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Parents complaining about this in school?

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WillowAnn · 08/01/2025 01:30

DC are not properly watched whilst eating at dinner time and allowed to just go outside whenever they’re finished. So they could basically have no dinner or just a very small amount and then go out to play. Staff don’t advise them to eat more or say they can’t go out until they’ve eaten. Parents are complaining. Any thoughts?

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BippidyBoppety · 09/01/2025 22:21

Curtainqueen · 08/01/2025 05:35

Bloody hell. I still remember our miserable dinner lady standing over me and refusing to let me go outside until I had eaten all of the revolting school dinner. I still remember crying because I hated the food.

Ditto, the evil cow. Tears running down my face into the revolting pink solid lump of -?- custard, while she sat next to me, in my face. Next morning I threw a complete freak-out at the school gates (8 or 9 years old). 50+ years ago and still makes me feel sick when I think about it.

CrowleyKitten · 09/01/2025 22:11

forcing children to eat beyond feeling full, or to eat things they find disgusting is a good way to trigger eating disorders.

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2025 22:05

CrowleyKitten · 09/01/2025 21:48

not really. schools have an aversion to intervening and punishing bullies.

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Londonrach1 · 09/01/2025 21:49

I'd be grateful that the school didn't forcefeed my child to eat. What your thoughts op?

CrowleyKitten · 09/01/2025 21:48

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 08/01/2025 06:23

What a strange thing to say.

not really. schools have an aversion to intervening and punishing bullies.

Nanny0gg · 09/01/2025 19:34

CatsandDogs22 · 08/01/2025 01:33

I wouldn’t want the school dictating how much my child does or doesn’t eat. It’s healthier for them to eat to their appetite not some predetermined amount by the teachers.

Whilst true, many children will abandon lunch in favour of play. Especially the footballers

I think keeping them in for at least 15/20 minutes ( by which time they may realise they're actually hungry) doesn't hurt

That doesn't mean they have to stand over them forcing them to eat

C152 · 09/01/2025 19:31

I find the level of mollycoddling in the UK bizarre. When I went to school, everyone brought a packed lunch, which they ate outside in the playground. Or didn't eat, if they didn't want to. Or swapped with someone else. No teachers watched to make sure everyone ate. They expected you to have a certain level of independence.

OhcantthInkofaname · 09/01/2025 19:21

Having children sit for a set number of minutes per lunch time is a good idea. Monitoring what they eat is not.

I'm in the US and grew up with nuns. Basically we were force fed.

Ayechinnyreckon · 09/01/2025 18:31

CatsandDogs22 · 08/01/2025 01:33

I wouldn’t want the school dictating how much my child does or doesn’t eat. It’s healthier for them to eat to their appetite not some predetermined amount by the teachers.

Totally agree

HonestOchreRaven · 09/01/2025 12:47

This happened in our primary as a result of a parent complaining their child hadn’t ate lunch in 6 months - the school’s response was to harass all the kids. I spoke to the HT told her I didn’t wish my kids to eat more than they wanted - she promised to have a word but they were still harrsssed and not allowed to leave the lunch room until they proved they’d eaten all their lunch - give someone a bit of power and they’ll cling on to it.

BobbyBiscuits · 09/01/2025 11:28

Everyone I know who was forced to eat certain food or certain amounts of food at school had a very disordererd relationship with food in later life.

They should be allowed to eat until they're satisfied and go and play. The staff can't make them eat as some kind of punishment. They might not like the food or might be full.

I remember eating nothing but grated cheese and grated carrot, and cake when I was in primary school. Rather that than being forced fed all the other crap. I guess that was the 80s!

I'm sure your kids school food is nicer than the rubbish we had back then. So just let them eat what they feel like.

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2025 11:12

ByKindOpalPoet · 09/01/2025 09:05

@CaptainMyCaptain I teach in a state school (not a free school or anything) and I do two lunch duties a fortnight. While yes I get free food and paid for them (about £5 ish a duty), maybe they choose to do a lunch duty, I don't have a different contract or anything, I just volunteered to do some duties at lunch time

Lunch duty was one of the things teachers were not required to do after a pay deal some time ago like counting dinner money and putting up displays (although I liked putting up displays). I preferred to eat my own lunch in peace and prepare for the afternoon although I did go in to help new Reception starters I wasn't required to. Nobody got paid for it at my school (£5 wouldn't have tempted me) and no teachers ever went outside at lunch time. If you happened to witness something as you were walking down the corridor, for example, you would obviously deal with it. .

fitzwilliamdarcy · 09/01/2025 09:42

Gemaski · 08/01/2025 02:35

I am a teaching assistant who also covers lunch, and we really cannot win. If we try encourage children to eat more a parent may complain that we are forcing them and if a child goes home saying they didn't eat their lunch and go home hungry they are quick to write an email accusing us of neglecting their needs! This and water bottles are the biggest complaints we get- the water bottles are available all day to the children but its our fault of they barely drink!

I genuinely don't understand this. When I went to school, we didn't have water bottles and my parents had absolutely no idea whether I was drinking or eating. It wouldn't have crossed their minds to contact the school about it.

What is going on with modern parents?

Atlasvue · 09/01/2025 09:31

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 08/01/2025 12:07

Well I went to a 'naice' primary school in a naice village in the south of the uk and it was horrendous.

Yes- can you not see the link?

ByKindOpalPoet · 09/01/2025 09:05

@CaptainMyCaptain I teach in a state school (not a free school or anything) and I do two lunch duties a fortnight. While yes I get free food and paid for them (about £5 ish a duty), maybe they choose to do a lunch duty, I don't have a different contract or anything, I just volunteered to do some duties at lunch time

Lottie2shoes · 09/01/2025 09:04

I think it is a hard one. As a dc who had a fairly normal appetite and just finished food fast then went out to play, it was ok.
But then other dc was a very fussy eater who could only eat small amounts at a time. They were also very sensitive. It did not help that the teacher who decided they did not eat properly was rather firm and to the point. So after a few teary returns from school, i had to go to school and explain that while i appreciate they are trying to be helpful ( because as an adult, i could see where they were coming from), my dc could only eat small amounts at a time so i would be happy if they only ate a small amount. Believe i had learnt that lesson the hard way after the 1st less fussy dc. I remember as a toddler, trying to get them to eat more so they would be full, but after years i gave up as i realised their stomachs couldn’t seem to take it. That they needed food little but often.
The teacher understood as i explained and then after that, treated accordingly. Which resulted in happy child and happy teacher.
So after that long essay, what i am trying to say is;
The teacher is trying to do best by your child and if you work with them and explain in whichever way you want your child to be eating, they should be accommodating.

PurpleThistle7 · 09/01/2025 08:58

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2025 07:20

I don't know why they are doing that then. Lunch time supervision is not in their contract unless it's a Private school or a Free school or some such thing with a different contract.

Never occurred to me it was odd! I’m in Scotland so maybe it’s different here? Or… entirely possible… my kids don’t give me the full information. I just know that when my daughter was being bullied it was witnessed by the actual teachers at lunch and then reported to me so I know there are teachers of some sort around all the time. No one cares about what anyone is eating though

Cocothecoconut · 09/01/2025 07:46

Some of our kids have been known to get food , walk round the table and put it straight in the bin
yes they are encouraged because a lot of them would rather sit and talk and some don’t even know how to use cutlery

Notrynajudge · 09/01/2025 07:38

I'm glad the children aren't forced to eat.

I have very clear memories of being bullied and berated by the lunch time assistants to finish the cold hard boiled potatoes. It felt abusive and extremely distressing. This was London in the 90s!

rainbowstardrops · 09/01/2025 07:34

Watsername · 08/01/2025 19:20

Honestly, schools can’t win. I was a TA for 10 years and had to cover lunches.

Parents complain if you don’t encourage eating, and complain if you do.

I would encourage a child to eat, but would never ‘force’ the matter. The amount of food wastage is absolutely shocking at lunchtime. Most children will happily eat a few more mouthfuls if you gently ask them to.

And yes, water bottles are a pain too - always available to the child, but it’s school’s fault if they’ve not been touched. (It’s also the TA’s fault if the bottle goes missing as they are supposed to know where all 30/60 bottles are at all times - and TAs are personally responsible for every (unnamed) jumper).

I was a TA too and I could have written your post word for word!
Some of the complaints we had were absolutely ludicrous!
Some parents should go into schools and see exactly the shit that school staff are expected to put up with! I left after over 13 years because it just became impossible to do my job properly.

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2025 07:20

PurpleThistle7 · 08/01/2025 22:43

I don’t know what this means. There is a rota of teachers who supervise? I know them all and they’re definitely teachers.

I don't know why they are doing that then. Lunch time supervision is not in their contract unless it's a Private school or a Free school or some such thing with a different contract.

PurpleThistle7 · 08/01/2025 22:43

CaptainMyCaptain · 08/01/2025 15:49

They're not teachers, though, they're Midday Supervisors. They can pass on messages if they want a parent to know they're child isn't eating but they are not teachers

I don’t know what this means. There is a rota of teachers who supervise? I know them all and they’re definitely teachers.

BeavisMcTavish · 08/01/2025 20:55

WillowAnn · 08/01/2025 01:30

DC are not properly watched whilst eating at dinner time and allowed to just go outside whenever they’re finished. So they could basically have no dinner or just a very small amount and then go out to play. Staff don’t advise them to eat more or say they can’t go out until they’ve eaten. Parents are complaining. Any thoughts?

First question - how old are the kids?

and no, beyond say Year 4 I don’t think the lunch hitlers should be dictating how many more mouthfuls before break. Kids that ages will soon learn - truth be told looking round the play ground, not cramming their faces full of food would do 30% of the Year the power of good!

Watsername · 08/01/2025 19:20

Honestly, schools can’t win. I was a TA for 10 years and had to cover lunches.

Parents complain if you don’t encourage eating, and complain if you do.

I would encourage a child to eat, but would never ‘force’ the matter. The amount of food wastage is absolutely shocking at lunchtime. Most children will happily eat a few more mouthfuls if you gently ask them to.

And yes, water bottles are a pain too - always available to the child, but it’s school’s fault if they’ve not been touched. (It’s also the TA’s fault if the bottle goes missing as they are supposed to know where all 30/60 bottles are at all times - and TAs are personally responsible for every (unnamed) jumper).

TooManyChristmasCards · 08/01/2025 16:11

Dramatic · 08/01/2025 09:58

If you offered him a sandwich and packet of crisps at home but he only ate the packet of crisps then of course it's not neglect

can you imagine being accused of neglect every time your toddler/ child refuses to eat something 😂