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Am I being prudish, or do I have a point?

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AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 09:39

NC for this.

I've just sent the following email to a company I ordered underwear from:

I've just received my order confirmation and was quite shocked by the accompanying image. I don't want to screenshot it to resend, so hopefully you can work out the image I mean: it is of two women/girls lying on their fronts outside wearing black pants.

The woman (I hope) or girl on the left is very thin, which immediately made me assume she was a teenager. One of her breasts is clearly visible.

I'm not prudish about breasts at all, but it made me extremely uncomfortable to receive an image of what appears to be an almost-naked teenage girl. Given you also sell bras, it seems totally unnecessary for her to be completely topless.

I recommend you review the images you send out to your customers, as this has put me off using your company again.

As I say, I don't have an issue with breasts- I've breastfed in public many a time. It was mainly the fact that, based on her body shape, the woman/girl in the photo looks very young (post-pubescent, but pre-adult) and the exposed breast was completely unnecessary.

So what do you think: did I overreact?

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janj52301 · 20/01/2025 11:45

I've had occasion to complain to Bobby's bikes that their models don't wear helmets in their ads, they never respond

Pussycat22 · 15/01/2025 23:35

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 09:52

This is the weirdest thing I've ever done, but here you go!

She's on her front but propped up, so it's an angled side view, but you can see nipple.

Brilliant,Picasso,eat your heart out.

dapsnotplimsolls · 15/01/2025 23:31

Strip and Stare knickers - the new Dyson Airwrap.

Darlinghag · 15/01/2025 17:52

This thread is hysterical.

on the plus side OP, i’ve now followed them on IG because I like the look of their products 🤣🤣

AlleycatMarie · 15/01/2025 17:45

pumpkinpillow · 15/01/2025 14:26

My 2 pairs of high rise Stripe and Stare knickers arrived today (sale price)
It's nice to have new undies in grey old January. Thank you OP, they look lovely.

My purchases have also just arrived and are fab! Very grateful to the op for making me aware of this brand!

pumpkinpillow · 15/01/2025 14:26

My 2 pairs of high rise Stripe and Stare knickers arrived today (sale price)
It's nice to have new undies in grey old January. Thank you OP, they look lovely.

Angrywife · 12/01/2025 13:49

FerretChops · 08/01/2025 09:43

Not Snag is it? They're well known for their weird fetish type advertising, with either men in tights or very large women in stockings etc

Given the op says the model was "very thin" i can't imagine for a second it was snag 🤔

latetothefisting · 12/01/2025 13:20

You've had some incredibly rude replies on this thread OP so fair play for staying strong. And actually the more I think about it, while I'm still not in agreement over the initial 'thin and small so must be a teenager' point, it IS a 'thing' to depersonalise women by not showing their faces/only showing their bodies and cutting off the image before you get to their faces (as per the original cropped image you saw and not the later ones that had more context to show the boob was an elbow).

How often is men's underwear advertised without any heads, or with just the bodies of two nearly naked men lying close together? So perhaps you did give the company something to think about.

I don't think there's anything wrong with you using the £20 voucher particularly given as it's an expensive site you'll probably end up spending more, so they'll still get money out of you!

Reginald123 · 12/01/2025 13:06

I think you have done a sterling job for their lingerie sales.

I think that you now need to expand your horizons ....

I am thinking of you appearing on the TV with the latest "she should have gone to Specsaver" advertising campaign

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 12/01/2025 13:01

So it's not even boob and it's an elbow?!
FFS typical MN lol

AmIJustAPrude · 12/01/2025 12:57

I've had a nice reply from Stripe & Stare:

PLEASE don’t worry and I’m glad you see the funny side! 😊 That said, you were spot on to challenge us – we always appreciate genuine feedback – good, bad and ugly. I will forward your email on to our e-marketing team for their reference.

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AmIJustAPrude · 12/01/2025 12:55

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 12/01/2025 09:37

I think you should spend the gift card. They’ve had more than £20s exposure on this thread.

I do think it’s weird to have topless models when they sell bras.

I do think it’s weird to have topless models when they sell bras.

I thought this, too!

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AmIJustAPrude · 12/01/2025 12:54

Artless · 12/01/2025 10:48

If you read the description of the image, it's not the same as the one I was talking about.

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Doyathinkhesaurus · 12/01/2025 10:23

Dunno about ethics of modelling an all that but I reckon Ella & Me/Ella Bodi want their knicker design back. This Stripe and Stare looks a lot like the old Kinky Knickers design Mary Portas was involved with for the tv. If you are going to spend £50 on pants, at least make sure they are designed and made in Manchester!

ellaandme.co.uk/collections/classic-fit-knickers

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 12/01/2025 09:48

The website pictures all look fine

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 12/01/2025 09:37

I think you should spend the gift card. They’ve had more than £20s exposure on this thread.

I do think it’s weird to have topless models when they sell bras.

TimeConsuming · 12/01/2025 08:03

You raised two points

  1. Ethics of models that look underage with exposed breasts/implicit sexualisation
  2. Unnecessarily exposed breasts/implicit sexualisation in direct mail marketing materials

Of course you will have made an immediate assumption about a model’s age range based on appearance. You then reasoned yourself out of the worst case scenario — as if all companies will act within reasonable boundaries, which is known not to be the case.

  1. Using women/girls who appear inappropriately young —even if they aren’t — is, at best, irresponsible. At worst, it is a form of grooming to shift the — unwitting — audience’s boundaries on mater they have not chosen to view. It normalises images like that.

  2. Exposed breasts and sexualised positioning are unnecessary, almost ironically so, in bra adverts. Doing so is another instance of forced exposure to female exposure.

We call both of those acts grooming.

The company either employed marketers who have no idea of responsibility when dealing with female/young/naked images or the co. is trying to push boundaries of ethical acceptance/normalistion. Maybe for shock or for other reasons.

Being called “prudish” is how women’s safety mechanisms and self preservation are eroded.

adagio · 11/01/2025 09:22

Well thanks to this thread I just bought some sale pants, a cami and a bodysuit - they better be good!
great thread though, thanks op!

LoveACoffeeMorning · 10/01/2025 22:10

TheGhostOfTheYearYetToCome · 10/01/2025 22:07

You keep telling yourself that.

?????

TheGhostOfTheYearYetToCome · 10/01/2025 22:07

LoveACoffeeMorning · 10/01/2025 22:05

Yes Snag use models of many different sizes and some have physical challenges but everything is presented as it should be ; merely as a bunch of ordinary women modelling pants and tights on various bodies.

Not "wierd" and not "fetish type" , not meant to shock or be seen as some kind of alternative art, it's just some women in pants, stockings and tights. Yes the occasional man in tights makes an appearance, presumably because they want to keep their legs warm or maybe they just like tights...
it seems they have a way to go .
The tights are amazing BTW.

You keep telling yourself that.

LoveACoffeeMorning · 10/01/2025 22:05

FerretChops · 08/01/2025 09:43

Not Snag is it? They're well known for their weird fetish type advertising, with either men in tights or very large women in stockings etc

Yes Snag use models of many different sizes and some have physical challenges but everything is presented as it should be ; merely as a bunch of ordinary women modelling pants and tights on various bodies.

Not "wierd" and not "fetish type" , not meant to shock or be seen as some kind of alternative art, it's just some women in pants, stockings and tights. Yes the occasional man in tights makes an appearance, presumably because they want to keep their legs warm or maybe they just like tights...
it seems they have a way to go .
The tights are amazing BTW.

Candy24 · 10/01/2025 20:25

AmIJustAPrude · 10/01/2025 06:26

Guys, do you think I should cancel the cheque? 😉

You probably need glasses.....lol

Datesandprunes · 10/01/2025 12:45

@DiaryofaProvincialLady yes I someone might have mentioned that already......

Yazzi · 10/01/2025 07:22

AmIJustAPrude · 08/01/2025 09:52

This is the weirdest thing I've ever done, but here you go!

She's on her front but propped up, so it's an angled side view, but you can see nipple.

Ahahahahhahagahahhaahaa this is all I will see when people sunbake topless on their tummies from now on..... Thank you OP