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Baby crying more than 6 hours

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Lemonicecream · 09/01/2025 01:12

NC for this.

I'm awake and not able to sleep as I this terrible flu bug. Nonetheless I am here cosied up in bed with MN and two cats on my lap for company.

I live with one upstairs neighbour in a maisonette and for the last 6-7 hours their baby has been crying. A really distressed low level wailing. Stops for about 10 minutes and then starts again.

I find baby crying noise extremely distressing and I can't find my headphones. This is in addition to 4 years of no fail morning and evening wailing and crying from their older child. Usually remedied by the parents whooping at the child as a distraction. Obviously doesn't work as the child is probably looking for comfort.

I understand child rearing is hard as I have DC myself and I am a single parent but AIBU to just be at the end of my tether now and want to rip my ears off.

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NikKai · 09/01/2025 08:36

desparateidiot · 09/01/2025 08:25

Either make an anonymous complaint through Childline website or contact social services, I would rather contact someone who will go and check in on the children/parents, than do nothing and find myself sobbing in court in 6 months time that I did nothing and a child has died.

SS are there to help, not just take children away and put them in care. They can support the parents if there is an issue and over guidance and help.

This is the most balanced and to the point advice I have seen on here and is correct - and social services DID take my baby!

But.. that was down to failing on behalf of many other services, not theirs.

They have been amazing helping me and my boy since we came home. I couldn't have coped without them and a year or so later, we only see them every 6 weeks and that ends for good in may. They are Really amazing. (when they get it right at least)

So i 100 percent agree with this

desparateidiot · 09/01/2025 08:25

Either make an anonymous complaint through Childline website or contact social services, I would rather contact someone who will go and check in on the children/parents, than do nothing and find myself sobbing in court in 6 months time that I did nothing and a child has died.

SS are there to help, not just take children away and put them in care. They can support the parents if there is an issue and over guidance and help.

Mamasperspective · 09/01/2025 08:06

How old is baby? My first had colic for 12 weeks, my second had colic for the first 5 months - doctors said there was nothing else we could do to help baby outside of what we were already doing, just ride out the storm.

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 08:04

Moonlightstars · 09/01/2025 07:59

Sadly some people are definitely saying don't report.
As for not reporting for 4 years people don't report for far more than that and with a lot more evidence. I used to work a lot in this area and it shocking what people ignore.

It’s horrible to think that children are suffering and people are ignoring warning signs.
I hope this comes to nothing because I can’t imagine the guilt the OP will feel if there is something actually going on

NikKai · 09/01/2025 08:00

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:48

I’m so glad it’s worked out well. The system is so so broken.
I’m on my own as well and he’s 7 weeks on Friday. So far, we’ve had a 1 week hospital stay, 4 a&e visits, 6 GP appointments and it’s only now that I’ve literally dumped 3 bloody nappies at their feet they’re taking me seriously. Until now, I’ve been written off as a hysterical first time mum (one doctor even mention my single status)

anyway, it sounds like you’re doing a fab job!

Yeah i got the same. I was told constantly crying and feeling like I cant cope all day is normal and we will look at antidepressants in two weeks. Bad decision with my history of mental health. And by the two weeks it was too late. She treated me like i was hysterical too. I hope your situation improves. The system is indeed broken x

Moonlightstars · 09/01/2025 07:59

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:50

I think people are questioning why the OP has sat on the concerns for 4 years if they are genuine.
I don’t think anyone is saying not to report them if they are real concerns.

Sadly some people are definitely saying don't report.
As for not reporting for 4 years people don't report for far more than that and with a lot more evidence. I used to work a lot in this area and it shocking what people ignore.

NikKai · 09/01/2025 07:55

Startinganew32 · 09/01/2025 07:35

Its not good to assume the worst

Actually with child safeguarding that’s exactly what you have to do until the situation is investigated.

I said dont just assume the worst. I didn't say don't act on any possibility of a safeguarding issue. That post i was referring to, i said dont assume the worst re the post full of negative hyperbole like neglect and cry it out and all negative assumptions and nothing about the other possibilities like mine. Its not good to assume like that.

What you can and should do, is make a choice re calling services or for a welfare check, to ensure there are no concerns re abuse or negligence, but also incase the parent/s are struggling.

My point was, balance and context matters. Outcome can be the same re next steps to take. I might have benefited from someone ringing them for me, as I was really struggling as i posted above. But i was never abusive. There are many possibilities. Doesn't change that calling professionals is likely the best option. I never said that. I said not to assume.

And since you are not the person who would be investigating this particular case, it is not your job to assume re safeguarding. Only to make a judgement call that could help a child, or the parent.

pilates · 09/01/2025 07:53

Moonlightstars · 09/01/2025 07:43

How many times in child abuse cases have the neighbours said that they had heard things or worried about children but assumed someone else was dealing with it. If somebody had reported you yes it would have been upsetting, however that doesn't override the importance of the welfare of children. Adults we have to take a bit of criticism or people nosing into our lives to protect our children and others.
Telling people not to report social services is not the way to go. Report social services generally doesn't go anywhere unless there is significant worries but it can help build a picture. So if a health visitor feels something is off alone is unlikely to get social services involved but if there have been reports by neighbours as well that might be sufficient to trigger a visit.

Agree. Sometimes a singular report can be another piece of the puzzle that can help an abused child be rescued. For example; a social worker can receive reports from a teacher, then one from a doctor and finally one from a neighbour. These are all helpful to a social worker who are building a case to instigate an investigation.

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:50

Moonlightstars · 09/01/2025 07:43

How many times in child abuse cases have the neighbours said that they had heard things or worried about children but assumed someone else was dealing with it. If somebody had reported you yes it would have been upsetting, however that doesn't override the importance of the welfare of children. Adults we have to take a bit of criticism or people nosing into our lives to protect our children and others.
Telling people not to report social services is not the way to go. Report social services generally doesn't go anywhere unless there is significant worries but it can help build a picture. So if a health visitor feels something is off alone is unlikely to get social services involved but if there have been reports by neighbours as well that might be sufficient to trigger a visit.

I think people are questioning why the OP has sat on the concerns for 4 years if they are genuine.
I don’t think anyone is saying not to report them if they are real concerns.

JaneBoleynViscountessRochford · 09/01/2025 07:49

NikKai · 09/01/2025 06:44

Wrong. My baby when he was little had a milk allergy which just one of the symptoms is colic, which is hell on earth alone. It didn't matter what i did, how much comfort i gave, calm music, songs, stories, lots of winding, feeding more, feeding less, lots of attempts with meds like anti colic stuff, stuff for tummy acid, all the usual baby meds for wind and unease etc. Nothing worked. I had a breakdown in the end and he was finally diagnosed (noone listened to me until it got to severe mental health concerns) was given milk for cmpa, and the issue went away gradually. Prior to that it was weeks of noone listening to me, telling me colic was normal, this would pass and so on. No matter how many professionals i begged (literally) and told that it wasn't normal.

If you would have lived under me, you would have heard my baby screaming for hours. What you wouldnt have heard because it's quiet, was the love, cuddles, singing, bicycle legs and other wind removing attempts, stories, meds I tried, the list goes on.

Im not saying these parents arent being neglectful or that this is normal. Just that your assumptions that they are doing cry it out, or ignoring their baby, are neglectful, and the other hyperbolic comments you made are the extreme end, one end of possibilities. There are other possibilities. Like mine. Its not nice to assume the worst from people. I was so poorly by the end that I was sectioned and my baby taken because i couldn't take it anymore, there was nothing left to try. Cue the next year of court, a mother and baby unit for parental assessment, which in their words i passed with flying colours, and finally getting my baby back home with lots of the support i had initially begged for.

Its not good to assume the worst

Yes my second was a high needs baby who cried and cried and cried. Didn’t sleep. Nothing anyone could do we tried everything, she was even brought my no nonsense can handle anything MIL to her knees.

Even she probably never managed 6 hours straight crying though.

It doesn’t hurt to get a welfare check though, there are so many stories of children being neglected so better safe than sorry.

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:48

NikKai · 09/01/2025 07:43

Haha they would never leave my door if i was reported for the weird shit i yell and say to mine, playing. He LOVES it when i shout "right, come ere you, yer done for, im comin for ya, ya better run" laughs his head off while i chase him haha

Bless him!

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:48

NikKai · 09/01/2025 07:34

Thank you. It was. I could tell the whole story and you would be shocked and horrified, it was disgusting how we were treated.

But now, my little monkey is 20 months, in nursery twice a week paid for by local authority to give me respite (i have no family or friends and his dad never met him, took me a year but finally just found the fucker for child maintenance 🎉) so i really need that time. I have therapy paid for by them whilst im on the waiting list for trauma therapy due to my terrible childhood and my baby being taken, im on meds, and i have professional support. Ironically, these were all the things I was asking for before it ever got to the terrible place it did. I was told my expectations were unrealistic. So me and my baby went through hell to get.. Exactly what I asked for and needed.

Anyway we just moved to a new 2 bed home, fresh start. And my boy is doing exceptionally well. Hes so happy, nursery, health visitor, social worker, mental health nurse and family intervention worker all constantly compliment me on my parenting and how happy he is. Hes such a joy. I went to get his pics taken yesterday, did them before he was taken, and plan to do them once a year. It was impossible to choose but the one I did choose just wow.. The smile and pure joy in his eyes.. He amazes me. The woman who works there knows my story and she knew i was struggling to choose (no idea how I made such an amazing and beautiful and photogenic baby!) and she printed off a copy of two of the other shots i was considering, for free. Its kindness like that, that make me feel less of a failure, less ashamed, it lifts my spirits, and warms my broken heart. And it is broken. You never forget your baby being taken from you. I wish I could post a pic of him so you could see just how healthy happy and beautiful he is, and that is all down to me. Weird and uncomfortable to say nice things about myself but it's the truth. I am not perfect but I am an excellent mother to a beautiful baby.

Sorry for the derail. Things like this, context is important. If its a pattern as they did with the older one, and you hear screaming and swearing and shouting, and other things, then of course you act. Even if you dont hear those things, you can still call services or welfare check, as they may need extra support.

Just dont assume

I’m so glad it’s worked out well. The system is so so broken.
I’m on my own as well and he’s 7 weeks on Friday. So far, we’ve had a 1 week hospital stay, 4 a&e visits, 6 GP appointments and it’s only now that I’ve literally dumped 3 bloody nappies at their feet they’re taking me seriously. Until now, I’ve been written off as a hysterical first time mum (one doctor even mention my single status)

anyway, it sounds like you’re doing a fab job!

NikKai · 09/01/2025 07:43

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:21

I was under the same impression. I make some very weird noises to distract my baby. I’d love to be reported to SS for them lol

Haha they would never leave my door if i was reported for the weird shit i yell and say to mine, playing. He LOVES it when i shout "right, come ere you, yer done for, im comin for ya, ya better run" laughs his head off while i chase him haha

Moonlightstars · 09/01/2025 07:43

QueSyrahSyrah · 09/01/2025 03:20

My 7 month old has the flu / covid that you have, coupled with teething. Consequently he's been crying much more than usual as he's uncomfortable and distressed. Not 6-7 hours straight but significantly more than he does in a normal day. I hope my neighbours aren't mulling publicly over whether to report us to social services while stuffing their faces with cheese and crackers.

How many times in child abuse cases have the neighbours said that they had heard things or worried about children but assumed someone else was dealing with it. If somebody had reported you yes it would have been upsetting, however that doesn't override the importance of the welfare of children. Adults we have to take a bit of criticism or people nosing into our lives to protect our children and others.
Telling people not to report social services is not the way to go. Report social services generally doesn't go anywhere unless there is significant worries but it can help build a picture. So if a health visitor feels something is off alone is unlikely to get social services involved but if there have been reports by neighbours as well that might be sufficient to trigger a visit.

BellissimoGecko · 09/01/2025 07:39

onceuponatimelived · 09/01/2025 01:37

Please report them to SS. That does not sound normal or ok! In what world is it ok for a baby to be crying for 6-7 hours? Is an adult even home?!

Do you know the neighbour personally? Do they seem strange? Do their kids look neglected?

It must be awful for you in terms of noise levels but I am very concerned about that poor baby being left to cry for hours!

This.

Especially coming after the older dc crying so much for 4 years too.

YellowDiamondsInTheSky · 09/01/2025 07:38

My second cried for up to 6 hours every day in his first 3 months. Some newborns just cry and cry and it was a stressful and exhausting time. He’s now 1 and super happy and chill.

It never occurred to me that my neighbours might be sitting there considering reporting me to SS because I couldn’t get my newborn to stop crying.

Startinganew32 · 09/01/2025 07:35

Its not good to assume the worst

Actually with child safeguarding that’s exactly what you have to do until the situation is investigated.

NikKai · 09/01/2025 07:34

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:17

I’m so sorry you went through this. Horrific

Thank you. It was. I could tell the whole story and you would be shocked and horrified, it was disgusting how we were treated.

But now, my little monkey is 20 months, in nursery twice a week paid for by local authority to give me respite (i have no family or friends and his dad never met him, took me a year but finally just found the fucker for child maintenance 🎉) so i really need that time. I have therapy paid for by them whilst im on the waiting list for trauma therapy due to my terrible childhood and my baby being taken, im on meds, and i have professional support. Ironically, these were all the things I was asking for before it ever got to the terrible place it did. I was told my expectations were unrealistic. So me and my baby went through hell to get.. Exactly what I asked for and needed.

Anyway we just moved to a new 2 bed home, fresh start. And my boy is doing exceptionally well. Hes so happy, nursery, health visitor, social worker, mental health nurse and family intervention worker all constantly compliment me on my parenting and how happy he is. Hes such a joy. I went to get his pics taken yesterday, did them before he was taken, and plan to do them once a year. It was impossible to choose but the one I did choose just wow.. The smile and pure joy in his eyes.. He amazes me. The woman who works there knows my story and she knew i was struggling to choose (no idea how I made such an amazing and beautiful and photogenic baby!) and she printed off a copy of two of the other shots i was considering, for free. Its kindness like that, that make me feel less of a failure, less ashamed, it lifts my spirits, and warms my broken heart. And it is broken. You never forget your baby being taken from you. I wish I could post a pic of him so you could see just how healthy happy and beautiful he is, and that is all down to me. Weird and uncomfortable to say nice things about myself but it's the truth. I am not perfect but I am an excellent mother to a beautiful baby.

Sorry for the derail. Things like this, context is important. If its a pattern as they did with the older one, and you hear screaming and swearing and shouting, and other things, then of course you act. Even if you dont hear those things, you can still call services or welfare check, as they may need extra support.

Just dont assume

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:21

oakleaffy · 09/01/2025 07:19

I thought Whooping was an American term for hitting- “an ass Whooping” - but in this instance it might be making stupid noises (?) at a child.

I was under the same impression. I make some very weird noises to distract my baby. I’d love to be reported to SS for them lol

oakleaffy · 09/01/2025 07:19

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:12

personally, I’d like to know what a “whoop” is

lets all call SS and tell them we can hear whooping…

I thought Whooping was an American term for hitting- “an ass Whooping” - but in this instance it might be making stupid noises (?) at a child.

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:17

NikKai · 09/01/2025 06:44

Wrong. My baby when he was little had a milk allergy which just one of the symptoms is colic, which is hell on earth alone. It didn't matter what i did, how much comfort i gave, calm music, songs, stories, lots of winding, feeding more, feeding less, lots of attempts with meds like anti colic stuff, stuff for tummy acid, all the usual baby meds for wind and unease etc. Nothing worked. I had a breakdown in the end and he was finally diagnosed (noone listened to me until it got to severe mental health concerns) was given milk for cmpa, and the issue went away gradually. Prior to that it was weeks of noone listening to me, telling me colic was normal, this would pass and so on. No matter how many professionals i begged (literally) and told that it wasn't normal.

If you would have lived under me, you would have heard my baby screaming for hours. What you wouldnt have heard because it's quiet, was the love, cuddles, singing, bicycle legs and other wind removing attempts, stories, meds I tried, the list goes on.

Im not saying these parents arent being neglectful or that this is normal. Just that your assumptions that they are doing cry it out, or ignoring their baby, are neglectful, and the other hyperbolic comments you made are the extreme end, one end of possibilities. There are other possibilities. Like mine. Its not nice to assume the worst from people. I was so poorly by the end that I was sectioned and my baby taken because i couldn't take it anymore, there was nothing left to try. Cue the next year of court, a mother and baby unit for parental assessment, which in their words i passed with flying colours, and finally getting my baby back home with lots of the support i had initially begged for.

Its not good to assume the worst

I’m so sorry you went through this. Horrific

Curly12345 · 09/01/2025 07:12

oakleaffy · 09/01/2025 06:53

@Lemonicecream When my ( good, conscientious) neighbour’s baby cries ( weaning) I used a wonderful brown noise you tube video ( I can’t link to it as away from laptop )
Turn OFF stable volume .

It massively helps drown out the wailing
BUT my neighbours are very good with their children-The parent above you sounds like they need help to care for their child/ren properly.

Social services?

That level of crying is not normal.

Who the heck whoops at a crying baby.

Not very effective.

personally, I’d like to know what a “whoop” is

lets all call SS and tell them we can hear whooping…

Thornybush · 09/01/2025 07:02

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 09/01/2025 06:45

Honestly there's a difference between a baby that's ill and a baby that's being neglected. Are we forgetting all those poor children who have died from neglect and abuse? Who is to say the OP's neighbour won't be another one?

I nearly reported someone last year because the baby was crying for over an hour(I had the form filled out but didn't know the actual house number) and the mother was screaming and yelling, telling it to shut the fuck up. She screams and yells and swears at all her children though, I'm surprised they haven't screamed at her back (they're big enough now). I don't cared how stressed you are there is no excuse to act like that. Wish I had thought of 101 now.

One of my neighbours had a baby, it wouldn't stop crying, the difference in how they dealt with it was huge.

Omg horrific 😢

Thornybush · 09/01/2025 07:01

Oh OP I'd definitely report. Yes it could be an allergy or something but it could also be neglect or worse, abuse. Please call 101. We all have a duty of care.

CouldItBeAnyMoreObvious · 09/01/2025 06:55

onceuponatimelived · 09/01/2025 04:41

Because OP has mentioned in a previous reply that these neighbours have been rude to her several times and she is currently battling with the flu/covid.

When I had flu eating and starting posts on forums were the last things on my mind, let slone getting arsey wit those who asked pertinent qustions