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DMIL giving TV time and oven food for toddler - should I say anything?

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Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:14

Name changed as outing.

DMIL looks after DS (20 months) 2 afternoons a week (about 4 hours each time). I know the mumsnet consensus is that no one is entitled to childcare from grandparents so I’d like to point out that I am very grateful for this.

The issue I have is that DS always comes home from there having watched what seems to be a lot of TV. He has started saying the names of lots of TV programmes we have never showed him. DMIL also sometimes brags that they ‘only’ watched 30 mins today. It worries me how much they are watching normally. DH and I are aware that some screen time won’t do any harm and is almost unavoidable in this day and age but also the studies show it should be limited and also DS is still very young. We’re very against DS getting a tablet for example.

MIL also only feeds DS oven food like chicken nuggets and chips, despite cooking for herself and FIL the rest of the week. We’ve said on many occasions that DS can eat whatever MIL and FIL are eating but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

Another factor that complicates matters is that I have a health condition that sometimes means I do struggle. These ‘shortcuts’ in my eyes such as easy food and TV should ideally be reserved for when I’m struggling, (MIL is aware this happens regularly).

Between my struggling and MIL, DS is having too much rubbish food and TV. When I’m fit and well, I play games, do crafts, take DS out etc and cook from scratch. I’m trying to make sure he has a varied diet and is exposed to lots of tastes and healthy food from an early age. In fact even when I’m not well I’m still doing this and making myself ill as I feel I have to compensate for the time he’s spending with her.

I don’t understand why MIL can’t do the same as me when I’m well as she is a fit 61 year old. I just don’t think it should be so hard to keep a toddler entertained without TV for 4 hours. If it was occasionally or once a week I wouldn’t blink an eye but it is every time without fail. DH has made some subtle hints that we have noticed her routine is TV and oven food and we’re not thrilled but she was defensive and hasn’t changed her behaviour.

YABU - You’re getting free childcare, you can’t set terms. Keep quiet.

YANBU - It’s only 4 hours. She shouldn’t be relying on rubbish food and TV. Especially when it’s taking all the ‘shortcuts’ from you when you spend the most time with him and need it due to your health condition. DH should say something - again!

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 09/01/2025 14:46

She's doing what she can for you, if you want to dictate what happens then you need to pay someone op. Yabu

TheTruthHurtsDontIt · 09/01/2025 14:45

Honestly, some of my fondest childhood memories are curling up with my gran on the sofa, eating potato waffles with cheese and an oily fried egg, and watching the Silver Brumby. It did me absolutely no harm and I promise I'm now healthy, happy and still have a lovely relationship with my gran.

Viviennemary · 09/01/2025 14:45

You sound really picky and fault finding. Just either look after him yourself or pay for childcare. They are doing nothing wrong IMHO.

QuimCarrey · 09/01/2025 14:44

Offredismysister · 09/01/2025 14:37

Or, here’s an idea. When you are struggling, why doesn’t your DH make healthy food or batch cook for you & his child.

Excellent idea! It's certainly more his responsibility than the person who's kindly providing 8 hours a week of free childcare.

NimmyB · 09/01/2025 14:44

YABU - You’re getting free childcare, you can’t set terms. Keep quiet.

devilspawn · 09/01/2025 14:42

Oneflightdown · 09/01/2025 14:25

Look at the Royal College of Paediatricians info on screen time, and then stop worrying about that all together.

You are being unreasonable (and somewhat hypocritical) to say that as it's "only" twice a week your MIL should be able to manage without oven food. If it's "only" twice a week, it shouldn't matter. Provide food yourselves if it's a critical issue to you (it wouldn't be for me) or pay for alternative childcare. Those are you options - but trying to control your MIL's choices is not one of them.

It's interesting that the Royal College of Paediatricians has a different take on it than all the other leading bodies (World Health Organisation, American Academy of Pediatrics etc) who say that under 2 years old there should be no TV time at all.

Cyclebabble · 09/01/2025 14:42

It sounds like they are both making good memories. My nan had a thing for Bullseye and Jim Bowen (she used to fancy him rotten), so on Sundays at her house this is what we did, whilst eating chicken and chips. I still feel nostalgic when I see Bullseye now. The food once or twice a week is not really a problem, but if you thought it was you could always send a meal ready to warm up?

BodyKeepingScore · 09/01/2025 14:41

Biffbaff · 09/01/2025 14:36

There aren't any studies that show that screen time is bad for kids. It's just snobby. How is sitting and reading a book/going to a play OK but sitting and watching TV the work of the devil?

Actually there are...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10353947/#:~:text=Studies%20have%20indicated%20that%20compared,poorer%20vocabulary%20acquisition%20%5B15%5D.

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2808593

bmjopen.bmj.com/content/9/1/e023191

LegoHouse274 · 09/01/2025 14:41

ThejoyofNC · 09/01/2025 14:23

So it's alright for him to eat junk when it makes your life easier, but not when it makes life easier for MIL who is doing you a huge favour?

30 minutes of screen time with his granny twice a week is going to do him no harm at all.

You sound ungrateful.

Completely agree.

If youre not happy with the care she provides then don't send him.

If it's good enough that you'd send him, then it's good enough.

PokerFriedDips · 09/01/2025 14:40

Easy solution - use a nursery or childminder and you can expect good quality childcare and nutritionally balanced food. If time with grandma is full of "treats" that should be restricted/occasional then time with grandma needs to be restricted/occasional.

ComtesseDeSpair · 09/01/2025 14:39

In 12 years’ time, when you are looking at a group of gawky teen boys including your DS, with no idea who in that group had what amount of TV time or what sort of diet they had when they were toddlers, and yet who have all turned out more or less the same and perfectly healthily and successfully, you’ll sort of realise that all those years ago, right now, you were being a bit precious.

If you’re often too unwell to cook for or entertain DS and DH doesn’t like DS eating freezer food, rather than hassle his mother who’s doing you both a favour, perhaps he could batch cook some healthy dinners for the freezer so that on your bad days you can just prepare those for DS rather than nuggets and chips?

Emilianoo · 09/01/2025 14:39

Kindly, get a grip.

GoldMerchant · 09/01/2025 14:39

I think you're overreacting to two afternoons a week (so, two meals a week?). Many people put the TV for 30 minutes for toddlers late afternoon because toddlers are wild then. I imagine this women of almost retirement age just needs a little bit of time sitting down, and to make a dinner she doesn't have to stand over and that she know DS will eat.

If you really care this much, send meals, and send toys etc to occupy him.

ToddlerSwim · 09/01/2025 14:38

YABU I'm afraid. If you have specific requirements like this I think you need to pay for childcare.

I do get it. My DH is chronically ill with good and bad days in the same way and we do prefer to "save" the screen time for those bad days.

You say she's fit and healthy and only 61 but at 61 it is not unlikely she's more tired than back when she had her own kids. Toddlers are particularly hard work and especially when they're not your own and you're not used the noise and you don't know them and their moods and their communication inside out like you do as parents.

I really don't think the oven food is bad. It's not like he's existing on Haribo and hobnobs and if he has healthy homemade food with you then overall he's still having a really good healthy and varied diet. If it bothers you I think batch cooking (which will also help for your bad days) is the way forward.

Perhaps she prefers to eat her meals at a different time of day to your DC or perhaps she's used to making the right sized portions for the two of them and doesn't want to have to try and adapt it to more or perhaps she prefers to cook with a lot of salt. I don't know. But whatever it is, she is making it clear that she would rather prepare a separate meal for him so either embrace the chicken nuggets or send something along.

Like I said I am sympathetic. It would be much easier for you if she had him out playing on the park or hunting for sticks in the mud, doing baking and making forts. Then on your bad days you wouldn't have to feel as bad about popping the TV on.

But at the same time she is doing you a massive favour for free. She may be struggling too. Four hours does feel like a lot when it's caring for a toddler. I just don't think it's fair to expect it, especially when it's not her fault (or bluntly her problem) you're unwell.

I think what you're looking for here is a nice nursery or childminder.

Offredismysister · 09/01/2025 14:37

Or, here’s an idea. When you are struggling, why doesn’t your DH make healthy food or batch cook for you & his child.

Octavia64 · 09/01/2025 14:36

Has MIL tried to feed him other food and had it rejected?

It's all very well you saying he can eat what they are eating but if he won't eat it she may be going down the it's better to give him something he will eat line.

Biffbaff · 09/01/2025 14:36

There aren't any studies that show that screen time is bad for kids. It's just snobby. How is sitting and reading a book/going to a play OK but sitting and watching TV the work of the devil?

Tia86 · 09/01/2025 14:36

At 61 is there a chance that MIL is still working? Maybe she wants an easy option on her days off when she is looking after the toddler?

I think you need to just let this one go. The child is being fed and if they don't watch TV with you then it doesn't matter.

If you cause upset over this then maybe she will stop the weekly arrangements, making life harder for yourself and maybe depending on your illness impacting how many bad days you have.

Rainbow450 · 09/01/2025 14:34

If you're worried about the food, batch cook up some Bolognese, chilli, lasagne etc, portion up and all your mil has to do is cook pasta, rice some veg and heat up.

I can't tell if the screen time is all year around or just winter. If it's latter then give them some slack as it's cold but if all year then you'll have to be honest and say you don't like it and suggest a park visit or something as an alternative or send a ball/outside toys and influence it that way.

Ultimately though she's doing you a favour so you could pay for childcare if not satisfied.

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 09/01/2025 14:33

I think you should batch cook so the days you are unwell you have something in the freezer that you can turn to instead of oven food and therefore that would negate the days your MIL gives oven food. Don’t get narky at your MIL who is giving free childcare it is not the hill to die on

Emmacb82 · 09/01/2025 14:32

I have no one to help with childcare and have 3 children. And yes they watch too much tv and have oven food some days. But yet they are thriving and happy and that’s all I can ask. I think for the sake of two afternoons a week and help with childcare you have got to learn to relax a little bit and know that they will not come to any harm! I think unless there are really important issues such as medical reasons etc, grandparents can make their own rules when it comes to them looking after their own grandchildren.

givemushypeasachance · 09/01/2025 14:32

If it was a safety issue like her transporting him not in a car seat, refusing to cut grapes and tomatoes and other choking hazard foods because "we didn't have to do that in my day" etc, or her suddenly acquiring an XL bully dog or something, then fine red line time. What you're talking about is more about a style of parenting/child raising issue. If you want to make him having zero screen time or 'junky' oven food with other people a red line issue for you, then okay, but you'll have to use paid childcare. And you can't insist what childminders and nannies do either - you pay for the service they provide. You may find they have policies you don't agree with, they don't act how you like if there's a biter in the toddler room and your child gets bitten, etc etc. If you want to dictate exactly how someone cares for your child you have to fork out for a nanny.

Spirallingdownwards · 09/01/2025 14:30

Your options don't make sense really.

Maybe your ILS don't eat the same time as your DC hence they make them something different. I was thinking it won't matter twice a week. Then I see you feed the same stuff too so I lost any sympathy at all because despite what issues you may be dealing with you can't do one rule for you and a different one for me! !

LittleRedRidingHoody · 09/01/2025 14:30

I understand the frustration, but you have to let it go.

Perhaps find some freezer food you're happier with (veggie nuggets, or the organic 'healthy' ones and sweet potato fries and ask if she'd like you to pick them up regularly to pass over?

Ultimately if you complain and change things now, it's unlikely she'll be there in future if you really need it.

WhatNoRaisins · 09/01/2025 14:30

I do think that these things come with the territory of free childcare from families. Agree with PP would it help if you sent some food for them to heat up?