a mum I still haven't had the luxury of most than a 4 hour stretch of sleep since that night. No annual leave or weekends.

Four hours? That's a luxury! My DS woke every 1-2 hours until he was 2.5 years old. I went back to full time work at 7 months old. I'd have given my left tit for a four hour stretch in the first four years of his life!

You need to stop referring to it as a job OP, you sound really resentful.

Coffeeandcoffee · 11/01/2025 10:22

I can see why his comments stung, OP, but I think you’re best to try and let it go! No one really has an insight into anyone else’s circumstances. Unless he’s generally a horrible person, I’d presume he was being clueless and clumsy rather than malicious.

TBH, perhaps I’d find it easier to shake as I’m lucky to count myself in the camp who have found periods of mat leave to be a dream! It suits me well and I genuinely find it so much more easier and more fun than working, even though I love my job. Getting paid to hang about with a couple of tiny pals all day and do whatever we fancied!

Juggling children whilst being back at work is a whole different ballgame and I often feel some judgement from colleagues who don’t have children, but as time goes by I try and take it less personally. I know that they aren’t trying to hurt me, and I know that they probably have stuff going on in their lives that I can’t relate to!

Purpleandredandyellow · 11/01/2025 09:58

makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 09:02

How were you living the dream? It's beautiful but it's still a job I have to show up to date and night. I don't have family to help.

It's been playing on my mind and the reason it's upset me this week is I've been invited out for drinks in February for another colleague who is leaving and now I'm sure I won't go. I'd love to go as I've been at the company many years and have good friends there.

Yet I'm too nervous to show up just for the 'work fun' when I'm not there day to day working with them and worried what people might think. I did have my children quite close together (was back a year) and wonder if this man thinks I'm ok mat leave longer than I'm at work. He joined after my first 5 years without any mat leave!

I felt it was living the dream as it was so much less stressful than my job. I much preferred living with the chaos / tiredness than being in work - unfortunately I had to go back!

finalstrawb · 10/01/2025 20:43

Personally, mat leave was hell on earth for me. Important for my DC, but I was gagging to go back to work. I just felt like a machine with no autonomy functioning on no sleep with a constantly screaming baby. Now I'm back at work and she's enjoying her little life, I enjoy mine and we love our time together. Give me the work/childcare juggle over mat leave any day. I felt like I got my sense of self back. But j also do enjoy my job and have a flexible employer

Threeoldladies · 10/01/2025 20:15

Thewholeplaceglitters · 10/01/2025 19:31

You don’t sound very nice. Woman finds it easier to look put together pre dc shocker. Btw I’m a mother 24/7 and go out to work too. Being a SAHP is less of a juggle in many ways (I’ve done both).

If it helps, I'm childless and look like someone has scrapped me out the bin.

Nina9870 · 10/01/2025 19:48

I’m on mat leave now with a 4 month old and my 2 and a half year old and it’s brilliant. It’s absolutely mental and exhausting and I don’t get a minute- but honestly give me this any day over work 🤷‍♀️ dreading going back!!

WonderingAboutThus · 10/01/2025 19:42

Thewholeplaceglitters · 10/01/2025 19:31

You don’t sound very nice. Woman finds it easier to look put together pre dc shocker. Btw I’m a mother 24/7 and go out to work too. Being a SAHP is less of a juggle in many ways (I’ve done both).

Exactly what I was thinking. She is glamourous, you sound jealous. She is nice, but you feel "a vibe". Then you are positively happy if there's any indication she might be overwhelmed.

Thewholeplaceglitters · 10/01/2025 19:31

mondaytosunday · 10/01/2025 12:07

I was a sahp. When meeting anyone who asked me if I 'worked', I'd respond: 'yes, I work 24/7 as a mother'. It was only when they started school that I had a few hours break - and filled most of that time with laundry, cleaning, walking the dog etc, though did manage to get to the gym some mornings after drop off!
I remember a very career oriented work colleague of my DH. Always looked very glam, very organised, pristine house. She was very nice but I always got the impression she thought I was living the easy life. Then she had twins. Next time I saw her she was dressed in comfy joggers, hair a mess, a few dishes in the sink... oh, yes she found out what it's really like!

You don’t sound very nice. Woman finds it easier to look put together pre dc shocker. Btw I’m a mother 24/7 and go out to work too. Being a SAHP is less of a juggle in many ways (I’ve done both).

Babyboomtastic · 10/01/2025 19:27

Fair enough if you don't think it's worth a try.

The vast majority of babies don't sleep 7-7 without a feed at night though!(90%+) so it's one of the most obvious reasons why the wakes may have increased.

makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 19:25

Longtermuser · 10/01/2025 19:18

Reflux babies are a whole different ball game. Like actual torture. Work colleague was a clueless twat. You really can't explain to anyone who hasn't been through it so don't even try. Their opinions are not in any way important.

Yes and everything to cure it has a cost elsewhere, with DC1 bringing home one virus after another we really need DC2 to have the best possible gut health to fight them off. After a C-section and a round of antibiotics he had early on in his life, I don't want to obliterate his gut health again with omperazole.

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LostittoBostik · 10/01/2025 19:23

Love51 · 10/01/2025 09:39

When I was younger I planned to write novel while on mat leave.
Obviously that didn't happen.
You live and learn!

Lolll me too.

makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 19:23

makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 19:22

He never used to wake. After we stopped the night feed he slept from 7pm (bar the dream feed) until 5am once or twice, outside of that just woke once around 3am for the dummy a few times too. I think we are going through sleep regression and/or he is upset due to meds for reflux. Too much gaviscon = continuation. Too much lactulose = cramps? Not enough gaviscon he has reflux. Omperazole gave him gas. Also he might be cold? It's a real cold snap and the heating comes on at various points in the night but his room might get chilly. Who knows. It's not hunger though. My DC1 slept 7-7 at 3.5 months without a night feed. Plenty of babies who have night feeds, especially past weaning stage of 6 months are doing it out of habit.

*constipation.

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makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 19:22

He never used to wake. After we stopped the night feed he slept from 7pm (bar the dream feed) until 5am once or twice, outside of that just woke once around 3am for the dummy a few times too. I think we are going through sleep regression and/or he is upset due to meds for reflux. Too much gaviscon = continuation. Too much lactulose = cramps? Not enough gaviscon he has reflux. Omperazole gave him gas. Also he might be cold? It's a real cold snap and the heating comes on at various points in the night but his room might get chilly. Who knows. It's not hunger though. My DC1 slept 7-7 at 3.5 months without a night feed. Plenty of babies who have night feeds, especially past weaning stage of 6 months are doing it out of habit.

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LostittoBostik · 10/01/2025 19:21

Christmasgiraffe · 10/01/2025 09:04

Feels like a holiday to me! I'm really loving it, plus the stress of going to work everyday is gone!

I do understand that it's different for everyone though and still not a great thing for him to say.

Depends on your baby.

Is this your first? Generally the second isn't like the first.

Longtermuser · 10/01/2025 19:18

Reflux babies are a whole different ball game. Like actual torture. Work colleague was a clueless twat. You really can't explain to anyone who hasn't been through it so don't even try. Their opinions are not in any way important.

YourNimbleOchrePoster · 10/01/2025 19:18

Good luck with your baby getting the message of no night feeds any more! Took 15m with my first (bottles) and 2.5 with my second (boobs).
The 4m/8kg thing is just the age where their body is physically capable of waiting without it damaging them, but what they will want to or are likely to do.
I think if that's your expectation, then you're setting yourself up for a lot of frustration as for most babies it's very unrealistic.

None of my three DC ever woke for a feed after three months, lots of babies don’t wake every hour or two.

Thewholeplaceglitters · 10/01/2025 19:17

Cornflakes44 · 10/01/2025 09:22

Did you also have a toddler? I think that's the game changer when it comes to how easy mat leave is. If you have a chilled baby who naps it can be pretty easy time but chuck a three year old in and a needy baby and it's a nightmare.

Tbh I loved mat leave both times round - even when I had 2 under 2. It was still easier than my job. I was in control of how my days went and mostly just hung out with friends. Yes I wasn’t getting loads of sleep but it’s a very different pace of life from going out to work every day.

He made a stupid comment. It’s the kind of flippant thing people say to women on mat leave. It’s mildly irritating but YABU to still be fixating on it weeks later.

Is your DP doing enough to help you OP? The DC aren’t solely your responsibility 24/7; neither is the domestic load.

makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 19:09

AFAIK plenty of babies sleep 7-7 at 4 months without a feed

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makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 19:09

@Babyboomtastic he isn't hungry at 7am for his bottle, leaves it unless we don't give him food in the night.

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Sparkle88K · 10/01/2025 19:08

MAT leave was the hardest year of my life. I love being a mum but there are days where it can be so tough & you have no choice but to soldier on despite hardly any sleep. I found it quite lonely too.
Going back to work part time is like a holiday for me.

Babyboomtastic · 10/01/2025 19:05

makingdecisionsforme · 10/01/2025 18:41

@SleepingQn how have you worked that one out? My 4 month old woke every hour from midnight until 6.30am.

Honestly, have you tried feeding? It might give you some longer stretches?

Hourly wakes aren't unusual, but it's unusual (IMO) for them not to want food if they wake at the age, and sorry it's very unusual for a 4m old to not have any milk at night.

It might be worth a try? It could be the he's repeatedly waking because he's hungry.

SleepingQn · 10/01/2025 18:50

Oof, that sounds tough!

When you said your ‘3 month old hadn't slept for longer than 3 hour stints overnight for 2 weeks,’ I read that as you thinking that three hours was a short stint! Must have mis-read it!

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