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DMIL giving TV time and oven food for toddler - should I say anything?

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Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 14:14

Name changed as outing.

DMIL looks after DS (20 months) 2 afternoons a week (about 4 hours each time). I know the mumsnet consensus is that no one is entitled to childcare from grandparents so I’d like to point out that I am very grateful for this.

The issue I have is that DS always comes home from there having watched what seems to be a lot of TV. He has started saying the names of lots of TV programmes we have never showed him. DMIL also sometimes brags that they ‘only’ watched 30 mins today. It worries me how much they are watching normally. DH and I are aware that some screen time won’t do any harm and is almost unavoidable in this day and age but also the studies show it should be limited and also DS is still very young. We’re very against DS getting a tablet for example.

MIL also only feeds DS oven food like chicken nuggets and chips, despite cooking for herself and FIL the rest of the week. We’ve said on many occasions that DS can eat whatever MIL and FIL are eating but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

Another factor that complicates matters is that I have a health condition that sometimes means I do struggle. These ‘shortcuts’ in my eyes such as easy food and TV should ideally be reserved for when I’m struggling, (MIL is aware this happens regularly).

Between my struggling and MIL, DS is having too much rubbish food and TV. When I’m fit and well, I play games, do crafts, take DS out etc and cook from scratch. I’m trying to make sure he has a varied diet and is exposed to lots of tastes and healthy food from an early age. In fact even when I’m not well I’m still doing this and making myself ill as I feel I have to compensate for the time he’s spending with her.

I don’t understand why MIL can’t do the same as me when I’m well as she is a fit 61 year old. I just don’t think it should be so hard to keep a toddler entertained without TV for 4 hours. If it was occasionally or once a week I wouldn’t blink an eye but it is every time without fail. DH has made some subtle hints that we have noticed her routine is TV and oven food and we’re not thrilled but she was defensive and hasn’t changed her behaviour.

YABU - You’re getting free childcare, you can’t set terms. Keep quiet.

YANBU - It’s only 4 hours. She shouldn’t be relying on rubbish food and TV. Especially when it’s taking all the ‘shortcuts’ from you when you spend the most time with him and need it due to your health condition. DH should say something - again!

OP posts:
Mandaxx25 · 10/01/2025 18:39

Nobody looks after our kids but myself and my husband so we don't have this problem but I do see exactly what you're saying. Just because she takes him for you doesn't mean you should just have to put up with her going against what you believe in. I don't understand why so many grandparents and aunties/uncles have to be this way. It's respect to do what the parent asks because they're raising their child a certain way and you're just being a pain in the arse about it.
Especially seeing as you have said feed him what you're eating so she's going out of her way to make a separate meal of junk. So if she just did that and gave him the dinner she's made everyone else, you'd be cutting your issue in half immediately and wouldn't have to try to bring balance when you're feeling really unwell. I would never go above a parents wishes no matter how many favours I was doing them. It's just a control thing when people act like this. There's no need for it. The TV thing I would overlook BUT only if he's watching things that are ok to watch. There's so much on TV now that really is not suitable for kids and people argue that it is but my kids wouldn't be watching such shite. She's just being a melter. If I had my nephew to mind I'd do what his mum and dad asked me to do because I love them and care about what they're doing to raise their son right. We won't always agree but I have my own kids and my own ways that are nobodies business. This sort of thing really does my head in.

Ohhbaby · 10/01/2025 18:38

I mean I don't think a 1 year old should be having ANY screen time. And seems research consensus agrees no screen time before 2. It serves no purpose, zero long term benefits.
I wouldn't like it if my mil did this, I would bring it up, and put it very blunt.
Hi mil, we dont want DD having any screen time at all. Doctor's orders.
If she the doesn't want to do it, get paid childcare.. although I would have you know my Dss nursery did screen time as well. I had to move him to a forest kindergarten to stop the screen time. It's just too easy to plop them in front of a screen. ( Same goes for you though, I hear you are struggling, but kids will soon learn to do other things than watch tv).
Do think it's a tiny bit hypocritical of you to use it but then not want your mil to use it.
I feel fair enough to ask it of my mother in law as we don't own a tv and do zero screen time!

Margorett · 10/01/2025 18:36

Oh for goodness sake get a grip !

Brokeandold · 10/01/2025 18:33

Its all a balance, this quality time with the Grandparents is such a special time, if you feel really strongly about your child's diet then maybe provide the food?
When I returned to work after our first child, my DM and DF looked after him for a few days,they came to our house. I would leave a menu plan, I had all the food prepared.
I did this to help them, I am the youngest of 6 , had a fabulous childhood, so i trusted their choices whilst he was in their care.
I didn't work when I had our second, I can't remember what food they ate, probably tonnes of oven food, they watched all sorts of TV too.
Our eldest is 25, working full time, second DS is 22, finished a masters at Oxford, 1st class, now studying a PhD at Edinburgh ( no private school here) so try not to stress too much, your child is thriving I’m sure, surround them with love,
It all works out in the end….

Single50something · 10/01/2025 18:30

Granny time is helping you out. Tv and easy food wouldn't bother me a couple of days a week. Do you always do enriching activities. As the child prob enjoys a bit of downtime watching cbeebies with granny :) Plus you say these things should be saved for when you need the tv help etc..but maybe Granny isn't wanting/able to do stuff all afternoon either.

Xmasxrackers · 10/01/2025 18:30

Chilliinitiative · 09/01/2025 15:57

Also - has anyones child asked for the TV on repeatedly? Sometimes he does it as soon as he wakes up it’s his waking words. Should I be concerned about that? He’s been asking all day today no matter what I try and do with him. Hence me posting.

OP- my child has learned a lot from TV, and can be a brilliant tool for education and communication, and there are recent studies that say TV can be advantageous to children. Cut yourself some slack.

pebbles8811 · 10/01/2025 18:27

@Chilliinitiative ask mil to try yakadee, roots & fruits and me too aswell as something special on bbc iPlayer educational and fun

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/01/2025 18:26

Yabu

But if the food bothers you a lot then get your DH to pre prepare healthy meals and stick them in his mums freezer or in a packed lunch when you send your child to them

Starlight7080 · 10/01/2025 18:26

Did you and your husband never watch tv as a child? Do you not watch it now? If so then fine be super strick about the TV. But really a couple of afternoons a week given the weather is awful is not that bad.
Sounds like you are stressing more then is needed .
Do you have just one child?

Nikki75 · 10/01/2025 18:25

No childminder will love him more than nanny does.
As long as he has a varied diet he will be absolutely fine sometimes we need to choose our arguments.
Maybe suggest outings to the park instead of being indoors if there is one not far away I love doing this with my granddaughter .

oldmoaner · 10/01/2025 18:25

Kids get "spoilt rotten" at nanny's house, everybody knows that. Didn't you OP?
Maybe MIL wants to watch TV, stuff cooked in the oven? What's wrong with that 2 days out of 7? At least it's not deep fried stuff. It's not like it's every day, all day.
Will you be the same when he's at nursery or school, as long as he's happy, healthy, safe and loved chill out and be glad she's kind enough to care for him, a lot of mothers or MIL wouldn't be tied down twice a week count your blessings is my advice.

DeeDoyle · 10/01/2025 18:21

Tbh op I think you are being a little hard on MIL. You say you will do xyz with your grandchildren and make sure they have healthy food etc but and i mean this in the nicest way possible, you have admitted you cant 100% do that with your child due to illness so you may end up doing what she does when the time comes.

I have a disabled daughter and a chronic disability myself so I get the tough days but if hes 80% of the time with u and 20% with her then the good habits he has at home will stick. I think theres an aspect of guilt on your part and there really shouldnt be. All we can do is our best. Let his tv/" junk food" time be a treat at grandmas and if you have to have some easy time at home let it be healthy snacks and educational tv. But dont let this be the hill you die on. X

Sunshine1500 · 10/01/2025 18:20

You need to be more grateful

Hellenhellen · 10/01/2025 18:20

You won’t remember a thing few years ahead. Your kid will be just fine and even better with grandparents love. Just chill and look after yourself 🥰

BettyBardMacDonald · 10/01/2025 18:17

Pay for a babysitter if you want total control.

And if you do use MIL as a free childminder, send food with the child.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 10/01/2025 18:16

ChicLilacSeal · 10/01/2025 18:12

But with screens from very young ages, the onset of MD will potentially be much earlier.

Just as well my mother didn't have screens from very young age...

Iziz · 10/01/2025 18:15

he doesn’t spend that much time with her I would let it go grandparents love to see the happiness and excitement from their grandkids and they love to give treats and allow things that are not allowed at home that’s what makes them grow up loving their grandparents not strict don’t do this and eat that all the time I would let it go .

ChicLilacSeal · 10/01/2025 18:12

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 09/01/2025 20:25

My mother had acute macular degeneration, early onset. She would be 80 now.

I guess she didn't get that from screens then...

How many small children do you get "watching a play"???

But with screens from very young ages, the onset of MD will potentially be much earlier.

Readmorebooks40 · 10/01/2025 18:11

There are plenty of kids who have sensory issues, are neurodiverse or are just fussy and only eat beige food. It should be easy enough to give your little one a variety of fruit and chopped up cucumber etc. A daily multivitamin as well. I understand your frustration. Our in-laws have the kids 2 afternoons and they are given multiple treats. It was especially frustrating when they were babies/toddlers because they weren't even asking for sugar. 🙈 However we are so so lucky to have them. Kids are really hard work & we will take and appreciate any help we can get. My kids love TV but they also have plenty of times to play, craft, read and get out and about. With the first child you worry about everything. The second you'll be throwing them a McDonald's and an iPad before they can walk. 😂

Bugbabe1970 · 10/01/2025 18:11

It’s hard work looking after a toddler when you’re a granny!
I’m only 54 and a child care practitioner and after having my grandson for hours we sometimes end up watching telly and eating chicken nuggets! It will have absolutely no bearing on the rest of his life apart from having happy memories spent with his grandparents! Don’t start dictating on these small issues or you might end up with a bigger one!

lackofvitamindd · 10/01/2025 18:10

Don't like ... send him to nursery!

sophiealice55 · 10/01/2025 18:04

I struggle with the same as my little boy has too much tv/chocolate when at my Mums but she looks after him one full day a week for free so I let it slide as I’m grateful it’s one less nursery day to pay for. I do always send him with a healthy lunch and homemade dinner to balance it out and know she doesn’t let him watch any programs I have asked her not to (peppa for example) . Just have to pick your battles sometimes and if your child is safe and looked after it’s not worth risking that!

Emcolmol · 10/01/2025 18:02

2 afternoons a week isn’t going to hurt your child Nor are chicken nuggets and chips. I think you’re being a bit over the top to be honest. Whilst with nanny then u should accept she will do things her way I have 10 grandchildren and feed them McDonald’s or KFC as a treat when with me. It’s not hurt them lol. You need to relax or reduce ur work hours so she doesn’t have to have ur son. Good childcare is hard to come by, especially being free

Lalsmal · 10/01/2025 18:00

Yes I’m afraid to say I do think you’re being unreasonable. Our 3.5 yr old was at the childminder from the age of 6 months and was basically weaned on oven food and was watching American crap on TV with the other older kids which we were seriously concerned would rot her brain. Fast forward to today and she’s bright, active, healthy, eats a varied diet, can take it or leave TV and had the time of her life with the other kids at the childminder.

what I’m saying, is, I would have given my right arm for her to have the love of a grandparent especially a young one like you have to look after her but ultimately they do turn out ok and what you’re describing won’t do any long-lasting damage although it doesn’t feel like that at the time!

agree with others’ suggestions to bulk freeze and give it to your MIL if it’s such a concern. However problem will be if DS is now used to oven food that’s all he’s going to want when he’s with her :/

Sleepytiredyawn · 10/01/2025 17:56

My son wasn’t brought up on freezer food but as soon as he started childcare, he was refusing the food to begin with, but then he got use to it and you can’t really tell them what to feed the kids. It’s bound to happen at some point and you don’t really have a choice unless you choose to look after them yourself and not work. Even School Dinners are the same.

As for it only being 4 hours, either pack a lunch yourself, put up with it or pay someone else who will only do the same.

As for tv, for 4 hours you would think they would spend that time without the tv.