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DD and late night snack

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ChitterChatter1987 · 07/01/2025 22:16

DD is 7 nearly 8
She used to have snacks at bedtime but we stopped it some months back because it was delaying her going to sleep and keeping her up.
We only allow it now if she has barely eaten anything during the day or at tea so is understandably going to be hungry.
The other night she asked again for the fiest time in ages, and we agreed as she had barely had much tea or lunch.
I know if we agree once it's a slippery slope and can become a regular habit again, but didn't want to deny it as she hadn't eaten alot so felt unkind to do so.

Last night same thing happened, but as she had been sick (not bug just due to jumping around after tea) allowed it due to that but warned this would be the last night.

Tonight, after tea, reminded her of this again clearly stating she would not be getting a late night snack, and encouraging her to eat enough.She left alot of her jacket potato, tuna and cheese saying she was full, but did eat some.She also had a crunch corner yoghurt and an apple, and had a plate of snack food at her after school club too beforehand.

Tonight around 9pm she was moaning repeatedly about being hungry, that her stomach hurt etc (unsure if this was genuine or not).DH I think felt I was being abit mean being firm with her not allowing food when she said her stomach hurt (did give her a drink of water) but I feel like she had a warning about no snack tonight whilst there was a chance to eat, she had a reasonable amount of food late afternoon/early evening and at 9pm she needed to be settling down to sleep not eating. We don't want to push her to overeat, but it annoys me that a plate of good food (not something she dislikes) goes in the bin, then she wants a snack later on, as it's wasteful.

AIBU?

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user2848502016 · 08/01/2025 10:39

Difficult one because at only just 8 she's still got quite a small stomach and maybe is genuinely eating enough dinner so that she's full but then is still getting hungry later. Some children need to eat little and often rather than 3 big meals.
But if she's in bed at 7.30 and still awake at 9 saying she's hungry then that does sound like trying it on!
What time is dinner? If you eat quite early it could be that she's hungry by bedtime. It could also be time for a later bedtime if she isn't falling asleep easily. A small not very exciting snack at 7.30 then bed at 8 could work better?
My almost 10 year old still likes a glass of milk and small snack before bed, dinner usually at 6pm then snack around 8pm and she's usually asleep before 9pm. Snack is usually non sugary, cheese and crackers or slice of toast etc and only milk or water to drink. She eats well at dinner time and is active and a healthy weight so not over eating.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 08/01/2025 10:35

ChitterChatter1987 · 08/01/2025 09:58

Food isn't usually a big issue as mostly we try to have a take it or leave it no pressure or fuss approach for the most part other than this particular thing.

It’s a bit odd to have a no pressure take it or leave it approach to tea if there’s a ban on supper after that. Particularly if she doesn’t go to sleep before 9 I still think you should allow supper, even if it is leftover tea. Do you never snack after your tea?

bigkidatheart · 08/01/2025 10:35

I always gave my children supper, normally some weetabix or crumpet or toast or teacake, nothing that would have them bouncing the walls. Normally about 20 mins before going to bed, with a warm drink.

I was once told (so don't shoot me if i'm wrong) that babies/childrens stomachs are the size of their fists, and that although the stomach can swell to accommodate more food/fluids, some children need to eat little and often.

DaisyChain505 · 08/01/2025 10:33

If she doesn’t eat her dinner save it and offer her that if she says she is hungry again that evening.

Also she should be asleep before 9pm. That’s a late bed time.

ChitterChatter1987 · 08/01/2025 10:32

DaisyDumplings · 07/01/2025 23:24

We always ate around 5.00pm, bath and jammies for 7.00pm and some toast and milk or a banana and milk just before bed. Each child had a water bottle beside their bed if they were thirsty for during the night.

If your DD has been sick there’s probably nothing left in her stomach so she would be hungry.

That was the night before she was sick....I did let her have a snack then for that reason.

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ChitterChatter1987 · 08/01/2025 10:31

rebelrun · 07/01/2025 23:14

Can vouch this is a real thing…my DC has done this a couple of times at home and at school lunch break after hanging upside down straight after eating (and had to stay off for 48hours each time).

This is exactly what happened Monday night! She was hanging upside down over the side of the sofa after eating lots of pasta (doing some sort of gymnastics move) next thing she was being sick in the sink! 🤦‍♀️

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RhiWrites · 08/01/2025 10:30

Why do you bin the rest of dinner if she’s often hungry later? Couldn’t you put it in a small bowl in the fridge and reheat and offer it again?

Maybe she’s ‘hungry for snacks’ not ‘hungry for dinner food’ and if she knew she was getting the leftover dinner she’d either refuse (not really hungry) or eat it (actually hungry).

ChitterChatter1987 · 08/01/2025 10:29

Onlyvisiting · 07/01/2025 23:13

Also imo you shouldn't need to 'give' a 9yo child a drink of water, they should be able and allowed to just got to the sink and fill a glass whenever they feel like it and without a conversation about it

If she is waking up thirsty then put a bottle beside her bed.

She is 7, but yeah get your point.Usually we do encourage her to get it herself from the bathroom tap.

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ChitterChatter1987 · 08/01/2025 10:26

LittleMonks11 · 07/01/2025 22:47

She should be asleep by 9pm really. What's keeping her up? Is it a comfort snack do you think?

She has never gone to bed early....she hasn't been asleep before 9pm since probably reception/Y1 age.She does wake up quite late in the mornings too though.

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creamsnugjumper · 08/01/2025 10:07

@JimHalpertsWife it's been a long night. 🤣 I thought this was a day+ old

ChitterChatter1987 · 08/01/2025 09:58

Fidgety31 · 07/01/2025 22:27

There’s no need for a child that age to be eating at that time of night if they have a normal sleep schedule / no care needs etc

Sounds like food is a big issue in your house - could be a slippery slope if not contained now.

Food isn't usually a big issue as mostly we try to have a take it or leave it no pressure or fuss approach for the most part other than this particular thing.

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ChitterChatter1987 · 08/01/2025 09:57

TeaAndBrie · 07/01/2025 22:36

I know I’m conditioned to think like this as a child of the 80’s, but why did she have pudding if she left most of her jacket potato?

We allow her to have fruit and then a yoghurt whatever she has eaten but not 'treat desserts' such as chocolate mousse, ice cream, cake etc unless she has eaten a decent amount of first course.Admittedly the yoghurt being a crunch corner on this occasion was probably abit too treat like...usually it's a fromage Frais.

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JimHalpertsWife · 08/01/2025 09:52

creamsnugjumper · 08/01/2025 09:50

Did OP ever reply on this thread?

Give them time, she only posted last night Grin

creamsnugjumper · 08/01/2025 09:50

Did OP ever reply on this thread?

MissDoubleU · 08/01/2025 09:04

My DS has a bowl of cereal or some toast before bed at night. Some kids will prefer little and often eating habits, agree with PP that she knows and needs to listen to her needs.

I am a strong advocate for encouraging children to learn intuitive eating. They don’t need to finish their plate, they know when they’re full and hungry again. It’s very important not to encourage disordered eating and hang ups around food. If she’s hungry, let her have something small/healthy. If she doesn’t want a slice of toast or similar appropriate “supper” then she isn’t hungry, just craving.

Have you considered that her bed time is too early? You said 7:30? Rather than her lying awake until 9 and then wanting to eat it might be better to offer her a supper/snack at 7:30 and then wind down to get into bed and sleep for 8:30

JimHalpertsWife · 08/01/2025 08:44

What time does she have dinner, and what time is lunch? Does she usually eat anything between lunch and dinner?

Agix · 08/01/2025 08:41

Best way to have a kid end up struggling with obesity is to make them eat more than they're hungry for at meal times, and restrict food when they are actually hungry.

Youre simultaneously teaching them to eat past their fullness signals, and teaching them that food is scarce. When she's old enough to be getting her own food, the combination of what you have taught her is going to end up in overeating.

Dont make her eat when she isn't hungry.

Let her eat when she is hungry.

Not all food will keep you awake. Hunger will more likely keep you awake. A satisfied tummy will help you sleep, especially certain foods (Google will help).

It's important she learn to properly listen and respond to her bodies cues. Hunger, fullness... And that you allow her to learn this rather than trying to override nature.

We didn't evolve to eat at set meal times three times a day.

Seriously, and people wonder why everyone's getting fat...

Createausername1970 · 08/01/2025 08:29

I would suggest juggling the timings. Perhaps dinner is too soon if she has had food at the after school club. Maybe bedtime is also too soon if she is waking up within an hour or so?

Also, in last night's scenario, the yogurt and the apple could have been kept back for supper.

As a child around that age, I had a hot school dinner at lunchtime, a snack such as a couple of biscuits around 3.30 after school, meal around 5.30 which tended to be sandwiches or salad in the summer, and beans on toast or similar in the winter. Then there was a snack before bed, quite often a sugary one as times were different.

There is nothing wrong with supper as such, by the sound of it your daughter perhaps has too much food offered within a short space of time, so spacing it out might work.

BlueMum16 · 08/01/2025 08:22

ChitterChatter1987 · 07/01/2025 22:38

No she had been in bed since about 7.30/7.45

She's hungry. She must be young to go to bed so early.

Give her supper before bed. Plan for it so it doesn't delay bedtime.

Young kids eat every couple of hours still.
Breakfast
Mid morning snack
Lunch
Afternoon/after school snack
Tea
Supper

Make sure it's not junk (including crisps) as treats then you need to find your child more.

Globusmedia · 08/01/2025 08:17

I'm a night snack person, so is my Dad. Doesn't really matter when we eat or what we've had for dinner (within reason) we will be hungry by bedtime and unable to sleep if we don't eat supper.

It is, I suppose, a habit, but that doesn't mean she's not hungry. Your body learns when you usually eat and releases hunger hormones around that time.

Being older and struggling to maintain my weight more, I just adjust my portions at other times to account for a chunk of food before bed.

Zanatdy · 08/01/2025 08:10

Give her some toast before bed every night, at least then she’s not asking for other things.

BMW6 · 08/01/2025 08:05

Wherehavetheyallgone · 07/01/2025 22:29

A couple of dry crackers, or slice of wholemeal bread and butter should be dull enough to quell this habit

Yep. If she's truly hungry she'll eat.

BarbedButterfly · 08/01/2025 07:48

We always had supper at that age as I was hungry before bed. I would give her something.

Purpleturtle46 · 08/01/2025 07:20

TeaAndBrie · 07/01/2025 22:45

What’s the time gap between having snacks at afterschool club and then dinner?
is it possible she’s not properly hungry at dinner time so picks at the food offered and then ends up feeling more hungry a little later on at bedtime?

I would ask this too? My daughter (same age) always have fruit after her shower about 8pm and then if she wants it crackers or toast.

MumChp · 08/01/2025 01:05

I never say no but offer boring snacks.

Brown bread (we don't eat white bead) with butter or oats with milk.
I don't want children to go hungry but it's not a midnight feast.