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accused a fake grooming scandal

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Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:06

after watching this on ch 4 this silly silly girl got away with lying about such a crime and ruined peoples lives completely all over a social media post where is the justice for her genuine victims those poor men went through hell all over a lie n a social media post they rallied n did GoFundMe over a lie but cant really when the truth comes out

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Hunglikeapolevaulter · 08/01/2025 14:03

That number just doesn’t seem credible sorry. To my knowledge it’s about 300 people at most affected by these gangs from over a decade ago.

I suggest you might want to update your knowledge then:

"In May 2024, 550 suspects had been arrested and 4,000 victims identified."

https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-what-happened-what-inquiries-there-were-and-how-starmer-was-involved-after-elon-musks-accusations-13285021

And the figures in the article are likely still the tip of a very rotten iceberg.

Grooming gangs scandal timeline: What happened, what inquiries there were and how Starmer was involved - after Elon Musk's accusations

Sir Keir was head of the Crown Prosecution Service for five years when grooming gangs were being investigated.

https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-what-happened-what-inquiries-there-were-and-how-starmer-was-involved-after-elon-musks-accusations-13285021

PandoraSox · 08/01/2025 14:03

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:47

reschedule it?????

It is not unknown for TV channels to reschedule programmes due to current events.

PandoraSox · 08/01/2025 14:01

Startinganew32 · 08/01/2025 13:44

Quarter of a million? Are you for real?

I don't think that is an official figure. It is a figure mentioned in a House of Lords debate in 2019 extrapolated by Lord Pearson of Rannoch.If you scroll down to 4:58pm you will see what he based the figure on.

thansard.parliament.uk/lords/2019-05-14/debates/349FA275-CB65-45C0-87C7-EE16D1FD1B0A/GroomingGangs

AllTheMiceGoClang · 08/01/2025 13:58

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:46

forgot this mumsnet standing up for men is a complete no no and heinous crime lol

Bollocks. Standing up in the face of blatant misogyny it’s important for all women.

Stories like this are blatant shoe ins to counteract the rape gangs stories. It’s sickening.

Misogyny is so acceptable. Was going to say nowadays, but it hasn’t changed, society finds more inventive ways to shut women up and stop highlighting shitty male behaviour - what better way than over highlighting the behaviour of one woman to conveniently take the spotlight away from these men?

Rules of misogyny are basically a bingo card right now.

accused a fake grooming scandal
LifeExperience · 08/01/2025 13:55

Startinganew32 · 08/01/2025 13:44

Quarter of a million? Are you for real?

A quarter of a million girls over 50 years and likely ongoing, is what's being reported in the American media. I've read some of the court transcripts, and being a retired military officer I thought I had a strong stomach for violence, but these girls were tortured along with being raped, often anally, including with poles and other implements to enlarge their anuses.

GCITC · 08/01/2025 13:54

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:49

ive seen quiet a bit n read quiet a bit about the genuine victims but genuine victims don't post/brag on social media for a reaction and to get a GoFundMe page hence y you probably not seen anything

Seeing things on social media is not comparable to TV programs.

You still have answered how you think she got away with it. She was sentenced to 8 and a half years in prison. She's not eligible for parole for another 2 years.

CouldItBeAnyMoreObvious · 08/01/2025 13:54

dcbgr · 08/01/2025 13:19

I really wonder where peoples' priorities lie. The best evidence suggests that more than 50 English towns suffered from Asian child rape gangs and tens of thousands of children were raped, tortured and abused these children to this day have not been properly recognised or helped or recompensed.

And tens of thousands of Asian gang rapists and child torturers got off with minimal sentences, or even no sentences, and were never deported. And many people in the social services and police and local government who were responsible for safeguarding, and failed abjectly have never been held to account or had even the slightest penalty for their dereliction of duty.

Yet people think the news of the day is to be upset because Elon tweeted or one victim got two or three people wrongly accused? Is that really the big issue we should be talking about? Why are so many recent threads on Asian child gang rape and torture not focusing on the actual problem?

Plenty of English grooming gangs too, but they don't fit the racist narrative do they?

NameChangedOfc · 08/01/2025 13:51

dcbgr · 08/01/2025 13:19

I really wonder where peoples' priorities lie. The best evidence suggests that more than 50 English towns suffered from Asian child rape gangs and tens of thousands of children were raped, tortured and abused these children to this day have not been properly recognised or helped or recompensed.

And tens of thousands of Asian gang rapists and child torturers got off with minimal sentences, or even no sentences, and were never deported. And many people in the social services and police and local government who were responsible for safeguarding, and failed abjectly have never been held to account or had even the slightest penalty for their dereliction of duty.

Yet people think the news of the day is to be upset because Elon tweeted or one victim got two or three people wrongly accused? Is that really the big issue we should be talking about? Why are so many recent threads on Asian child gang rape and torture not focusing on the actual problem?

This

AllTheMiceGoClang · 08/01/2025 13:51

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:42

she acted in and faith n said sorry that makes it ok the reason it is being highlighted is that no justice was served and she makes genuine victims look bad and stops authorities taking these things seriously

Thousands of rapists a year get off with zero conviction. Thousands of women don’t report their rapist because they know the system is stacked against them.

Your focus is on a woman who lied?

She only makes genuine victims look bad if you’re the type of person whose default line of thinking is that women are liars.

IfUCantDance · 08/01/2025 13:50

Dog bites man syndrome.

The reason why a programme has been made is because false accusations such as this are so vanishingly rare.

Unfortunately, men abusing, torturing, raping and killing women and girls is one of the most commonplace things to happen in the world so it doesn’t make for a punchy headline.

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:49

GCITC · 08/01/2025 13:47

How did she get away with it?

As an aside, the number of separate programs that have been made about this one case, compared with the number of programs about the victims of grooming gangs, is astounding.

ive seen quiet a bit n read quiet a bit about the genuine victims but genuine victims don't post/brag on social media for a reaction and to get a GoFundMe page hence y you probably not seen anything

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GCITC · 08/01/2025 13:47

How did she get away with it?

As an aside, the number of separate programs that have been made about this one case, compared with the number of programs about the victims of grooming gangs, is astounding.

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:47

reschedule it?????

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PandoraSox · 08/01/2025 13:46

I haven't seen this, but when I saw it advertised I was a bit surprised Channel 4 didn't reschedule.

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:46

AllTheMiceGoClang · 08/01/2025 13:44

to lie about this stuff ruins lives if someone made this lie up about a male member of ur family would you go ah it fine no harm done

lying about these things is an issue as it makes genuine victims look less credible and stops people coming forward

These are straight from the MRA Misogyny 101 playbook.

Rape is basically decriminalised when you look at how many men are actually convicted.
Every day “genuine victims” avoid reporting their rapists because they are treated as liars. The very tiny number of liars shouldn’t have any impact on how victims are treated, but despite the tiny number of liars victims are routinely treated like shit and not believed.

Men, unsurprisingly, tend to come out fine from accusations of rape - genuine or otherwise - because the world and his dog are happy to go along with him being a stand up guy who’s been wronged by yet another woman/girl/slag (whatever everyone decides to call her).

Pretty much every woman knows a woman who’s been raped and/or sexually assaulted, but hardly anyone knows a rapist? Doesn’t add up does it.

I’m also willing to bet my right arm that the lives of the raped girls (in their thousands) are ruined beyond the lives of falsely accused men. It’s laughable that anyone believes men are deeply impacted by this.

This is yet another blatant attempt to take attention away from rape gangs in 50 cities that were known to authorities but were ignored. Fucking scum.

forgot this mumsnet standing up for men is a complete no no and heinous crime lol

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Upstartled · 08/01/2025 13:45

Startinganew32 · 08/01/2025 13:44

Quarter of a million? Are you for real?

Yes.

Startinganew32 · 08/01/2025 13:44

Quarter of a million? Are you for real?

Upstartled · 08/01/2025 13:44

She doesn't make genuine victims look bad. Anybody capable of rubbing two brain cells together wouldn't refute the avalanche of testimony and evidence on the back of one sole voice established as acting criminally.

AllTheMiceGoClang · 08/01/2025 13:44

to lie about this stuff ruins lives if someone made this lie up about a male member of ur family would you go ah it fine no harm done

lying about these things is an issue as it makes genuine victims look less credible and stops people coming forward

These are straight from the MRA Misogyny 101 playbook.

Rape is basically decriminalised when you look at how many men are actually convicted.
Every day “genuine victims” avoid reporting their rapists because they are treated as liars. The very tiny number of liars shouldn’t have any impact on how victims are treated, but despite the tiny number of liars victims are routinely treated like shit and not believed.

Men, unsurprisingly, tend to come out fine from accusations of rape - genuine or otherwise - because the world and his dog are happy to go along with him being a stand up guy who’s been wronged by yet another woman/girl/slag (whatever everyone decides to call her).

Pretty much every woman knows a woman who’s been raped and/or sexually assaulted, but hardly anyone knows a rapist? Doesn’t add up does it.

I’m also willing to bet my right arm that the lives of the raped girls (in their thousands) are ruined beyond the lives of falsely accused men. It’s laughable that anyone believes men are deeply impacted by this.

This is yet another blatant attempt to take attention away from rape gangs in 50 cities that were known to authorities but were ignored. Fucking scum.

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:42

Upstartled · 08/01/2025 13:40

I can't abide cowards and rape apologists, rapists, torturers, those willing to be complicit in corruption and the media who would like to highlight one woman acting in bad faith rather than the hundreds and thousands of girls who were raped and tortured in raping gangs.

she acted in and faith n said sorry that makes it ok the reason it is being highlighted is that no justice was served and she makes genuine victims look bad and stops authorities taking these things seriously

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Upstartled · 08/01/2025 13:40

I can't abide cowards and rape apologists, rapists, torturers, those willing to be complicit in corruption and the media who would like to highlight one woman acting in bad faith rather than the hundreds and thousands of girls who were raped and tortured in raping gangs.

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:38

Upstartled · 08/01/2025 13:34

Women who lie about rape cause problems for the accused, is there any reason why ch4 - and you - want to devote discussion to the topic in relation to the raping gangs. Could there be a reason for that?

ijust cant bare people who lie about this sort of stuff and then get away with it a whole town made peoples lives a living nightmare and they should be ashamed of themselves it shows that people r to reliant on o Facebook told me to do this that n the other it on Facebook so it must be true no questions asked

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Upstartled · 08/01/2025 13:34

Women who lie about rape cause problems for the accused, is there any reason why ch4 - and you - want to devote discussion to the topic in relation to the raping gangs. Could there be a reason for that?

Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:33

Upstartled · 08/01/2025 13:31

Things happened? Things happened? Is that how you want to underline the rape and torture of quarter of a million vulnerable working class children?

and lying about r..e and torture is fine as it helps genuine victims how exactly

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