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They showed up announced?!

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Snowedon · 09/01/2025 14:31

Heavily pregnant. Missed a midwife appointment a couple of days ago that has been re-booked (just a standard check up at GP) and was meant to start home testing for GD but have been ill with what we think was COVID since Christmas. Been utterly wiped out but tried to do some readings. Failed miserably, communicated all this to the team at the hospital.

I was in bed feeling ill, trying to rest when the door went. It was two midwives. A household member let in confused. I was equally as perplexed since nothing was booked nor mentioned to me. Basically I felt the whole time they were condescending and rude. They spoke to me like a little child telling me off, reminding me of the danger I'm putting my unborn child under, and to remind me and household members to do a "better job of taking care of me". The appointment missed was genuinely the first time I've done something like that and it simply went under my radar since I'm under 4 different teams for different things and appointments are becoming confusing and overwhelming with cancellations and changes. I explained that I had already spoken to the hospital about my troubles with my testing to which they demanded I showed them my phone for "proof". I tried to explain how ill I've been and they belittled it by saying "yes a COLD is going around at the moment" and then kept referring to it as a cold.

Surely they can't do this and need permission first before showing up announced. I would never put my child in harms way, but regardless am I wrong for thinking it's my body and I have a right to not show up/decline things when I want (not saying I am) but regardless. That then doesn't give them the green light to come to my home and bully me surely? I maybe overly sensitive to all of this since I've been ill for 3 long weeks now, really pregnant, but I do feel like as I'm quite young that I've had a major history of being not taken seriously and treated in a patronising manner during this pregnancy. This isn't my first and I know what I am doing. I'm listening and taking things onboard, I am trying. But my god I am getting fed up of this treatment by everyone and it's racking my confidence going forward for birth.

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Mumofoneandone · 09/01/2025 16:00

Does seem quite shocking behaviour from the midwives. Sadly I've experienced some appalling treatment from midwives, so you are not alone. I had a team leader midwife reduce me to tears with her attitude and behaviour - I would have refused to see her again, but fortunately went into labour instead! One of the midwives on the ward was also appalling, clearly hadn't read my notes and reduced me to tears. I discharged myself (as wasn't in full blown labour!)

ruethewhirl · 09/01/2025 15:57

kiwiane · 09/01/2025 14:51

I would rethink your attitude and consider that these are professionals responsible for your care and the safety of your unborn child. It sounds like you have a lot going on health-wise so I’d try to work with the midwives and health services.

You don't think the midwives might have had a bit of an attitude problem too?

I can't abide it when healthcare professionals lecture and scold people as if they were naughty children. YANBU OP.

yikesanotherbooboo · 09/01/2025 15:55

There is nothing wrong with turning up unannounced the midwives have a responsibility to you and your baby and were concerned enough to visit you.
You have potentially got a high risk pregnancy , have not been taking your blood sugars and then had missed an appointment. They don't know that you are not unwell, depressed or just feckless.
Having visited they should not have been rude or patronising.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 09/01/2025 15:54

@Snowedon I can understand why you weren't amused at this unexpected visit and their condescending tone and overstepping behaviour (your phone). Therefore, you should put in a complaint in writing about their behaviour, and state that those two midwives are not to provide any further appointments booked or otherwise (date and time is enough, if you don't have their names), and that in future you will see other midwives instead.

Remind them that maternity care is not mandatory in the UK, and that they are not allowed to use emotional blackmail or coercion in their roles. They have overstepped their professional duties by their behaviour here.

State in writing the contact you have had with the hospital etc. and that you have not been refusing any care. Make it clear that you have simply been unwell with the flu and that the one missed appointment was completely accidental due to illness.

You have to be firm to show that you won't tolerate unprofessional behaviour. In my experience, firm letters/emails asserting your knowledge of your legal birth rights is usually enough to make them get back in their lane.

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:54

@September1013 I was in contact with them this week. They knew I wasn't on the floor.

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Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:53

@wholettheturnipsburn I haven't done that yet. Snowflake's response made it seemed like I've lied already which has triggered this behaviour

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September1013 · 09/01/2025 15:53

Nobody needs permission to knock on your front door surely? Gestational diabetes can be really serious if not managed properly so they probably wanted to check you weren’t collapsed at home unable to get help.

If they didn’t come round and something awful happened then everyone would be blaming the NHS for not caring and not keeping you safe.

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:52

@latetothefisting sorry really not feeling good and highly stressed so making stupid errors. They showed up Unannounced.

@ReadingSoManyThreads I thought so too but apparently with they way they are acting and majority of the responses to this thread, clearly choice over your body/pregnancy isn't the case

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wholettheturnipsburn · 09/01/2025 15:51

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:14

@WorstBJever I didn't feel like I was offered support. Just a lot of condescending remarks and a slap on the wrist.

@snowflakelake sorry where the hell did you get from my op that Ive lied and ghosted them?! The ONE missed routine appointment was a genuine mistake, I would of been too ill to attend anyways. The lies?? Where is that exactly. I don't recall lying to anyone

You said next you might pretend to be out. That's a lie

Honestly , professionals can't win.

Lillers · 09/01/2025 15:51

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:35

@Ponderingwindow my partner did try and also failed to get enough blood for readings. Some people don't have partners though so surely that's besides the point

Hi OP, I had GD in my pregnancy and it can be difficult to get the readings at first, but as someone has already said, there is a knack to it. If you haven’t already I strongly recommend joining the GDUK Facebook Group - there is SO much support on there and I promise you will encounter plenty of people with similar concerns as you.

If it is really impossible to get the readings by finger pricking, you can speak to your GP or your GD consultant about getting a continuous glucose monitor installed - they’re not as accurate but can give you an idea at least.

Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy - it’s hard!

ReadingSoManyThreads · 09/01/2025 15:49

Whoarethoseguys · 09/01/2025 15:15

It's her job we should be pleased that they are making sure noone is going under the radar. They don't know that you wouldn't put your baby at risk .
I have read a simple post about someone complaining about a health visitor calling. Professionals who deal with children can't win. They are critisised for checking on their clients and critisised when things go wrong when they haven't checked.

Maternity care in the UK is optional. Not mandatory. Your "under the radar" bullshit regarding a pregnant woman making decisions for herself over her own body is astounding.

latetothefisting · 09/01/2025 15:49

do you mean unannounced? Not trying to be pedantic, I wouldn't pick up on it if it seemed like it was just a typo in your title but then you specified they turned up announced in your paragraph as well. Whether they told you they were coming or not is pretty key to what you are complaining about.

If they showed up announced (i.e. told you they were coming and then did), I don't see what the issue is?

mumda · 09/01/2025 15:48

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:44

@mumda they haven't saved me from going to them since there was never an appointment made to do so in the first place? Despite being really unwell and unable to leave the house, they are now expecting me to come down to the hospital to get more lancets which I tried to explain I don't feel I can do right now. Did they listen? No.

Now I have them on my case to in.

Heavily pregnant means they don't care about you. They care about the unborn baby. And that means they want you to be healthy.

Always test out things you say by adding "your honour" to the end and imagine how it'll be in a coroners court.

"Oh course I didn't feel like going and making sure I was well, your honour"
How's that sound?

LolaJ87 · 09/01/2025 15:47

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:40

@LolaJ87 I am attending my appointments, I forgot ONE.

I am taking my GD seriously. I've been seriously unwell and struggled to get readings.

No one said I'm not doing it or deliberately missing appointments.

You said you'd tried to do some readings since Christmas and have failed miserably which I took to mean that you haven't done any proper blood sugar readings in over 2 weeks - is this right? If you're in late pregnancy then this is when it's most important to get your blood sugar managed. Did you ask anyone for a CGM since the readings are causing you so many problems?

TiggyTomCat · 09/01/2025 15:46

I don't blame them for showing up unannounced to check you and the baby were ok but it does sound like their attitude was uncaring and unsympathetic and more likely, as it indeed has done, to rile you. As hard as it might be try not to let it as that isn't good for you both either.

Barleycat · 09/01/2025 15:45

Yabu

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:44

@mumda they haven't saved me from going to them since there was never an appointment made to do so in the first place? Despite being really unwell and unable to leave the house, they are now expecting me to come down to the hospital to get more lancets which I tried to explain I don't feel I can do right now. Did they listen? No.

Now I have them on my case to in.

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HaddyAbrams · 09/01/2025 15:43

Isn't the phrase 'show up UNannounced'?

That's besides the point. They have a duty of care. Imagine they didn't check on you and you were found dead or something.

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:42

I didn't disappear off the scene entirely for 3 weeks. I told them that I was unwell in an email and explained the troubles I was having. Clearly that wasn't communicated to the midwives that showed up as they asked to see the email exchanges

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mumda · 09/01/2025 15:41

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:40

@LolaJ87 I am attending my appointments, I forgot ONE.

I am taking my GD seriously. I've been seriously unwell and struggled to get readings.

No one said I'm not doing it or deliberately missing appointments.

Well they're taking it seriously too and have saved you the effort of a trip to them.
I'd have quite liked to say "no, bloody come here" to the midwife rather than dragging out - although it was because it was too hot rather than icy rubbish weather.

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:40

@LolaJ87 I am attending my appointments, I forgot ONE.

I am taking my GD seriously. I've been seriously unwell and struggled to get readings.

No one said I'm not doing it or deliberately missing appointments.

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nopenotplaying · 09/01/2025 15:39

They have a duty of care. They believed you'd gone off the radar for 3 weeks. It seems like different departments don't talk to each other. This is an issue but at least they made the call. However, rudeness not required!

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:38

@backawayfatty1 I'm in my late 20's. But I look really young and I find this always impacts how people treat/see me whether it's work, healthcare or parenting.

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LolaJ87 · 09/01/2025 15:37

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:35

@Ponderingwindow my partner did try and also failed to get enough blood for readings. Some people don't have partners though so surely that's besides the point

There's a knack to it - make sure you've drank loads of water, make sure your hands are warm and try pricking the side of your finger pads rather than the tip, then squeeze it fast. A lot of us struggled to get this right at first but you do have to keep trying.

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:37

@Lostcat that's really and truly how I was made to feel. Like I'm an incubator. One of the midwives asked me about an ongoing issue I had regarding my health and when I tried to tell her about it she was very blatantly not listening and then proceeded to talk over me and change the subject. That's when I realised that they weren't here for my health or wellbeing but here to make a point and tell me off

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