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To not go to the races for my friends birthday?

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Bumpnwalk · 08/01/2025 16:02

I was added to a WhatsApp group the other day, created by my friend. She has added about 15 people into it and it’s to discuss the plans for her birthday. She has said that she is organising a day at the races and has told us the cost etc and has asked if we can let her know asap who can make it.

She isn’t my best friend, but is still a friend of mine that I have known for quite a while and I was looking forward to spending her birthday with her. My heart sank because I absolutely do not want to attend the races. Straight away I thought, well I can’t go. But then I thought well maybe I can do it for her, for her birthday, so that I get to celebrate it with her. However, I know for a fact that I will not enjoy the day. I don’t want to put my money into something that I don’t agree with and am morally against. The thought of getting all dressed up and having to watch it makes me feel very uncomfortable. My boyfriend has asked me in the past if I would want to go and I told him I will never attend.

I have been vegan for 8 years and work with animals so I am hoping she will understand. If this was your birthday event, would you be upset/offended/pissed off if one of your friends didn’t attend for this reason? I haven’t replied to the WhatsApp yet but will need to soon as she sent it a few days ago.

OP posts:
thisfilmisboring123 · 08/01/2025 17:54

HereForTheAnimals · 08/01/2025 17:47

The issue with this, having had to decline invitations to the races on many occasions, is people wanting to know why it isn't your thing - for some reason, people can't see the conflict there. Telling people the reason why is not patronising. I don't feel superior to my friends, and to be honest, none of my friends would be offended by my ethical beliefs either.

I struggle to believe many people couldn’t understand why you’d not want to go, maybe the odd thicko, but I’d assume for the vast majority it’s fairly obvious.

I wouldn’t use the word patronising but understand the ‘stick up your arse’ comment, your wording made you sound like you do consider yourself morally superior to others who don’t have the same opinion, I think a simple, ‘I don’t agree with horse racing’ would suffice.

thriftyhen · 08/01/2025 17:54

I think in these situations it is best to be honest as to why you can't attend. Imagine if she makes it an annual event to which you are invited and you are having to come up with excuses for the next 50 years!

Getinther · 08/01/2025 17:51

GasPanic · 08/01/2025 16:22

I mean if you have been friends 10 years then I am surprised she would not know that you might be against it morally if you are a vegan and work with animals.

Can't you just tell her you don't agree with racing because you don't like the idea of horses being hurt, but you'd be happy to go out for a meal/drink with her on another date ?

If she is a good friend she should understand/know it is an important part of your life.

Yea, it is surprising. I wonder if it’s just an oversight on her part? Like once my friend cooked chicken fajitas for me and another friend of ours who is vegetarian. It’s like she knew she was veggie, but it hadn’t clicked. It was a bit of a face palm moment for her.

I think OPs friend will probably apologise and say she feels a bit silly for not thinking it through!

Sapienza · 08/01/2025 17:50

Bumpnwalk · 08/01/2025 16:22

We don’t have that kind of blunt relationship. If she invites me to her birthday and I just say “sorry can’t come, but have a great time” she will absolutely call me or text me to have a chat about it and ask why I can’t come. We aren’t best friends but we are still close enough that she would want me at her birthday. If I tell her I already have something planned, she will probably ask if I can rearrange it (she’s done this before) so I’d have to have a pretty solid lie about something that I absolutely can’t cancel

The amount agonising and fretting in your opening thread alone made it clear why you are the subject to such manipulation.

Just put on you big girl pants and text the following:

Tubetrain · Today 16:26
Dear friend, thanks for the invite - I hope you have an amazing day but I won't be able to join you this time. happy birthday, love

No need for further discussion.

Stirabout · 08/01/2025 17:50

MissysMeemaw · 08/01/2025 17:48

I am also vegan, and wouldn't go - I have been vegan so long, people know not to even bother inviting me to such things - actually, I don't even think I have any friends left who would want to go either.

My SIL arranged greyhound racing for her hen do
think she knew I wouldn’t go ( we don’t get on, she’s not a nice person )
I met up with them after
Maybe suggest this OP, if it’s possible

deeahgwitch · 08/01/2025 17:49

Fluffyholeysocks · 08/01/2025 16:15

Just decline, don't give a reason. It's her birthday, she wants to do it, you're not a best friend so I doubt she would mind as she has invited 15 in the group.

This 💯
Remember it's an invitation not a summons 😀
You don't need to give a reason.
She might feel you are being judgmental.

Sunseaandsand1 · 08/01/2025 17:49

Bumpnwalk · 08/01/2025 16:02

I was added to a WhatsApp group the other day, created by my friend. She has added about 15 people into it and it’s to discuss the plans for her birthday. She has said that she is organising a day at the races and has told us the cost etc and has asked if we can let her know asap who can make it.

She isn’t my best friend, but is still a friend of mine that I have known for quite a while and I was looking forward to spending her birthday with her. My heart sank because I absolutely do not want to attend the races. Straight away I thought, well I can’t go. But then I thought well maybe I can do it for her, for her birthday, so that I get to celebrate it with her. However, I know for a fact that I will not enjoy the day. I don’t want to put my money into something that I don’t agree with and am morally against. The thought of getting all dressed up and having to watch it makes me feel very uncomfortable. My boyfriend has asked me in the past if I would want to go and I told him I will never attend.

I have been vegan for 8 years and work with animals so I am hoping she will understand. If this was your birthday event, would you be upset/offended/pissed off if one of your friends didn’t attend for this reason? I haven’t replied to the WhatsApp yet but will need to soon as she sent it a few days ago.

Another vegan who’s worked with animals for a long time here. I’ve turned down a few invites to horse (& dog) racing in the past. I feel it’s fair to let your friend know why you’re not attending. Just something along the lines of ‘I’m not a fan of horse racing’ & say you’d love to celebrate with her another time/way. Have a read up on some of the research by Animal Aid & League Against Cruel Sports in case your friend asks you why. She might not know about ethical implications of horse racing.

MissysMeemaw · 08/01/2025 17:48

I am also vegan, and wouldn't go - I have been vegan so long, people know not to even bother inviting me to such things - actually, I don't even think I have any friends left who would want to go either.

Avatartar · 08/01/2025 17:47

Just say you don’t enjoy racing and will be declining the offer. I find it’s either freezing or sunburns weather and not much in between. Bad back from wearing heels also day unless you have a guaranteed seat too

Getinther · 08/01/2025 17:47

I’m surprised this is seemingly so hard for some people to just tell the truth to an old friend.

I’d definitely just say briefly - “I can’t make it, as you know I’m both a vegan and animal lover, and it would be massively hypocritical of me to attend as I don’t agree with the it. However, if you’re doing anything else for your birthday let me know. If not we can meet up for coffee and cake at another time”

If she gets offended that’s a reflection on her.

HereForTheAnimals · 08/01/2025 17:47

Hoppinggreen · 08/01/2025 17:44

"not my thing, sorry"
happy to help

The issue with this, having had to decline invitations to the races on many occasions, is people wanting to know why it isn't your thing - for some reason, people can't see the conflict there. Telling people the reason why is not patronising. I don't feel superior to my friends, and to be honest, none of my friends would be offended by my ethical beliefs either.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 08/01/2025 17:47

Say 'I'm sorry I can't make it' in the group chat and when she asks say what Vimesandhiscardboardboots posted 'it's a vegan thing'.

It's true without being judgmental.

Stirabout · 08/01/2025 17:47

Just tell her OP
I wouldn’t go to the races for anyone.
You have a perfectly valid reason

CauliflowerBalti · 08/01/2025 17:45

OnceMoreWithAttitude · 08/01/2025 17:38

Just say “Have a very happy birthday, sending you lots of love. Horse racing not my thing but I’ll be raising a glass to you having a great year”

If she asks further just say ‘it’s not a relationship with animals that I enjoy, an extension of being a vegan I suppose , but no judgement on anyone else, have a great day “ (privately, not in the group chat)

Edited

This is a great response. If it upsets her, she isn't a great friend.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 08/01/2025 17:45

If she asks, just say "It's a vegan thing". This is what my SIL does. People get what she means but it lacks the judgement of "I don't approve of..." or "I don't support ..."

Wonderi · 08/01/2025 17:45

I would definitely not go.

I wouldn’t do anything that goes against my morals.

I don’t watch horse racing either and many of my friends do and they are very respectful of it and gives me a heads up that it will be on Tv etc if I’m planning to go around.

Any friend would absolutely not have an issue with you and your morals.

I would politely decline and say why.

pictoosh · 08/01/2025 17:44

Oh this is difficult. You're stuffed whichever way you look at it.

  1. Go to the races.
  2. Lie about having plans/can't make it. Continue to lie when asked about it.
  3. Tell the truth and risk offending friend.

I'm honest so I'd go for 3. I'd be as diplomatic as possible though. It's difficult to tell someone that their chosen day out compromises your values without sounding judgemental.
It IS risky but better than outright lying and taking your friend for a fool or spending an entire day betraying yourself just to please someone else.

Fwiw, I wouldn't want to go to the races either. It's not just the animal welfare angle, I'm not interested in betting, prosecco or posing in fancy hats either.

Hoppinggreen · 08/01/2025 17:44

HereForTheAnimals · 08/01/2025 16:58

So explain to me why what I suggested to the OP to say was patronising, and tell me how you would deal with it. This will help me in the future to avoid sounding like I have a stick up my arse, and be that annoying vegan.

"not my thing, sorry"
happy to help

Dterun · 08/01/2025 17:42

The Grand National is a 3 day 'festival' with the main race on the final day. Maybe I should have just said 'on average' because between 2000 and 2024 there were three years with no deaths at all.
However for this period there were 65 deaths in total across all festival races. I don't think this is an acceptable number.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 08/01/2025 17:42

Id maybe say i can't make it, as a pp said - no point in starting a debate or making her feel bad about the choice of venue, especially if she's a friend xx

Edited as just seen your other posts

Maybe say gently how much of a friend she is to you but you just can't stomach it, but you'll absolutely find another way to celebrate and expect to see her to give gifts etc x

JRorBobby · 08/01/2025 17:42

Don't lie! It's fine to say "I'm sorry, I can't abide the horse racing industry. I am sorry to not be celebrating with you but I would be so uncomfortable there!"

It's a common outlook, not something to be ashamed of! And the average reasonable person would accept it. It may feel uncomfortable to say but it does not imply you are judging her - your vegan for years - are you taking her over the coals for every pair of leather shoes and handbags she owns? - no - this is not different, it's OK to decline on animal welfare.

Member984815 · 08/01/2025 17:41

Bumpnwalk · 08/01/2025 16:22

We don’t have that kind of blunt relationship. If she invites me to her birthday and I just say “sorry can’t come, but have a great time” she will absolutely call me or text me to have a chat about it and ask why I can’t come. We aren’t best friends but we are still close enough that she would want me at her birthday. If I tell her I already have something planned, she will probably ask if I can rearrange it (she’s done this before) so I’d have to have a pretty solid lie about something that I absolutely can’t cancel

In that case , she knows you're vegan I presume, I'm sure she will understand why you don't want to go , can you call her and explain?

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 08/01/2025 17:40

You can't possibly go to the races feeling as you do, and need to tell her that. Why should you lie about things that matter to you so much? If she's really a friend she'll respect your choice.

AnonymousBleep · 08/01/2025 17:38

Just say the races aren't your thing, what with being vegan etc, but you'll meet them for drinks/dinner afterwards. The races don't last all evening so you should be fine.

OnceMoreWithAttitude · 08/01/2025 17:38

Just say “Have a very happy birthday, sending you lots of love. Horse racing not my thing but I’ll be raising a glass to you having a great year”

If she asks further just say ‘it’s not a relationship with animals that I enjoy, an extension of being a vegan I suppose , but no judgement on anyone else, have a great day “ (privately, not in the group chat)