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DMIL giving TV time and oven food for toddler - should I say anything?

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Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:14

Name changed as outing.

DMIL looks after DS (20 months) 2 afternoons a week (about 4 hours each time). I know the mumsnet consensus is that no one is entitled to childcare from grandparents so I’d like to point out that I am very grateful for this.

The issue I have is that DS always comes home from there having watched what seems to be a lot of TV. He has started saying the names of lots of TV programmes we have never showed him. DMIL also sometimes brags that they ‘only’ watched 30 mins today. It worries me how much they are watching normally. DH and I are aware that some screen time won’t do any harm and is almost unavoidable in this day and age but also the studies show it should be limited and also DS is still very young. We’re very against DS getting a tablet for example.

MIL also only feeds DS oven food like chicken nuggets and chips, despite cooking for herself and FIL the rest of the week. We’ve said on many occasions that DS can eat whatever MIL and FIL are eating but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

Another factor that complicates matters is that I have a health condition that sometimes means I do struggle. These ‘shortcuts’ in my eyes such as easy food and TV should ideally be reserved for when I’m struggling, (MIL is aware this happens regularly).

Between my struggling and MIL, DS is having too much rubbish food and TV. When I’m fit and well, I play games, do crafts, take DS out etc and cook from scratch. I’m trying to make sure he has a varied diet and is exposed to lots of tastes and healthy food from an early age. In fact even when I’m not well I’m still doing this and making myself ill as I feel I have to compensate for the time he’s spending with her.

I don’t understand why MIL can’t do the same as me when I’m well as she is a fit 61 year old. I just don’t think it should be so hard to keep a toddler entertained without TV for 4 hours. If it was occasionally or once a week I wouldn’t blink an eye but it is every time without fail. DH has made some subtle hints that we have noticed her routine is TV and oven food and we’re not thrilled but she was defensive and hasn’t changed her behaviour.

YABU - You’re getting free childcare, you can’t set terms. Keep quiet.

YANBU - It’s only 4 hours. She shouldn’t be relying on rubbish food and TV. Especially when it’s taking all the ‘shortcuts’ from you when you spend the most time with him and need it due to your health condition. DH should say something - again!

OP posts:
mainecooncatonahottinroof · 14/01/2025 22:44

SALaw · 14/01/2025 22:35

@mainecooncatonahottinroof well, exactly. Why would that be concerning?!

OK, get you now!

SALaw · 14/01/2025 22:35

@mainecooncatonahottinroof well, exactly. Why would that be concerning?!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 14/01/2025 22:30

SALaw · 14/01/2025 22:24

Yes you should be EXTREMELY concerned by this very unusual behaviour

Why??

SALaw · 14/01/2025 22:24

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 15:57

Also - has anyones child asked for the TV on repeatedly? Sometimes he does it as soon as he wakes up it’s his waking words. Should I be concerned about that? He’s been asking all day today no matter what I try and do with him. Hence me posting.

Yes you should be EXTREMELY concerned by this very unusual behaviour

SALaw · 14/01/2025 22:19

Dear god

Mummyto7lovelife · 14/01/2025 22:15

As a mother with pulmonary artery stenosis dignoised after birth just be greatful for the childcare and happy he is fed and had wonderful grandparenting time my children, have never had that / I've never had the support.
You could always look at different childcare arrangements make some fresh food to heat for him for at their home.

Mummyto7lovelife · 14/01/2025 22:15

As a mother with pulmonary artery stenosis dignoised after birth just be greatful for the childcare and happy he is fed and had wonderful grandparenting time my children, have never had that / I've never had the support.
You could always look at different childcare arrangements make some fresh food to heat for him for at their home.

Botanybaby · 14/01/2025 21:48

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:59

I am absolutely prepared to offer childcare for my grandchildren in the future and I will absolutely entertain them without screens as much as I can rather than treat them as a default. I would much rather have a giggle with my grandchild over a game and make memories going out somewhere than scroll on my phone whilst they watch TV. And I’ll easily be able to prepare some health food options before they arrive!

But I am obviously being unreasonable. My standards are obviously too high and I can’t expect them of anyone else.

This makes me laugh

You say your so ill you struggle to deal with your own child and will potentially resort to a fish fingers or nuggets for tea which means your mother in law isn't permitted to use them ...but you think you'll have the energy as a pensioner to play and giggle and enjoy games with future grands when you can't even muster up energy tonvook something you think your mil should cook

Botanybaby · 14/01/2025 21:39

If you don't like the free childcare and food provided for your crotch fruit

Pay a nanny or a nursery

If you can't do that suck it up

Jumpingoffthefence · 14/01/2025 21:15

You are being very unreasonable and borderline controlling. Be grateful he is loved and cared for.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 14/01/2025 20:52

BluntLemonDreamer · 14/01/2025 20:19

Wow, so many judgemental posters.

@Chilliinitiative I totally understand where you're coming from. I think it's great your DMIL wants to spend time with her DGS. I think it should be noted that whilst yes she is doing you a favour, she wants to have your child. Just because she is watching your child, though, doesn't mean she can completely disregard your wishes.

Your DH sounds like a great guy who is happy to just chip and work as a team. I'd defo ask him to speak to them again, but as others have said, the likelihood of them listening seems to be slim. I guess you just need to weigh up whether you want to continue this way or maybe cut the days down to one and up his nursery days by one. IMO, YANBU but whether things change or not is another thing.

Good luck!

"Judgemental" for good reason!!

TheFairMintWriter · 14/01/2025 20:52

Honestly, let it go. I can see why it would be frustrating but I think you're only options are to let it go, or pay for different childcare. Making up meals in advance for her to give him is a great idea. But don't worry about the TV - you can't ask her to look after him and then dictate what they do together. Let her do it her way.

LuckySantangelo35 · 14/01/2025 20:32

BluntLemonDreamer · 14/01/2025 20:19

Wow, so many judgemental posters.

@Chilliinitiative I totally understand where you're coming from. I think it's great your DMIL wants to spend time with her DGS. I think it should be noted that whilst yes she is doing you a favour, she wants to have your child. Just because she is watching your child, though, doesn't mean she can completely disregard your wishes.

Your DH sounds like a great guy who is happy to just chip and work as a team. I'd defo ask him to speak to them again, but as others have said, the likelihood of them listening seems to be slim. I guess you just need to weigh up whether you want to continue this way or maybe cut the days down to one and up his nursery days by one. IMO, YANBU but whether things change or not is another thing.

Good luck!

@BluntLemonDreamer

the grandma isn’t doing her grandson harm whatsoever though, so what needs to change ?

BluntLemonDreamer · 14/01/2025 20:19

Wow, so many judgemental posters.

@Chilliinitiative I totally understand where you're coming from. I think it's great your DMIL wants to spend time with her DGS. I think it should be noted that whilst yes she is doing you a favour, she wants to have your child. Just because she is watching your child, though, doesn't mean she can completely disregard your wishes.

Your DH sounds like a great guy who is happy to just chip and work as a team. I'd defo ask him to speak to them again, but as others have said, the likelihood of them listening seems to be slim. I guess you just need to weigh up whether you want to continue this way or maybe cut the days down to one and up his nursery days by one. IMO, YANBU but whether things change or not is another thing.

Good luck!

DancingOctopus · 14/01/2025 19:48

I remember staying with my parents with my very precious first born. We went to a supermarket and then to a cafe. They bought His Royal Preciousness chips.
In my head I was freaking out.
Then I thought " For God's sake, get a grip of yourself" and so I did.
When I was being particularly ridiculous, my Dad liked to remind me that my Grandfather was one of eleven.
Relax, TV and chicken nuggets at Grandma's won't hurt your child and they should develop a lovely relationship.

JumboMumbo3467 · 14/01/2025 19:44

I am 55 and regularly look after young children. At 55 it is a lot more tiring than when I was 25 or 35. With my own children I put in 100% and always went above and beyond.

It’s very easy for you to complain and find fault in your mil and I know I did the same with my mum and mil because my standards were so high. However, things change as you get older, you don’t remember all the things you used to do, you lack the same confidence and knowledge because you are at a different point in life. The accepted norms are different (maybe mil always gave your dh easy foods and put in front of telly), you aren’t as physically able as you used to be.

Try to remember that mil is not your child’s mum and will not act as you would. Appreciate what she does do and that she is there for you and your child, though you may not always agree with everything she does.

Jennaxoxox · 14/01/2025 19:41

When grandparents took my kids I would never have controlled what they do, and I would never have commented on the food they were fed 😳😳

My youngest wouldnt eat hardly anything when he was small, his diet of pancakes, potato waffles and chicken dippers did him no harm 🤣

Also most kids programs are actually very educational. My kids watched loads of the Disney ones and they learned tons of things

GrandmotherStillLearning · 14/01/2025 19:15

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:14

Name changed as outing.

DMIL looks after DS (20 months) 2 afternoons a week (about 4 hours each time). I know the mumsnet consensus is that no one is entitled to childcare from grandparents so I’d like to point out that I am very grateful for this.

The issue I have is that DS always comes home from there having watched what seems to be a lot of TV. He has started saying the names of lots of TV programmes we have never showed him. DMIL also sometimes brags that they ‘only’ watched 30 mins today. It worries me how much they are watching normally. DH and I are aware that some screen time won’t do any harm and is almost unavoidable in this day and age but also the studies show it should be limited and also DS is still very young. We’re very against DS getting a tablet for example.

MIL also only feeds DS oven food like chicken nuggets and chips, despite cooking for herself and FIL the rest of the week. We’ve said on many occasions that DS can eat whatever MIL and FIL are eating but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

Another factor that complicates matters is that I have a health condition that sometimes means I do struggle. These ‘shortcuts’ in my eyes such as easy food and TV should ideally be reserved for when I’m struggling, (MIL is aware this happens regularly).

Between my struggling and MIL, DS is having too much rubbish food and TV. When I’m fit and well, I play games, do crafts, take DS out etc and cook from scratch. I’m trying to make sure he has a varied diet and is exposed to lots of tastes and healthy food from an early age. In fact even when I’m not well I’m still doing this and making myself ill as I feel I have to compensate for the time he’s spending with her.

I don’t understand why MIL can’t do the same as me when I’m well as she is a fit 61 year old. I just don’t think it should be so hard to keep a toddler entertained without TV for 4 hours. If it was occasionally or once a week I wouldn’t blink an eye but it is every time without fail. DH has made some subtle hints that we have noticed her routine is TV and oven food and we’re not thrilled but she was defensive and hasn’t changed her behaviour.

YABU - You’re getting free childcare, you can’t set terms. Keep quiet.

YANBU - It’s only 4 hours. She shouldn’t be relying on rubbish food and TV. Especially when it’s taking all the ‘shortcuts’ from you when you spend the most time with him and need it due to your health condition. DH should say something - again!

To be fair I'm 58 next month and have grandchildren 1 at a time regularly for a night or two.
It's exhausting ! Irrespective if we present fit and well.
The actual parenting is down to who the children live with.
If they come here it's my rules or they dont come ( within reason of course ) but pizza and chicken is a thing here and screen time after a day out is a thing here.
I understand you are poorly as one of mine has chronic fatigue and a few other challenges but for sure she does the same on those times of a flare.
If you want great nutrition and the wonders of nature. Pay for an au pair is the answer.

Griff1963 · 14/01/2025 19:04

She is from a different generation, lighten up!

mezlou84 · 14/01/2025 17:40

Research says TV isn't good for them. Hmmmm this is correct for some children my 2.5yr old has seen many professionals in his short life and all have said how great the TV is for him. Speech and language even praise what we watch and say how great it is for him so don't dismiss the TV. Yes for the full 4 hrs Tv is might be bad for him but realistically he's not going to be watching it 100% of the time he's there. Reserving it for just when you're poorly and dictating what she does in her own house is bordering on being way over protective and helicopter parenting. It's suffocating. Now if it wasn't ages appropriate then I would be saying ynbu but it isn't, your child is loved and cared for appropriately. Chicken nuggets and chips won't hurt twice a week. When he gets into reception and stays all day guess what is on the dinner lists once a week 😂. You get sausage and mash, chicken nuggets and chips, even the odd burger etc, mind they add veg on the plate but mostly goes uneaten. You need to look at it all in prospective and if you actually was there and did a stopwatch of what he watched I bet most of the time it doesn't even add up to half the amount of time. Take him pre prepared food and she can give him that but twice a week treat isn't bad.

mummybear35 · 14/01/2025 16:37

I never restricted both my kids from watching tv, in fact some of the children’s programs at that time were very educational. I also did not set strict time guidelines for screen time when they were older…both mine are now 18 and 22, kind, considerate, very sociable and A* achieving kids..so despite mainstream media telling everyone that screen time creates problems, I think more emphasis should be put on things the kids do other than screen time, mine did hours of outdoor play, competitive sports as they got older and we did a lot of family activities like walking, cycling, hiking etc…

if you in laws are helping you out with childcare, I’d just be grateful and not pick a fight over such trivial things! Also a fed child is a happy child so perhaps they’re not making home cooked food but as long as the food is not horrendously processed, what’s the issue? I think you need to pick your battles and accept the fact that you can’t be in control all the time of what they eat or watch..

Scottsy200 · 14/01/2025 15:44

Jesus Christ this is a proper Mumsnet post 🤣 how about you remove the stick from your arse and just be grateful

TV and OVEN FOOD - THE HORROR

Pherian · 14/01/2025 15:22

I think you’re being unreasonable and unrealistic.

There is no harm coming to your child. None whatsoever. You being this uptight is completely unnecessary.

If you say anything to your MIL then you’re just going to cause problems.

And if you keep on like this eventually you’ll have issues with your kid as well.

CosyLemur · 14/01/2025 14:42

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:48

Wow so many replies already!

I do pay for childcare most of the week. Obviously MIL is saving us money by having him and I do appreciate that. I could pay more and put him in nursery full time. However there are always politics around this as MIL would definitely be offended and would miss her time with DS.

I have pre-made and sent food over in the past. She’s put it in the fridge and then ‘forgot’ about it.

MIL is retired. Therefore I also resent it a little bit that I have to juggle a job, being a Mum and also sort food for when she has a lot more free time and better health than I do.

I do think lots of posters haven’t quite grasped the reality of living with a chronic illness. I’m not hypocritical for giving DS TV and easy food. I’m disabled I sometimes have no choice.

I am very grateful for all the money it saves and I’m so glad DS is loved. It’s just frustrating because DS is asking for TV more and more. We have been playing with toys and playing games, doing crafts, reading books and every 10 minutes he’s been asking for the TV. It just makes me sad. His appetite for a range of food has also narrowed lately.

He's 20 months old; that's what happens. They start getting their own opinions, they start becoming "fussy" eaters they ask for more of what they want.

You're the parent you can say no to these things, and you can keep offering the foods they used to eat but now reject.

Gardenbird123 · 14/01/2025 14:39

Maybe she finds it harder to cook when the toddler is around? She might prefer to be supervising him. Oven food is still better than fast food or no food. Send him with a bag of fruit to counter balance it.
Some TV twice a week will do no harm.
We all have high standards which we set ourselves but sometimes have to let go when others are in charge. X