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To think that this is especially scuzzy, even for most dog owners

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PeeWeeTree · 08/01/2025 17:24

Yes, it's a dog one.

I live opposite a green where over the last couple of days, people have been putting out there live (now dead) xmas trees, ready for collection. Looking out of my window, I see a couple walking their dog, sniffing around the trees (fine!), then cock its leg and begin urinating over the trees. Some poor tree collector guy will be along to retrieve these trees, perhaps he is wearing gloves, perhaps not - even if he is, I doubt he'll take them off between pick-ups, meaning he'll be transferring dog piss on the steering wheel.

Or is it no big deal, and the trees may have squirrel pee on them anyway and he'll know it's a dirty job?

YANBU - it's gross and thoughtless
YABU - meh, don't care

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frippit · 08/01/2025 19:30

I worked in country parks for 35 years, now retired. Yes some of our car parks did stink of dog piss, any vegetation left piled up for a day or so was pissed all over and horrible to move. Our vehicle tires, especially land-rover chunky tires would be caked in dog poo, and when we were working out in the park we were very careful to put tools down as dog poo was everywhere.
We provided many bins which filled up quickly with dog poo, and poo bags were discarded everywhere.
This situation became significantly worse over the last 15 years. Dogs and their owners really do dominate our countryside in my area to the detriment of other users.
I was also frequently jumped up at and barked at by uncontrolled dogs and as a consequence have pretty much zero tolerance of most owners and their pooches.

sandyhappypeople · 08/01/2025 19:29

PeeWeeTree · 08/01/2025 18:57

It's not the end of the world, but I think it's inconsiderate and disgusting, aka SCUZZY!

I wish people would toilet their dogs in their own gardens. Why don't they? I also don't like seeing the cocking of legs or the squat.

I wish people would toilet their dogs in their own gardens. Why don't they? I also don't like seeing the cocking of legs or the squat.

so THIS is what it's really about then.. But you said it's opposite a block of flats where people don't have their own gardens? I'm assuming most people walking their dogs round the streets there probably live in the vicinity and don't have their own gardens? If you live opposite the only green space in the area you will see a lot of dogs pissing and shitting unfortunately.

In answer to your question, if I was walking my dog on a lead, I'm quite selective as to what he pisses up, especially when walking on pavements, if he is off lead, there isn't an awful lot you can do.

A lot of dog owners don't care what mess their dogs make, so pissing up a discarded christmas tree won't even be on their radar, but those same people probably drop litter and block junctions etc.. being inconsiderate doesn't stop at dog mess, it is best you don't watch them if it really makes you this angry though.

dessicatedlawn · 08/01/2025 19:15

Um - no expert, but it is a needly tree, so I don't think they would use their bare hands? So would then be protected from the weeing as well as known characteristic of the tree.

Rollse · 08/01/2025 19:14

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 18:25

I don't believe you.
Outside is not going to be stinking of dog piss, especially this time of year.
The only people I know who who did moan about dog piss smell, were people with several dogs, and a patio, and during heatwaves in the summer. And that is people who let it fester.

Your local park is never going to smell of dog piss. You are making it up. FFS, why do people keep making stuff like this?

What a strange reaction. Unfortunately I’m not making it up. My entire school run reeks of dog piss, and it goes through a park. It is a bit better with the snow, I will admit!

BIossomtoes · 08/01/2025 19:13

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 17:32

People picking up stuff outside wont care. They wear gloves anyway. You are not picking it up, so why do you care?
I think this is just a thinly veiled dog bashing thread.

It’s not even thinly veiled. Just about anything outside will have body fluids from one species or another on it.

Sophiasguitar · 08/01/2025 19:12

Let kids cartwheel in their own garden. Picnic there too. Sorted.

TheWonderhorse · 08/01/2025 19:12

Kashmiri24 · 08/01/2025 19:10

The dog hatred on this thread is strong. The rain washes away dog piss, and what are us dog owners supposed to do? Train them to use a flushing toilet? My little dog is too thick to understand that.

I reckon mine could learn, but only if the cistern was filled with a beef gravy.

Kashmiri24 · 08/01/2025 19:10

The dog hatred on this thread is strong. The rain washes away dog piss, and what are us dog owners supposed to do? Train them to use a flushing toilet? My little dog is too thick to understand that.

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 19:06

PeeWeeTree · 08/01/2025 19:02

Piss on your own lawn. Then the rest of us don't need to worry about where we are laying our picnic blankets or letting our kids do cartwheels.

The outside world is not sterile. Foxes, badgers, rats, birds... they all do their business outside.

When I was kid, I did a load of forward rolls down a a hill, and ended up with a my legs covered in fox poo. Another time, I was outside, and I ended up with a huge bird poo on my face. What did I do? Campaign for no animals outside? Or accept that all sorts of mess is part of being out in the open. Guess what I picked.

PeeWeeTree · 08/01/2025 19:02

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 19:01

How do you pick up piss?

Piss on your own lawn. Then the rest of us don't need to worry about where we are laying our picnic blankets or letting our kids do cartwheels.

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BobbyBiscuits · 08/01/2025 19:02

@WeylandYutani yeah, that was kind of my point.

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 19:01

BobbyBiscuits · 08/01/2025 19:01

@PeeWeeTree you're not wrong. I guess it's just the norm now to let them go in the park. People feel entitled because they're obliged to pick up the poo. But that doesn't account for the piss though. The gardeners will be expecting such things and have PPE and equipment to move the stuff.

How do you pick up piss?

BobbyBiscuits · 08/01/2025 19:01

@PeeWeeTree you're not wrong. I guess it's just the norm now to let them go in the park. People feel entitled because they're obliged to pick up the poo. But that doesn't account for the piss though. The gardeners will be expecting such things and have PPE and equipment to move the stuff.

Mrsttcno1 · 08/01/2025 18:59

PeeWeeTree · 08/01/2025 18:57

It's not the end of the world, but I think it's inconsiderate and disgusting, aka SCUZZY!

I wish people would toilet their dogs in their own gardens. Why don't they? I also don't like seeing the cocking of legs or the squat.

I think it’s best you just stay indoors 🤣🤣🤣

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 18:59

PeeWeeTree · 08/01/2025 18:57

It's not the end of the world, but I think it's inconsiderate and disgusting, aka SCUZZY!

I wish people would toilet their dogs in their own gardens. Why don't they? I also don't like seeing the cocking of legs or the squat.

If you don't like seeing dogs pee, then DON'T LOOK. It is that simple.

PeeWeeTree · 08/01/2025 18:57

BobbyBiscuits · 08/01/2025 18:55

They are gardeners/arborists by trade. They wear PPE and assume all the stuff they deal with is covered in animal piss and shit. Because it is.

So I wouldn't say it's the end of the world.

It's not the end of the world, but I think it's inconsiderate and disgusting, aka SCUZZY!

I wish people would toilet their dogs in their own gardens. Why don't they? I also don't like seeing the cocking of legs or the squat.

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BobbyBiscuits · 08/01/2025 18:55

They are gardeners/arborists by trade. They wear PPE and assume all the stuff they deal with is covered in animal piss and shit. Because it is.

So I wouldn't say it's the end of the world.

Ablondiebutagoody · 08/01/2025 18:55

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 18:50

That is literally the same as picking up a needle in a haystack.

Literally? What do you mean? That that's a reasonable amount of shit for a sports pitch?

TheWonderhorse · 08/01/2025 18:53

It's so boring. We just get the same threads all the time. Yes a minority of dog owners are rubbish at picking up shit. The vast majority are fine, because there are a LOT of dogs around and if we didn't almost all pick the shit up we'd all be knee deep by now.

We think the lazy owners are minging too, but rather than talk about the issue, it's always dogs generally and dog owners generally who get the nonsense. My dog is a lovely lad, and I carry his every poo to a bin with pride! Even the dodgy runny ones, and those that contain unrecognisable objects he found in my bin.

You would love him!

AwfullyWeeBillyBigchin · 08/01/2025 18:53

Eyesopenwideawake · 08/01/2025 17:30

Why were the couple sniffing the trees?

This has got me 🤣🤣

Itiswhysofew · 08/01/2025 18:52

Mrsttcno1 · 08/01/2025 18:23

You can’t see a difference between a tree waiting to be sold to go into someone’s home and a tree that’s been literally ditched in a local outdoor area? 😂

I see the difference. I just think it's considerate to not allow your dog to pee on something that'll be handled by someone.

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 18:50

Ablondiebutagoody · 08/01/2025 18:46

I would say that on average I pick up 3 shits every Sunday from a standard rugby pitch.

That is literally the same as picking up a needle in a haystack.

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 18:48

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 08/01/2025 18:46

Christmas trees are a crop, much like any other that is grown. The planting, cultivation and cutting down for Christmas decoration provides plenty of jobs year round.
You could say the same about cut flowers, trees cut down for firewood etc.

That is true!
I like reading about the places that loan you a tree, and take it back to sit in soil and grow more.... year on year until it is "retired".

bouncydog · 08/01/2025 18:47

Worse IMHO is the moron that allowed their dog to mess in the lift on a ferry that was used by disabled people who had no other way of reaching the car deck to leave the ship. Apparently it was just left there for the crew to clean up and any individuals using the lift had to put up with the stench in an enclosed space. Totally disgusting.

Ablondiebutagoody · 08/01/2025 18:46

WeylandYutani · 08/01/2025 18:43

I am still waiting for you to do the maths.

I would say that on average I pick up 3 shits every Sunday from a standard rugby pitch.