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DMIL giving TV time and oven food for toddler - should I say anything?

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Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:14

Name changed as outing.

DMIL looks after DS (20 months) 2 afternoons a week (about 4 hours each time). I know the mumsnet consensus is that no one is entitled to childcare from grandparents so I’d like to point out that I am very grateful for this.

The issue I have is that DS always comes home from there having watched what seems to be a lot of TV. He has started saying the names of lots of TV programmes we have never showed him. DMIL also sometimes brags that they ‘only’ watched 30 mins today. It worries me how much they are watching normally. DH and I are aware that some screen time won’t do any harm and is almost unavoidable in this day and age but also the studies show it should be limited and also DS is still very young. We’re very against DS getting a tablet for example.

MIL also only feeds DS oven food like chicken nuggets and chips, despite cooking for herself and FIL the rest of the week. We’ve said on many occasions that DS can eat whatever MIL and FIL are eating but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

Another factor that complicates matters is that I have a health condition that sometimes means I do struggle. These ‘shortcuts’ in my eyes such as easy food and TV should ideally be reserved for when I’m struggling, (MIL is aware this happens regularly).

Between my struggling and MIL, DS is having too much rubbish food and TV. When I’m fit and well, I play games, do crafts, take DS out etc and cook from scratch. I’m trying to make sure he has a varied diet and is exposed to lots of tastes and healthy food from an early age. In fact even when I’m not well I’m still doing this and making myself ill as I feel I have to compensate for the time he’s spending with her.

I don’t understand why MIL can’t do the same as me when I’m well as she is a fit 61 year old. I just don’t think it should be so hard to keep a toddler entertained without TV for 4 hours. If it was occasionally or once a week I wouldn’t blink an eye but it is every time without fail. DH has made some subtle hints that we have noticed her routine is TV and oven food and we’re not thrilled but she was defensive and hasn’t changed her behaviour.

YABU - You’re getting free childcare, you can’t set terms. Keep quiet.

YANBU - It’s only 4 hours. She shouldn’t be relying on rubbish food and TV. Especially when it’s taking all the ‘shortcuts’ from you when you spend the most time with him and need it due to your health condition. DH should say something - again!

OP posts:
BodyKeepingScore · 09/01/2025 14:58

@Chilliinitiative "MIL is retired. Therefore I also resent it a little bit that I have to juggle a job, being a Mum and also sort food for when she has a lot more free time and better health than I do. "

This is very telling. Your MIL has done her time of juggling and preparing meals for young children. Your life choices shouldn't mean that she has to do it all again in her 60s.

She's earned her free time.

Ultimately, if you don't agree with how she's caring for your child, or trust her to make good decisions around his care, then you'll have to pay for childcare just like most other working parents in the UK. Take it or leave it.

OneEdgyScroller · 09/01/2025 14:58

Hire care for him instead of MIL and pack his meal. Or live with what you described. I know you appreciate the care MIL is providing, but it does come with strings, in this case TV and easier meals. It isnt the end of the world.

WhatFlavourIsIt · 09/01/2025 14:56

Yes, you say thank you and be glad your Ds is lucky enough to spend time with his grandma.

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/01/2025 14:56

So if your husband cooks from scratch several times each week, it’s really not that big an issue, is it, two nugget meals?

QuimCarrey · 09/01/2025 14:55

Howisitnotobvious · 09/01/2025 14:54

MN is also the place of the low bar OP. I completely agree the way your MIL is providing care should be reserved for when necessary and processed food and TV should be seen as back ups/in desperation. Unfortunately poor parenting choices have been normalised for the convenience of adults in the West, which is why obesity has become so bad in the last 30 years.

The key word in your post is 'parenting'. MIL isn't doing that. She's not a parent.

Gremlins101 · 09/01/2025 14:55

OP, I understand why you don't like too much screen time and oven ready food.
But I would really let it go. She sounds like a lovely granny and that is really all, and I mean all, that matters. My MIL is hopeless, provides almost no childcare, but when she does rarely agree to help, I just take what I can get.

coxesorangepippin · 09/01/2025 14:54

I'd give my right arm for a granny like that

Howisitnotobvious · 09/01/2025 14:54

MN is also the place of the low bar OP. I completely agree the way your MIL is providing care should be reserved for when necessary and processed food and TV should be seen as back ups/in desperation. Unfortunately poor parenting choices have been normalised for the convenience of adults in the West, which is why obesity has become so bad in the last 30 years.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 09/01/2025 14:54

You're not very grateful but hugely ungrateful. Especially the bit about shortcuts being saved for you 🙄

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:53

Also before any more DH bashing - I know most men posted about on here are absolutely vile incompetent toerags….My DH is honestly a saint. He cooks several healthy meals from scratch every week. He does work late so this makes it tricky with bedtime but if I’m ill it has to be a late bedtime sometimes. He has a lot on his plate with his work, a chronically ill wife and a toddler and he does far more than his share. He couldn’t do any more in all
honesty.

OP posts:
QuimCarrey · 09/01/2025 14:53

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:48

Wow so many replies already!

I do pay for childcare most of the week. Obviously MIL is saving us money by having him and I do appreciate that. I could pay more and put him in nursery full time. However there are always politics around this as MIL would definitely be offended and would miss her time with DS.

I have pre-made and sent food over in the past. She’s put it in the fridge and then ‘forgot’ about it.

MIL is retired. Therefore I also resent it a little bit that I have to juggle a job, being a Mum and also sort food for when she has a lot more free time and better health than I do.

I do think lots of posters haven’t quite grasped the reality of living with a chronic illness. I’m not hypocritical for giving DS TV and easy food. I’m disabled I sometimes have no choice.

I am very grateful for all the money it saves and I’m so glad DS is loved. It’s just frustrating because DS is asking for TV more and more. We have been playing with toys and playing games, doing crafts, reading books and every 10 minutes he’s been asking for the TV. It just makes me sad. His appetite for a range of food has also narrowed lately.

OK, so your issue with the food is more that she refuses to give him things you send? You'd have got a more sympathetic hearing then.

But you're still BU generally. It's free childcare and however good a reason you have for needing shortcuts, that doesn't oblige her to provide you with what amounts to a full day a week to your specifications, for nothing.

HowToSaveAWife · 09/01/2025 14:52

I have a chronic illness, two toddlers and no additional help.

Unclench.

Seriously.

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/01/2025 14:52

MIL is retired. Therefore I also resent it a little bit that I have to juggle a job, being a Mum and also sort food for when she has a lot more free time and better health than I do.

You've just lost me. She was a working mum too. She did her bit raising your partner. She has free time because she’s retired, as you will be one day. She’s entitled to spend all day watching TV if she so chooses

Will you be giving two free afternoons each week if you become a grandparent?

You seem to think she somehow owes you? She really doesn’t.

Do you have parents? Where are they in this?

ExhaustedGoose · 09/01/2025 14:51

I was with you until you said his appetite has narrowed. MIL is feeding him 2 out of 21 meals per week, that isn't going to impact his tastebuds. Are you reducing the number or variety of meals you offer? It's a vicious circle if he's getting 'fussy' and you then reduce the offering to what he'll eat.

WilfredsPies · 09/01/2025 14:50

She’s 61. You chase around after a toddler for four hours when you’re 61 and tell me how you get on. I’m 49 and I have DH doing all of the donkey work and I’m mentally and physically exhausted by the time he goes home.

Less than 8 hours of tv a week is not going to hurt him; it’s CBeebies, she’s not given him a smartphone and helped him to set up a Reddit account. He’s probably cuddled up next to his grandparents enjoying a lot of love and attention. And if you don’t like what she’s feeding him then either send food with him or cook for him when he gets home. You are being really silly here and you’re potentially going to ruin a lovely relationship. She’s his grandmother, not your au pair.

TheCompactPussycat · 09/01/2025 14:50

ThejoyofNC · 09/01/2025 14:23

So it's alright for him to eat junk when it makes your life easier, but not when it makes life easier for MIL who is doing you a huge favour?

30 minutes of screen time with his granny twice a week is going to do him no harm at all.

You sound ungrateful.

This!

Neither you, nor your DH, sound in the slightest bit grateful.

BeensOnToost · 09/01/2025 14:50

Tv that your child is actively watching as an activity is no big deal imo. Its a few gourd max during the overall week.

Oven food - sorry but if you can't do fresh all the time you can't judge MIL. I'd recommend a jacket potato or porridge with berries next time you're feeling knackered to cancel out the MIL oven food. I am sympathetic but you need to be realistic about what you can control amd recognise that you either trust MIL or you don't and plan accordingly.

Miepmiep · 09/01/2025 14:49

YABU. She is doing you a favour with free childcare. The “shortcuts” should be prioritised for her.

If you don’t want to or can’t pay for childcare, can you batch cook and freeze some preprepared food for her to reheat (and for you to use when you are unwell)? There are plenty of quick and easy healthy meals. Just ask for ideas on here. Or buy the food you want him to eat, just make sure it is something she can just throw in the oven or microwave eg a chicken breast rather than chicken nuggets with salad, veg sticks or frozen veg,

Too much screen time isn’t ideal but you could ask her to choose educational shows. You could set up an account for your DC on whatever subscription you have with the shows you prefer set as favourites. Have you tried audiobooks or a Toniebox as an alternative to screen time at home? Even with a lot of screen time at your MIL’s, he will be getting a lot more 1 to 1 time with her than he would do at nursery so it’s swings and roundabouts.

Is there a class or play group she would be happy to take him to (if you pay)? That might make her life easier. I’m younger than her and entertaining a toddler for 8 hours a week is hard work! I find going out is much easier than staying in.

BlackStrayCat · 09/01/2025 14:49

Ridiculous. Of course YABU.

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:48

Wow so many replies already!

I do pay for childcare most of the week. Obviously MIL is saving us money by having him and I do appreciate that. I could pay more and put him in nursery full time. However there are always politics around this as MIL would definitely be offended and would miss her time with DS.

I have pre-made and sent food over in the past. She’s put it in the fridge and then ‘forgot’ about it.

MIL is retired. Therefore I also resent it a little bit that I have to juggle a job, being a Mum and also sort food for when she has a lot more free time and better health than I do.

I do think lots of posters haven’t quite grasped the reality of living with a chronic illness. I’m not hypocritical for giving DS TV and easy food. I’m disabled I sometimes have no choice.

I am very grateful for all the money it saves and I’m so glad DS is loved. It’s just frustrating because DS is asking for TV more and more. We have been playing with toys and playing games, doing crafts, reading books and every 10 minutes he’s been asking for the TV. It just makes me sad. His appetite for a range of food has also narrowed lately.

OP posts:
NiftyKoala · 09/01/2025 14:48

Pigeonqueen · 09/01/2025 14:21

2 afternoons a week? You need to let it go.

This. My dd is 14 and still remembers fondly the kid cuisine frozen meal my dad would get her. As long as you are feeding her healthy food the majority of the time a few treat days are fine. If that doesn't work for you then you need to sort paid childcare some where else.

Needmorelego · 09/01/2025 14:47

Breathe in.
Breathe out.
Let this go.

Whoarethoseguys · 09/01/2025 14:47

You are being extremely precious. Watching some TV (assuming it's children's TV and not something completely inappropriate) isn't going to hurt your child. You might be surprised to know that nurseries also let children watch children's TV sometimes. And neither is having chicken nuggets and chips. When he goes to school he will have that sort of food every day!
Your mother in law is doing you a massive favour. If you don't like the way she cares for your child you will have to find alternative arrangements. Perhaps hire a nanny?

Dweetfidilove · 09/01/2025 14:46

ThejoyofNC · 09/01/2025 14:23

So it's alright for him to eat junk when it makes your life easier, but not when it makes life easier for MIL who is doing you a huge favour?

30 minutes of screen time with his granny twice a week is going to do him no harm at all.

You sound ungrateful.

My thoughts exactly.

My daughter enjoyed those evenings with my mom watching rubbish tv. She's 16 and that's where she goes to watch rubbish (in my mind) and get utterly spoiled. The relationship she has with my parents though is beautiful, and I'm glad I didn't spoil it with unnecessary problems.

NoahsTortoise · 09/01/2025 14:46

I do know what you mean OP as my DD2 goes to my parents twice a week too and they can be like this, every time I pick her up she is in front of the TV, which is not my approach at all. They also feed her things I wouldn't give her/more of things I keep for treats, which obviously isn't ideal.

But ultimately I understand it's hard work looking after a toddler and they are grandparents and not her parents, so they want to feed her things they know she'll eat and keep her happy. So I think as long as you think MIL is interacting with him along the way and is keeping him safe I don't think you should complain.

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