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Am I being prudish, or do I have a point?

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AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 09:39

NC for this.

I've just sent the following email to a company I ordered underwear from:

I've just received my order confirmation and was quite shocked by the accompanying image. I don't want to screenshot it to resend, so hopefully you can work out the image I mean: it is of two women/girls lying on their fronts outside wearing black pants.

The woman (I hope) or girl on the left is very thin, which immediately made me assume she was a teenager. One of her breasts is clearly visible.

I'm not prudish about breasts at all, but it made me extremely uncomfortable to receive an image of what appears to be an almost-naked teenage girl. Given you also sell bras, it seems totally unnecessary for her to be completely topless.

I recommend you review the images you send out to your customers, as this has put me off using your company again.

As I say, I don't have an issue with breasts- I've breastfed in public many a time. It was mainly the fact that, based on her body shape, the woman/girl in the photo looks very young (post-pubescent, but pre-adult) and the exposed breast was completely unnecessary.

So what do you think: did I overreact?

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Vettrianofan · 08/01/2025 20:58

Findmeelf · 08/01/2025 15:17

£18 for one pair of knickers!

Teachers must be well minted these days eh🤑🤪😂

Zone2NorthLondon · 08/01/2025 20:56

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 20:52

So I finally sat down to compose a grovelling email, and they'd bloody replied! 😬

Thanks very much for your note which made interesting reading.

Firstly, you may be pleased to hear that our e-commerce team were already in the process of switching ‘old’ images out, of which this was one. We have expedited that process since we received your feedback, and the image will be replaced on the ‘Your order’s been dispatched’ email from tomorrow. Thank you.

Secondly, I also want to reassure you a bit more. The model is honestly not a teenager, just a very petite adult. And the picture is horribly deceptive – what you can see under the model’s right armpit is actually her left elbow. I agree this is easy to misinterpret!

I do hope this gives you the confidence to re-shop with Stripe & Stare! There is a £20 e-Gift Card winging its way to you by way of an apology for any offence inadvertently caused.

"Interesting reading" 😂Very restrained of her! I decided not to fess up to having created a whole MN thread about The Breast That Never Was, and acted as if I hadn't realised until I received her email. I replied:

I'm in hysterics as I type this- I can't believe I mistook an elbow for a breast! I'm so sorry you had to spend your time replying to such a ridiculous email. I hope that you got a good laugh out of my email, at least!

Leaving aside the fact that I am clearly an idiot, I do think maybe what added to my discomfort was the fact that the models faces were cropped out- I can't quite put my finger on why, but perhaps it feels a bit impersonal, like they have been reduced to bodies rather than people? It's also much harder to mistake an adult face for a teenage one! Possibly something to consider for the future, although I accept that I'm probably the last person you want to take suggestions from.

The voucher is a very kind gesture, but I won't be using it- I've caused your company enough trouble!

Have a lovely evening

Here endeth the saga! I'm back at work tomorrow (I don't work Wednesdays, hence why I had the time to send prudish emails and create ridiculous Mumsnet threads!) so I will probably leave this thread here. Although I will share the reply to my email, if I get one!

Lastly, I'm genuinely sorry if I have offended anyone- as I say, I am slim myself, so I really wasn't intending to shame anyone based on their body type. I think it's incredibly important for all body types to be represented, including those which are naturally very thin. Something about the image didn't sit right with me (when I thought the elbow was a breast, that is!), which is possibly down to my own unrecognised prejudices.

To end on a lighter note- I showed the email to my wife when she got home, and she thought it was a breast too! I'm not the only idiotic lesbian in this house!

You’re a good un for apologising and all. Take the freebie have a laugh, get it spent

CrowleyKitten · 08/01/2025 20:55

User776532 · 08/01/2025 10:46

I was going to vote YABU due to "thin" being conflated with underage. However I had a look at their website and I find it very disturbing that they're selling knickers with incredibly childish prints and colours for grown women. Pink with stars, pastel leopard print, hot pink with rainbow spots. WTF. That same style of underwear is literally only sold in toddler, girls and teenage sections in mainstream stores.

It definitely smacks of encouraging grown women to cosplay as underage girls for men of extremely dubious taste. Without going into too much detail, there are multiple porn categories where actresses wear children's knickers with cute patterns and designs to make them appear like teens (or worse). That brand seems to be playing heavily into the market under the guise of being comfortable or sustainable. No other lingerie company offers adult size knickers with those sort of kiddy designs on them.

um. no. those designs are all fine and fun for adults too.
and that's coming from someone that pretty much only buys plain, black, granny pants.

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 20:52

So I finally sat down to compose a grovelling email, and they'd bloody replied! 😬

Thanks very much for your note which made interesting reading.

Firstly, you may be pleased to hear that our e-commerce team were already in the process of switching ‘old’ images out, of which this was one. We have expedited that process since we received your feedback, and the image will be replaced on the ‘Your order’s been dispatched’ email from tomorrow. Thank you.

Secondly, I also want to reassure you a bit more. The model is honestly not a teenager, just a very petite adult. And the picture is horribly deceptive – what you can see under the model’s right armpit is actually her left elbow. I agree this is easy to misinterpret!

I do hope this gives you the confidence to re-shop with Stripe & Stare! There is a £20 e-Gift Card winging its way to you by way of an apology for any offence inadvertently caused.

"Interesting reading" 😂Very restrained of her! I decided not to fess up to having created a whole MN thread about The Breast That Never Was, and acted as if I hadn't realised until I received her email. I replied:

I'm in hysterics as I type this- I can't believe I mistook an elbow for a breast! I'm so sorry you had to spend your time replying to such a ridiculous email. I hope that you got a good laugh out of my email, at least!

Leaving aside the fact that I am clearly an idiot, I do think maybe what added to my discomfort was the fact that the models faces were cropped out- I can't quite put my finger on why, but perhaps it feels a bit impersonal, like they have been reduced to bodies rather than people? It's also much harder to mistake an adult face for a teenage one! Possibly something to consider for the future, although I accept that I'm probably the last person you want to take suggestions from.

The voucher is a very kind gesture, but I won't be using it- I've caused your company enough trouble!

Have a lovely evening

Here endeth the saga! I'm back at work tomorrow (I don't work Wednesdays, hence why I had the time to send prudish emails and create ridiculous Mumsnet threads!) so I will probably leave this thread here. Although I will share the reply to my email, if I get one!

Lastly, I'm genuinely sorry if I have offended anyone- as I say, I am slim myself, so I really wasn't intending to shame anyone based on their body type. I think it's incredibly important for all body types to be represented, including those which are naturally very thin. Something about the image didn't sit right with me (when I thought the elbow was a breast, that is!), which is possibly down to my own unrecognised prejudices.

To end on a lighter note- I showed the email to my wife when she got home, and she thought it was a breast too! I'm not the only idiotic lesbian in this house!

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CrowleyKitten · 08/01/2025 20:49

TooManyChristmasCards · 08/01/2025 10:22

and thin women don't want the constant pretence that you are not a real woman if you don't have "curves" 🙄

I'm a chubster, and I agree with you.

I've seen artwork of characters played by Anna Maxwell Martin (5.6. very slight build) and Jon Hamm (6.2 ish, broad shoulders) criticised as being Pphile coded, because of their build and height difference.
Ironically, this is the same heights as me and my husband. although I suppose that's fine because I'm fat, right? they are both very definitely fully grown adults.

Combattingthemoaners · 08/01/2025 20:46

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 20:29

You're a slim woman, explaining that the woman in the photo is unusually slim. Are you delusional? Perhaps you need an eye examination.

CPD in human anatomy would be a suitable place to start to bring you up to speed.

You are very rude.

BrieHugger · 08/01/2025 20:42

@AmIJustAPrude ignore the miserable souls who apparently can’t see the funny side. The majority have had a good laugh at your expense and you’ve taken it like a champ!

CrowleyKitten · 08/01/2025 20:40

FerretChops · 08/01/2025 09:43

Not Snag is it? They're well known for their weird fetish type advertising, with either men in tights or very large women in stockings etc

how are either of those "fetish" they're clearly advertising the fact they have products for all body types.

user1473878824 · 08/01/2025 20:34

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 20:31

I didn't accuse you of anything. I said perhaps there's something else you're hiding in your photo album - which could be anything.

oh now you’re just being disingenuous.

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 20:31

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 20:27

I'm sorry, are you genuinely accusing me of having inappropriate images on my phone? Do you not realise you've massively crossed a line here?

I'm reporting your comment. Hope you get a ban.

I didn't accuse you of anything. I said perhaps there's something else you're hiding in your photo album - which could be anything.

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 20:29

You're a slim woman, explaining that the woman in the photo is unusually slim. Are you delusional? Perhaps you need an eye examination.

CPD in human anatomy would be a suitable place to start to bring you up to speed.

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 20:27

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I'm sorry, are you genuinely accusing me of having inappropriate images on my phone? Do you not realise you've massively crossed a line here?

I'm reporting your comment. Hope you get a ban.

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ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 20:23

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rileyy · 08/01/2025 20:20

You are absolutely overreacting, and honestly, being insulting. You’re actually offended enough to email the company because you deemed a model to look like a teenager because she’s thin? Are you kidding?
Lots of women are thin, and they are also allowed to buy underwear, and feel sexy and BE sexy in pictures, without the judgement of some random who has deemed their body not “appropriate.”
I’m actually gobsmacked at your reaction to this.

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 20:13

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 19:31

I certainly hope she doesn’t teach the sciences. It’s hardly a surprise kids are failing in this area if they’re being taught by people like this.

Bit harsh!

Also, rightly or wrongly, the KS1&2 Science Curriculum doesn't contain any references to either breasts OR elbows! Luckily, I'm far more knowledgeable about Space, States of Matter and Forces.

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AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 20:08

TooManyChristmasCards · 08/01/2025 18:41

pretty sure even teachers are allowed to shop for underwear.

I'm not sure how that's relevant to you accusing me of being a man?

Also, shopping for underwear doesn't usually involve taking screenshots of email confirmations.

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user1473878824 · 08/01/2025 20:07

Oreyt · 08/01/2025 20:00

@user1473878824

Are you really though?

Are you a dog?

I apologise for using the completely unknown and unnecessary “howled with laughter” to say I laughed hard at something. Now I feel so stupid and idiotic for because I must have hurt a lot of people with my thoughtless comment.

?!

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 20:06

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 18:32

Please don’t undermine me. Considering you can’t tell the difference from a boob to an elbow, you should perhaps refresh your CPD. Indeed, as a teacher, you run into many people of various shapes and ages. Perhaps you need to educate yourself before making stupid comments about slimmer women.

It’s a picture captured from an email confirmation for expensive underwear. That’s that. You wouldn’t be the first teacher to order underwear from a website like this.

I wasn't trying to undermine you; I'm sorry you've taken it that way. A few people on the thread don't understand why I wouldn't want to screenshot the image, whereas to me (and a few others) it's obvious, so I surmised that it's something you'd only consider if your job involved child safeguarding.

I'm not sure any teaching CPD involves telling the difference between breasts and elbows- certainly none that I've undertaken, clearly!

I also don't think it's fair to say I was making stupid comments about slimmer women- I'm slim myself. Rightly or wrongly, I was genuinely concerned that the woman in the photo could be a teenage girl, since her face wasn't included in the photo and she is- to me, at least- unusually slim. I'm not judging her for that, but I can't deny that I felt uncomfortable with the image without the context of her face. Now I've seen the uncropped image, she is clearly an adult.

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Oreyt · 08/01/2025 20:00

@user1473878824

Are you really though?

Are you a dog?

user1473878824 · 08/01/2025 19:45

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 10:33

Oh my god, I'm in absolute hysterics! I've just zoomed right in and you are absolutely right, it's her elbow! 😂What an absolute tit, excuse the pun!

To make it worse, I'm a lesbian- you think I'd be able to tell the difference between an elbow and a breast!

I'm so sorry for wasting everyone's time- I now need to send a grovelling apology to the company regarding me email! Any suggestions for how to phrase it?!

This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever done in my life.

Sorry but I am absolutely howling

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 19:31

Reginald123 · 08/01/2025 19:25

I am thinking that you need a change in career .

Clearly sales and marketing would not suit you but I am convinced there is a new career for you in the NHS.

With you on the NHS pay roll, the statistics for breast cancer would go right down. You could be Wes Streeting's secret weapon

I certainly hope she doesn’t teach the sciences. It’s hardly a surprise kids are failing in this area if they’re being taught by people like this.

Reginald123 · 08/01/2025 19:25

I am thinking that you need a change in career .

Clearly sales and marketing would not suit you but I am convinced there is a new career for you in the NHS.

With you on the NHS pay roll, the statistics for breast cancer would go right down. You could be Wes Streeting's secret weapon

Zone2NorthLondon · 08/01/2025 19:11

Have you overreacted, yes. Excessively
That fucking drawing though…unintentionally funny. So very rubbish
Great website I love their products

ClapKissBang · 08/01/2025 18:44

TooManyChristmasCards · 08/01/2025 18:41

pretty sure even teachers are allowed to shop for underwear.

I guess the OP needs to have a conversation with the senior leadership team in her school to confirm whether she can order underwear for herself 😂.

Happiestathome · 08/01/2025 18:43

@AmIJustAPrude this thread is hilarious and your responses are particularly refreshing on an AIBU. It’s given everyone a laugh. I can see where you were going with it all (before it became an elbow and we had a head 😂). I also work in education.

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