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Snowedon · 09/01/2025 14:31

Heavily pregnant. Missed a midwife appointment a couple of days ago that has been re-booked (just a standard check up at GP) and was meant to start home testing for GD but have been ill with what we think was COVID since Christmas. Been utterly wiped out but tried to do some readings. Failed miserably, communicated all this to the team at the hospital.

I was in bed feeling ill, trying to rest when the door went. It was two midwives. A household member let in confused. I was equally as perplexed since nothing was booked nor mentioned to me. Basically I felt the whole time they were condescending and rude. They spoke to me like a little child telling me off, reminding me of the danger I'm putting my unborn child under, and to remind me and household members to do a "better job of taking care of me". The appointment missed was genuinely the first time I've done something like that and it simply went under my radar since I'm under 4 different teams for different things and appointments are becoming confusing and overwhelming with cancellations and changes. I explained that I had already spoken to the hospital about my troubles with my testing to which they demanded I showed them my phone for "proof". I tried to explain how ill I've been and they belittled it by saying "yes a COLD is going around at the moment" and then kept referring to it as a cold.

Surely they can't do this and need permission first before showing up announced. I would never put my child in harms way, but regardless am I wrong for thinking it's my body and I have a right to not show up/decline things when I want (not saying I am) but regardless. That then doesn't give them the green light to come to my home and bully me surely? I maybe overly sensitive to all of this since I've been ill for 3 long weeks now, really pregnant, but I do feel like as I'm quite young that I've had a major history of being not taken seriously and treated in a patronising manner during this pregnancy. This isn't my first and I know what I am doing. I'm listening and taking things onboard, I am trying. But my god I am getting fed up of this treatment by everyone and it's racking my confidence going forward for birth.

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Theunamedcat · 09/01/2025 16:25

Some midwives just have shitty attitudes one actually argued with me whether it was my 2nd or third baby seriously? I SHOULD FUCKING KNOW apparently my "excuse you?" Response to her telling me NO it's YOUR SECOND pregnancy upset her and she didn't want to deal with me again I had a senior come over to me demanding to know "my side" I said my side is this is my third pregnancy and baby I don't need someone telling me how many times I've done this she stared and walked away

I discharged and went to another hospital

Aposterhasnoname · 09/01/2025 16:23

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 14:44

I do wish household member didn't let them in but I think they were just caught off guard and assumed it was something I knew about. Going ahead I will tell everyone not to let anyone in or say I'm not home.

But that won’t be necessary, because missing your appointment was a genuine mistake and a a one off right?

PrincessOfPreschool · 09/01/2025 16:22

I'm assuming they did your blood sugar.

OP you just need a pinprick. Literally a spot of blood. Prick skin then squeeze. The thing your put on it sucks up the blood. I had GD with twins and got veeeeery used to the pricks multiple times a day. Required insulin in the last few weeks too. If you're not controlling the GD out so be making you feel rubbish. What you think is a virus may be GD.

OurDreamLife · 09/01/2025 16:22

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 14:44

I do wish household member didn't let them in but I think they were just caught off guard and assumed it was something I knew about. Going ahead I will tell everyone not to let anyone in or say I'm not home.

I’m sure they would have contacted social services if you were uncontactable.

momtoboys · 09/01/2025 16:20

If you are so unwell that you cannot take 2 minutes to take your BS readings, perhaps you should be in hospital. Not taking them is irresponsible and harmful to you and your baby. You needed to be check upon.

viques · 09/01/2025 16:20

CremeEggThief · 09/01/2025 14:49

YABU. Better to have checked on you and find you're ok than otherwise.

This. Op says she is under 4 different teams so there are obviously concerns about her health and the pregnancy, GD is not something to be ignored, yes, the OP told them about the missed appointment , but they are not to know there are other family members there to keep an eye on her, and GD complications can be sudden and life threatening both to the OP and the baby .And , btw, do the other family members know what to look for re GD symptoms?

Be thankful you have a team who are concerned about your health and your baby’s health OP, so many stories about people slipping through the cracks in the NHS, so try to understand why they are concerned for you and accept the support they are offering with better grace.

JustMyView13 · 09/01/2025 16:20

I think it’s good that they came, because IF you were vulnerable they could’ve supported you. So I’m not necessarily anti them showing up, but to be so rude to you in your own home? I’d have shown them the door and told them they’d be more than welcome to return when they find their bedside manner.

OurDreamLife · 09/01/2025 16:19

I‘m glad they do these checks.

Silvers11 · 09/01/2025 16:19

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:44

@mumda they haven't saved me from going to them since there was never an appointment made to do so in the first place? Despite being really unwell and unable to leave the house, they are now expecting me to come down to the hospital to get more lancets which I tried to explain I don't feel I can do right now. Did they listen? No.

Now I have them on my case to in.

You NEED to check your blood sugars and you need to understand how dangerous GD can be for you and your baby.

Seems to me the midwives are concerned about various excuses you are making as to why you haven't done things. They MAY have been rude, difficult to say, and if they were then that is bad - but you do sound a bit defensive in your posts, and they may have picked up on that when they visited. You don't sound concerned about the GD in your posts, really. And you absolutely SHOULD be.

Edited to add: Refusing to engage, with the midwives, let them into the house, etc. will only end up with more scrutiny of you, not less. Possibly involvement of Social Services too.

SassK · 09/01/2025 16:19

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 14:31

Heavily pregnant. Missed a midwife appointment a couple of days ago that has been re-booked (just a standard check up at GP) and was meant to start home testing for GD but have been ill with what we think was COVID since Christmas. Been utterly wiped out but tried to do some readings. Failed miserably, communicated all this to the team at the hospital.

I was in bed feeling ill, trying to rest when the door went. It was two midwives. A household member let in confused. I was equally as perplexed since nothing was booked nor mentioned to me. Basically I felt the whole time they were condescending and rude. They spoke to me like a little child telling me off, reminding me of the danger I'm putting my unborn child under, and to remind me and household members to do a "better job of taking care of me". The appointment missed was genuinely the first time I've done something like that and it simply went under my radar since I'm under 4 different teams for different things and appointments are becoming confusing and overwhelming with cancellations and changes. I explained that I had already spoken to the hospital about my troubles with my testing to which they demanded I showed them my phone for "proof". I tried to explain how ill I've been and they belittled it by saying "yes a COLD is going around at the moment" and then kept referring to it as a cold.

Surely they can't do this and need permission first before showing up announced. I would never put my child in harms way, but regardless am I wrong for thinking it's my body and I have a right to not show up/decline things when I want (not saying I am) but regardless. That then doesn't give them the green light to come to my home and bully me surely? I maybe overly sensitive to all of this since I've been ill for 3 long weeks now, really pregnant, but I do feel like as I'm quite young that I've had a major history of being not taken seriously and treated in a patronising manner during this pregnancy. This isn't my first and I know what I am doing. I'm listening and taking things onboard, I am trying. But my god I am getting fed up of this treatment by everyone and it's racking my confidence going forward for birth.

Christmas was over a fortnight ago. It astounds me that you wouldn't be asking them for home visits, and for help with your readings (given you've been too ill to get out of bed for a fortnight).
That you're angry and talking about refusing them entry is utterly bizarre, and if anything it'll (correctly imo) ramp up scrutiny.

Todaywasbetter · 09/01/2025 16:19

you said you were feeling overwhelmed and couldn’t manage all the appointments et cetera so they’re saying the adults in your household Should be looking after you better. It’s absolutely right when one member is unwell the rest need to step up and they didn’t did they?

DoComeToMeKitty · 09/01/2025 16:19

OP why can't you do the blood testing? The first time is tough but you've just got to get on with it. TBH the fact that you are failing to test your blood for the safety of the baby is very concerning.

I've had GD, it's shit it really is. Pricking your insulin finger regularly, obsessing over everything you eat, injecting insulin. But you need to do it for the safety of your baby.

AsmallabodeIsallweWant · 09/01/2025 16:17

kiwiane · 09/01/2025 14:51

I would rethink your attitude and consider that these are professionals responsible for your care and the safety of your unborn child. It sounds like you have a lot going on health-wise so I’d try to work with the midwives and health services.

And what is her attitude precisely????

When and how the UK became such a country where people are treated like brainless shit in their own homes

WallaceinAnderland · 09/01/2025 16:16

What a great service, turning up at your door. Proactive and preventative care. I think you should be very happy that they checked up on you and your baby.

MyDeftDuck · 09/01/2025 16:14

CremeEggThief · 09/01/2025 14:49

YABU. Better to have checked on you and find you're ok than otherwise.

This.
They have a duty of care to you and your unborn baby. Gestational diabetes can be very serious if not monitored correctly.
Had no one bothered and matters took a turn for the worst you would probably blame someone for neglect like so many others do

OhBling · 09/01/2025 16:12

I think that the midwives turning up is not the problem - you emailed them to say you were unwell and you are at risk of GD and not getting readings. They have no idea if that email was actually sent by you, was sent under coercion, if you're in your righ tmind or even if the reason you're so unwell is because of hugely uncontrolled diabetes. I think it's pretty impressive that they did and the fact that you are not getting readings is a huge concern.

However, it sounds like they were not helpful and kind or understanding and that IS a problem and, having experienced the same (dismissive, patronising comments about my GD... the week after my mother had died so not exactly easy to keep sugar under control).

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 09/01/2025 16:09

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:44

@mumda they haven't saved me from going to them since there was never an appointment made to do so in the first place? Despite being really unwell and unable to leave the house, they are now expecting me to come down to the hospital to get more lancets which I tried to explain I don't feel I can do right now. Did they listen? No.

Now I have them on my case to in.

You can't really opt out of dealing with gestational diabetes, it's extremely serious and can have very negative outcomes for the baby if not properly managed. Being ill is only going to make your glucose control worse, so theres even more need to monitor in those circumstances. Its a very easy test, rheres really no reason no to manage it. It sounds to me like they think you're not taking it seriously enough, which I'd agree with.

UncharteredWaters · 09/01/2025 16:08

If someone is so unwell that they can’t do their own sugars they need to be in hospital.
Can you shower, shite and drink water in the last 3 weeks because then you can do your sugars!!!

GD isn’t a game - you won’t be saying ‘oh it was too much for me’ if something happens to your baby. No doubt you’d be blaming the hospital for not ‘caring’ for you.

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 09/01/2025 16:08

I'm under 4 different teams for different things and appointments are becoming confusing and overwhelming

YABU

If you're under the care of 4 separate teams then you aren't experiencing a 'normal' pregnancy and they are doing the right thing checking on you.

HaddyAbrams · 09/01/2025 16:07

ReadingSoManyThreads · 09/01/2025 16:00

Pretty sure the other people living in her house would have noticed if she'd died in bed.

Why are people excusing unpleasant behaviour from these two unprofessional midwives? They are breaching all kinds of codes of conduct by what they did and said today to this lady. We've truly been brainwashed in the UK to put up and shut up with shitty healthcare.

Edited

Depends who she lives with. Abusive husband? They just don't know. Yes, it's extreme. But they have to check.
Same as when my son wasn't in school due to EBSA someone came round every week to make sure he was OK. They had a duty of care, just in case I was abusing him. I disliked it at the same time as understanding and accepting why they did it.

And no, that didn't mean they should have been rude/treated her like a child. But them checking up is ultimately a good thing.

Scottishskifun · 09/01/2025 16:06

You will have e flagged on their system due to missed appointment and GD honestly they were doing their job to check that you were both OK. Sometimes when people fall off the radar it's not for innocent reasons and something else is at play. They have a duty of care.

Regarding struggling to get GD readings you used to be able to apply for a free trial for a libre 2 diabetic monitor directly from the website. You put it into your arm and use your phone to scan your readings. You can the upload these to the portal or screen shot them to an email. It's generally only 2 weeks they last but does save a lot of faff with finger testing.

nervouslandlord · 09/01/2025 16:06

Strikes me that if the midwives were in the area and they felt that professionally they needed to check in on you then they were doing a good job. N excuse for rudeness of course. But turning up unannounced to check on a heavily pregnant woman with gestational diabetes sounds like theyre very much doing their job and bravo them.

Not saying you didn't, but did you greet them in the most polite way? Their behaviour could have been a result of the greeting they received, when they're just being diligent

TorroFerney · 09/01/2025 16:05

Crazycatlady79 · 09/01/2025 15:16

If you felt they were condescending etc, surely you challenged that there and then?

This, I found apart from one they talked to me as if I was a bit slow, health visitor did as well but I assumed that was because they are appealing to the lowest common denominator god I mean some of the houses they must go in must be horrendous. My friend as part of her work saw a red book where the hv had written that there were about four adults with the newborn baby in the same room all chain smoking and you could hardly see so she had to point out that it wasn’t a good idea to do that in the same room as the baby. Ffs

I had stitches and the midwife visited me at home and said I don’t suppose I need to tell you to keep that area clean do I. Err no

so it’s not personal op, they don’t know you.

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 16:01

@yikesanotherbooboo but that is my point. They did know I was unwell as I stated so in an email to them.

Again, I wouldn't be so angered by this visit if it was them showing concern or offering support. That was far from what happened here. It felt like a telling off and then they very quickly left

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ReadingSoManyThreads · 09/01/2025 16:00

HaddyAbrams · 09/01/2025 15:43

Isn't the phrase 'show up UNannounced'?

That's besides the point. They have a duty of care. Imagine they didn't check on you and you were found dead or something.

Pretty sure the other people living in her house would have noticed if she'd died in bed.

Why are people excusing unpleasant behaviour from these two unprofessional midwives? They are breaching all kinds of codes of conduct by what they did and said today to this lady. We've truly been brainwashed in the UK to put up and shut up with shitty healthcare.