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Snowedon · 09/01/2025 14:31

Heavily pregnant. Missed a midwife appointment a couple of days ago that has been re-booked (just a standard check up at GP) and was meant to start home testing for GD but have been ill with what we think was COVID since Christmas. Been utterly wiped out but tried to do some readings. Failed miserably, communicated all this to the team at the hospital.

I was in bed feeling ill, trying to rest when the door went. It was two midwives. A household member let in confused. I was equally as perplexed since nothing was booked nor mentioned to me. Basically I felt the whole time they were condescending and rude. They spoke to me like a little child telling me off, reminding me of the danger I'm putting my unborn child under, and to remind me and household members to do a "better job of taking care of me". The appointment missed was genuinely the first time I've done something like that and it simply went under my radar since I'm under 4 different teams for different things and appointments are becoming confusing and overwhelming with cancellations and changes. I explained that I had already spoken to the hospital about my troubles with my testing to which they demanded I showed them my phone for "proof". I tried to explain how ill I've been and they belittled it by saying "yes a COLD is going around at the moment" and then kept referring to it as a cold.

Surely they can't do this and need permission first before showing up announced. I would never put my child in harms way, but regardless am I wrong for thinking it's my body and I have a right to not show up/decline things when I want (not saying I am) but regardless. That then doesn't give them the green light to come to my home and bully me surely? I maybe overly sensitive to all of this since I've been ill for 3 long weeks now, really pregnant, but I do feel like as I'm quite young that I've had a major history of being not taken seriously and treated in a patronising manner during this pregnancy. This isn't my first and I know what I am doing. I'm listening and taking things onboard, I am trying. But my god I am getting fed up of this treatment by everyone and it's racking my confidence going forward for birth.

OP posts:
Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 09/01/2025 16:52

What are the four teams you are under?

LolaJ87 · 09/01/2025 16:50

@Snowedon is there a reason you're still giving out about the midwives attitudes than replying to anyone giving you advice on your GD or checking your sugars? You don't seem to be taking any responsibility over neglecting a very serious pregnancy condition.

RedOrangeSky · 09/01/2025 16:48

viques · 09/01/2025 16:36

But this is not “shoddy maternity care”. This is a team - who are probably overstretched and overworked, and have done extra shifts over the holiday period - but are concerned enough to make a home visit to someone who (despite their advanced age) is acting like a sulky teen who doesn’t understand the importance of the blood checks she has been asked to do but hasn’t, and is threatening to pretend not to be at home to health professionals concerned for her health, and the health of her baby.

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They may be overworked. But it is shoddy and it's not caring or supportive care.
Their communication system obviously meant they aren't aware of all communication.
The OP missed one appointment and if I have understood had already been in touch about the appointment - it's not like she has disappeared.
She hasn't refused to do the blood test but had been having genuine issues with it which she had already been in touch about.
They haven't listened to her and probably just went to tick some box on a system because she missed an appointment without any real thinking like has she been in touch to explain, would it be less intrusive to make a quick phone call?

Also a grown adult has the right if she wants to not to do any test or attend an appointment, but that's not what has happened in this case.

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 16:47

I was just waiting for the "well maybe YOU came across this way and that's why you received that treatment" posts.

No I came off in no such manner. I said hi with them, was communicative, I was cooperative and perfectly pleasant

As another pp said, I wish I had stood up for myself in the moment and called out the belittling. Unfortunately I have a tendency to not have a back bone and apparently that applies in my own home, which is a worse blow.

OP posts:
housethatbuiltme · 09/01/2025 16:46

Covid rates are very low this year as far as seasonal risks go, its been massively over taken by Flu for the first time in years. How do you know its 'covid' you have?

Flu in pregnancy can be fatal, I very nearly died from it and ended up with a preemie.

Covid itself can be fatal too, millions died and if its lasted weeks thats not a good sign.

Diabetes and imbalances like anemia etc... that occur in pregnancy can also cause the sickly feeling and fatigue you describe.

You seem to be very blase of all these risks. Like you just assumed its one thing and thats that.

Wonderingpigeon · 09/01/2025 16:45

Don't take it personally. I was really poorly in my pregnancy, I was discharged from hospital under the midwife care and they sent me straight back into hospital. They said they can't take responsibility of a serious condition and were annoyed the doctors left them to deal with what was beyond their workload and ability in the community. My guess is, if anything happened to you they will get the blame, so probably terrified.
A missed appointment and forgetting I guess could indicate worsening blood sugars? So probably panicked so did a home check incase you were on the floor or something 😅 you can't be too careful. You can decline rapidly.

So I don't think it was at you or intended how they came across. Probably a mix of worry then relief you were OK. As for two of them, they might of thought you needed immediate treatment and that would take two people (moving, lifting etc)

Also edit to add, do you have a complex needs type midwife with your condition? Be honest and say how they made you feel. They are great with liaising with all the midwifes and professionals for you.

Gggglinda · 09/01/2025 16:43

YANBU. Same thing happened to me (it was over a decade ago, so not recently) I was pregnant with my son at 19 and had him when I was 20 and was spoken to like crap from my first ever 12 wk scan. I was constantly belittled and undermined by the midwives and at times bullied. It's probably because of your age. Don't let them do it to you, I wish I had stood up for myself now. Even when I was in labour they were rude and after on the ward too. They have no right turning up to your house and if they really were "concerned" they would've spoken to you with a little more empathy. Sorry you are going through this and I hope it doesn't happen again x

nervouslandlord · 09/01/2025 16:43

@Anywherebuthere
Not usually. Some people are odd about unannounced knocks on doors. Many of us though don't have a problem with engaging with people without prior appointment.

AgileSnake · 09/01/2025 16:40

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RedOrangeSky · 09/01/2025 16:39

I don't think you are at all unreasonable.
If they had come and spoken to you in a supportive manner and to check how you are that would be one thing, but they clearly did not do that. Asking to check your phone is outrageous.

viques · 09/01/2025 16:36

ReadingSoManyThreads · 09/01/2025 16:30

Really? When they spoke to her like a child and demanded to check her phone and read her emails?? Jesus, you're just the type to bend over on command, aren't you? Totally brainwashed into thinking women should be grateful for shoddy awful maternity care.

But this is not “shoddy maternity care”. This is a team - who are probably overstretched and overworked, and have done extra shifts over the holiday period - but are concerned enough to make a home visit to someone who (despite their advanced age) is acting like a sulky teen who doesn’t understand the importance of the blood checks she has been asked to do but hasn’t, and is threatening to pretend not to be at home to health professionals concerned for her health, and the health of her baby.

Scirocco · 09/01/2025 16:34

If you're requiring input from 4 different teams for your pregnancy, have uncontrolled GD and missed an appointment, I can see why people would be concerned and want to check you're ok. What's the actual issue with testing your sugars?

MyNamesGaryAndImAddictedToChips · 09/01/2025 16:31

I don't know if anyone has already said this but you can just buy lancets if necessary, either online or at pharmacies, they're not expensive. Hope this is helpful to you OP.

Anywherebuthere · 09/01/2025 16:30

WallaceinAnderland · 09/01/2025 16:16

What a great service, turning up at your door. Proactive and preventative care. I think you should be very happy that they checked up on you and your baby.

Its not great at all. They turned up unannounced. Thats intrusive.

Usually on MN no one likes guests/MIL/grandparents etc without prior arrangements so why is it ok for MW to turn up without an appointment.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 09/01/2025 16:30

WallaceinAnderland · 09/01/2025 16:16

What a great service, turning up at your door. Proactive and preventative care. I think you should be very happy that they checked up on you and your baby.

Really? When they spoke to her like a child and demanded to check her phone and read her emails?? Jesus, you're just the type to bend over on command, aren't you? Totally brainwashed into thinking women should be grateful for shoddy awful maternity care.

Christmaschildcare · 09/01/2025 16:29

Do you understand about the risks of unmanaged gestational diabetes, especially in late pregnancy @Snowedon ?

to be under the care of several departments indicates there are even more concerns, but just to start there…

Theunamedcat · 09/01/2025 16:29

PrincessOfPreschool · 09/01/2025 16:22

I'm assuming they did your blood sugar.

OP you just need a pinprick. Literally a spot of blood. Prick skin then squeeze. The thing your put on it sucks up the blood. I had GD with twins and got veeeeery used to the pricks multiple times a day. Required insulin in the last few weeks too. If you're not controlling the GD out so be making you feel rubbish. What you think is a virus may be GD.

Some people don't bleed easily my son is one of them thank goodness it was decided he didn't have issues in the end because the relentless hydrate warm up the hands stab and SQUEEZE was awful you can't even get blood for a blood test from him when he falls over there is rarely blood the only time he bleeds is from his nose then it's a fountain

MrsAmaretto · 09/01/2025 16:28

I’m assuming GD is gestational diabetes? Normal type 1 diabetes can go out of control when you’re ill so I assume it’s the same for GD? You’ve been ill for 3 weeks and are struggling to do something anround your care and have missed an appointment. Of course they’ve done an unannounced welfare check. They have offered you an alternative to doing it at home - they’ll do it at hospital. You are not happy with this alternative - what do you want?

The positives are that they clearly do not think you are ill enough to be admitted to hospital. That’s surely good?

If they have been patronising etc go into Care Opinion where you can quickly complain. You can take someone with you to your appointments to advocate for you? Make it clear to your friend/ partner what you want to get out of it and what wishes your worried will be ignored.

Esdale · 09/01/2025 16:28

Snowedon · 09/01/2025 15:44

@mumda they haven't saved me from going to them since there was never an appointment made to do so in the first place? Despite being really unwell and unable to leave the house, they are now expecting me to come down to the hospital to get more lancets which I tried to explain I don't feel I can do right now. Did they listen? No.

Now I have them on my case to in.

Can your partner collect them? Another friend or family member? Could you ask them to post or taxi them out to your house? Order some to delivered from Boots, an online pharmacy, or Amazon?

You are coming across as having lots of excuses about why you can't do your blood sugars, I can see why them stressing to you that it is important came across as a telling off. You seem to see it as optional rather than a priority.

Destiny123 · 09/01/2025 16:28

It'll be a safety check to ensure you're OK, missed appts can get Safeguarding flags (esp for baby PN ones). Infections will make your sugar control v poor so they're probably worried on your behalf as poor sugar control has lots of implications for baby. Their manner should have been more friendly but they're only trying to help. Young mums often need increased support needs. Highly suggest you don't pretend your not in in the future as will be a Safeguarding flag. Hope you feel better soon x

Timetochillnow · 09/01/2025 16:28

I’d be grateful for their visit - if you were surprised to see them do you think you may have come over as a bit defensive or hostile?

Whiteskies · 09/01/2025 16:27

From your posts you sound unreasonable OP. They are doing their job properly. It can't be nice for them visiting a house where they are made to feel unwelcome. You claim they were rude to you but I wonder if you were rude to them.
Midwives are leaving the profession in droves. They are trying to do their best to keep you and your baby safe. I think you are being very, very unreasonable.

Anywherebuthere · 09/01/2025 16:26

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 09/01/2025 15:02

I wouldn't be happy with anyone demanding to see my phone (maybe the police if I was under arrest).
They should have been showing concern and seeing what they could do to support you, not treating you like a suspect. Will you have to have dealings with them going forward? In your shoes I might put in a complaint about them, and ask to be seen by someone else.

This!

Im not sure why other posters seem to think OP is the one with the problem here.

Nollybolly6 · 09/01/2025 16:26

I’ve done 60 days of daily checks for GD. It’s not that hard YABU

trivialMorning · 09/01/2025 16:25

First two pg - MW and HV were professional - next area the culture was incredibly paternalistic - all mother and even fathers were talked down to and frequently dismissed.

A mother I knew who was in late 40s on her 8th successful pg - they sent her home insisting they knew better than her if she was in labour - they just got back to hospital before birth. Many trained or worked in adjacent area caught up in maternity scandal and reports cite dismissing parents/women concerns.

I don't think the house visit itself was a bad idea - and frankly if you're to ill to keep track of appointments then other adults in house should be helping - sound more like their attitude though if you do have or are at risk of gestational diabetes it really is serious and needs monitoring for both your sakes.

Do you have a community MW or consultant or someone on one of the medical teams you get on better with you an have a talk with - about your ongoing care in pg - how it's all being managed?

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