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Nobody fed the baby.

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shaylla · 07/01/2025 21:41

I need a bit of perspective from others point of view here please.

A 13 month old - given breakfast at 7.30, then instead of his normal lunch is only given half an eggs worth of scrambled egg at lunch time. No water or milk all day then till 5 when another adult returns home and finds out (and feeds baby immediately). The adult/s in charge of the baby all day 'didn't realise' ... ??

This is neglect yes?

OP posts:
Imisschampagne · 08/01/2025 21:20

Tia86 · 08/01/2025 21:08

I want to know where everyone finds these jobs! I would love a work from home job that is simply sending a few emails, and I can breezily look after a toddler at the same time

Same! I usually have meetings back to back and have a hard time squeezing in a pee break.

Tia86 · 08/01/2025 21:08

Imisschampagne · 08/01/2025 20:59

Honestly wtf - I’m reading for the first time here on Mumsnet that apparently some people wfh while having their kids around. That’s taking advantage and abusing the privilege to work from home. Unless you sit down at a later time and work what you’ve missed while taking care of your kid.

I want to know where everyone finds these jobs! I would love a work from home job that is simply sending a few emails, and I can breezily look after a toddler at the same time

LameBorzoi · 08/01/2025 21:05

Fluufer · 08/01/2025 20:51

Bit of a drip drip drip of 3rd hand drama tbh. First baby wasn't fed at all - except half an egg and a mystery "wrong food". Making out dad was a lazy fecker who can't parent by himself - now turns out he was actually working.... Making out it was the first time, but in fact he has been managing for a couple of months already....
They need to use proper childcare on days they are both working, and your DD needs to loosen up and let dad choose lunch sometimes - nothing wrong with offering baby scrambled egg.

Totally this. You can't look after a 13 month old and work at the same time. You can't do quality work, and it's unsafe and boring for the kid. They need to pay for childcare.

Tia86 · 08/01/2025 21:05

Sorry but if the partner is working from home, surely a proper childcare arrangement needs to be in place. A lot of companies do not like this, are they even aware that he is looking after the child?
Is this why the other grandparents were there this time?

To me it sounds like your daughter is just generally annoyed that perhaps the food she made wasn't given - why he couldn't be trusted to rustle up something himself anyway (is she always this controlling?) and has gone running to you.

If this was the first time this has happened and he has managed on other weeks this really is a non issue and no where near as dramatic as the title first suggested.

HollyKnight · 08/01/2025 21:01

Plus, if it was the grandparents who fed the baby, he can't know for sure how much the baby ate and might not have noticed if they'd provided a drink or not. All you know for sure is that he didn't.

Imisschampagne · 08/01/2025 20:59

Honestly wtf - I’m reading for the first time here on Mumsnet that apparently some people wfh while having their kids around. That’s taking advantage and abusing the privilege to work from home. Unless you sit down at a later time and work what you’ve missed while taking care of your kid.

Fluufer · 08/01/2025 20:51

shaylla · 08/01/2025 20:36

Well thank you so much for the kinder posts 😊

I will leave now, but some thoughts:

I agree that me having the babe another day a week solves nothing long term. I'm a gran, but my strongest pull is still towards my own children, and looking after my eldest's baby for her another day, to take the stress of this away for her, was my first and purest instinct. (she's still my baby! 😊) It's not the right thing though and i haven't offered in the end.

I'm going to keep a firm eye on this. See what occurs next week. So is DD ...

He was WFH but mon is his lightest work load day - just a few emails - which is why DD and her employer settled on this day to be the one for her to go in. She's done a couple of months being back in on a mon. I'm saying this is the first time the baby has gone without a drink on a mon - but who really knows? It's very upsetting to think about.

I'm amused by so many posters being so positive that in reality the baby did get water and milk somehow and even, in fact, had the time of his life! It's like they can't process reality so pretend everything was probably ok really. The ''chinese whispers'' were: the father (who was there all day)(and the downstairs is tiny by the way, clean and modern but kitchen and living room is one space so you can see everything all at once) fessing up that his parents had offered the wrong food, given simply a bit of scambled egg instead and left a couple of hours later. And then he'd not thought to give milk or water or thought to perhaps offer the normal/correct lunch mid afternoon or something.

Anyway - thanks again to all. I'm going back to lurking now Flowers

Edited

Bit of a drip drip drip of 3rd hand drama tbh. First baby wasn't fed at all - except half an egg and a mystery "wrong food". Making out dad was a lazy fecker who can't parent by himself - now turns out he was actually working.... Making out it was the first time, but in fact he has been managing for a couple of months already....
They need to use proper childcare on days they are both working, and your DD needs to loosen up and let dad choose lunch sometimes - nothing wrong with offering baby scrambled egg.

thepariscrimefiles · 08/01/2025 20:48

shaylla · 08/01/2025 20:36

Well thank you so much for the kinder posts 😊

I will leave now, but some thoughts:

I agree that me having the babe another day a week solves nothing long term. I'm a gran, but my strongest pull is still towards my own children, and looking after my eldest's baby for her another day, to take the stress of this away for her, was my first and purest instinct. (she's still my baby! 😊) It's not the right thing though and i haven't offered in the end.

I'm going to keep a firm eye on this. See what occurs next week. So is DD ...

He was WFH but mon is his lightest work load day - just a few emails - which is why DD and her employer settled on this day to be the one for her to go in. She's done a couple of months being back in on a mon. I'm saying this is the first time the baby has gone without a drink on a mon - but who really knows? It's very upsetting to think about.

I'm amused by so many posters being so positive that in reality the baby did get water and milk somehow and even, in fact, had the time of his life! It's like they can't process reality so pretend everything was probably ok really. The ''chinese whispers'' were: the father (who was there all day)(and the downstairs is tiny by the way, clean and modern but kitchen and living room is one space so you can see everything all at once) fessing up that his parents had offered the wrong food, given simply a bit of scambled egg instead and left a couple of hours later. And then he'd not thought to give milk or water or thought to perhaps offer the normal/correct lunch mid afternoon or something.

Anyway - thanks again to all. I'm going back to lurking now Flowers

Edited

Has your DD told him how disappointed she was? Is this strategic incompetence at the expense of the baby's wellbeing so that he won't be asked to care for his baby again or is he just completely useless?

shaylla · 08/01/2025 20:36

Well thank you so much for the kinder posts 😊

I will leave now, but some thoughts:

I agree that me having the babe another day a week solves nothing long term. I'm a gran, but my strongest pull is still towards my own children, and looking after my eldest's baby for her another day, to take the stress of this away for her, was my first and purest instinct. (she's still my baby! 😊) It's not the right thing though and i haven't offered in the end.

I'm going to keep a firm eye on this. See what occurs next week. So is DD ...

He was WFH but mon is his lightest work load day - just a few emails - which is why DD and her employer settled on this day to be the one for her to go in. She's done a couple of months being back in on a mon. I'm saying this is the first time the baby has gone without a drink on a mon - but who really knows? It's very upsetting to think about.

I'm amused by so many posters being so positive that in reality the baby did get water and milk somehow and even, in fact, had the time of his life! It's like they can't process reality so pretend everything was probably ok really. The ''chinese whispers'' were: the father (who was there all day)(and the downstairs is tiny by the way, clean and modern but kitchen and living room is one space so you can see everything all at once) fessing up that his parents had offered the wrong food, given simply a bit of scambled egg instead and left a couple of hours later. And then he'd not thought to give milk or water or thought to perhaps offer the normal/correct lunch mid afternoon or something.

Anyway - thanks again to all. I'm going back to lurking now Flowers

OP posts:
HollyKnight · 08/01/2025 20:06

This is why it's important to give proper information. A random relative babysitting for the day is a lot different from the child's own father failing to care for the child. As usual, we're talking about a woman who has made a rod for her own back by taking on responsibility for everything baby-related because she had the baby with a useless man. This has resulted in the child's own father not being able to look after his own child without his parents' support. And you will not help the situation by taking on the child an extra day. You are just another shit-man enabler. This is their business to sort out.

sandyhappypeople · 08/01/2025 18:54

I agree with PP that something doesn't add up here, grandparents who have raised at least one child between them don't know they have to give a baby liquid throughout the day? I just can't believe that is true, three adults in the house and no one thought to givedrink to the child they were looking after??.. definitely more to this story.

Either they gave stuff that wasn't approved on purpose, or they didn't realise there was stuff left after they offered to watch the baby so the dad could go off and do whatever he did all day. Or dad has lied about what happened because he does not want to be left with the baby one day a week and knows OPs mum will come in and save the day if he fucks it up badly enough.

I know you are concerned OP, but women actually do themselves a diservice by taking over and infantalising their partners the way your daughter is, men are completely capable of looking after children, but if they are never expected to do it, or in the case of someone I know they were never allowed to do anything (feed, nappies, nightimes, nothing!), then they will not have the first clue about how to look after a child, the idea is for both people to learn together at the same time on an equal footing, not one do literally everything while the other does absolutely nothing.. why do women tolerate it?

Delphinium20 · 08/01/2025 18:40

@User860131 So you've spent an entire day wasting people's time, being cryptic and vague.

Seriously, fuck off. The OP is concerned about her GDD...you may come her for entertainment only, but OP needed advice and she chose to withhold info to not influence bias.

Motherof2nannyof4 · 08/01/2025 18:19

Absolutely it is and not just food but drinks

Words · 08/01/2025 18:09

How large was the breakfast? Maybe it was full/ refused food? Apparently I was like this as an infant.

The concept of 'snacks' is very recent.

I agree the lack of liquid is a worry.

CamelByCamel · 08/01/2025 16:33

It'd be one explanation why there were nappy changes needed whilst the sippy cup remained dry!

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/01/2025 16:31

Fluufer · 08/01/2025 16:17

My guess is grandparents actually fed baby treats and juice and don't want to fess up.

An outrageous allegation based on zero evidence!

(But highly likely to be correct. 😁)

CamelByCamel · 08/01/2025 16:22

I wonder if the father was even present for lunch? It sounds like he left that part to his parents, which might explain them having given the baby other things if they're less familiar with his routine.

Fluufer · 08/01/2025 16:17

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/01/2025 16:16

The main adult was watching the baby all day closely enough to know it didn't drink. But didn't notice it crying from thirst?

What were these three adults doing? Staring at a baby all day so they could all be sure it didn't have a drink but never helping it in any way except to change the nappy which somehow became full more than once despite no food or drink intake for 9 hours.

If this had been three drug addicts I can fully understand a Trainspotting type incident but two grandparents and a Dad neglecting a baby in one specific way whilst looking after it perfectly in every other way and watching it constantly to be sure none of them gave it drink. Doesn't pass the sniff test.

Occams razor says Chinese whispers.

Edited

My guess is grandparents actually fed baby treats and juice and don't want to fess up.

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/01/2025 16:16

thepariscrimefiles · 08/01/2025 15:57

You are just making stuff up now. You have absolutely no idea whether the baby had the time of their life with their grandparents and a few treats as well.

OP said:

'We know no drink was offered because the main adult admitted it. Forgetfulness is the excuse.'

We know that the grandparents didn't give the baby the lunch that the mum had left with instructions, but gave the baby different food that it did not like.

The grandparents obviously didn't visit the baby with the aim of neglecting them. They sound incompetent and clueless, as does their son, the baby's dad.

The main adult was watching the baby all day closely enough to know it didn't drink. But didn't notice it crying from thirst?

What were these three adults doing? Staring at a baby all day so they could all be sure it didn't have a drink but never helping it in any way except to change the nappy which somehow became full more than once despite no food or drink intake for 9 hours.

If this had been three drug addicts I can fully understand a Trainspotting type incident but two grandparents and a Dad neglecting a baby in one specific way whilst looking after it perfectly in every other way and watching it constantly to be sure none of them gave it drink. Doesn't pass the sniff test.

Occams razor says Chinese whispers.

thepariscrimefiles · 08/01/2025 15:57

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/01/2025 14:09

Yep, and the child was observed so closely all day we can be sure he/she wasn't given a drink all day yet also totally neglected. ....and he/she had nappies changed. Schrodinger's neglect.

There is no way this child went all day without a drink. It's just third hand Chinese Whispers. He/she had the time of her life with Dad and Grandparents and most likely had a good few treats as well. Grandparents don't visit their grandchildren with the aim of neglecting them. More likely spoiled rotten.

You are just making stuff up now. You have absolutely no idea whether the baby had the time of their life with their grandparents and a few treats as well.

OP said:

'We know no drink was offered because the main adult admitted it. Forgetfulness is the excuse.'

We know that the grandparents didn't give the baby the lunch that the mum had left with instructions, but gave the baby different food that it did not like.

The grandparents obviously didn't visit the baby with the aim of neglecting them. They sound incompetent and clueless, as does their son, the baby's dad.

thepariscrimefiles · 08/01/2025 15:48

istheheatingonyet · 08/01/2025 13:23

its not gross neglect.

Not giving any drinks at all might be.

Tia86 · 08/01/2025 15:17

I don't think we will know the true version here as it relies on speculation.

Was this the dad's first time looking after the child? Only you mention daughter doing an extra day, so is this a one off?

Also is it too many people assuming someone else has done a job?
With the drink could a grandparent assume dad had done this? Did the grandparents know they were meant to be looking after the child or did they simply think they were visiting (to me this would mean they might be less helpful as a visitor rather than a helper).

Does the daughter actually want to go to work, or does she want husband to mess up as a good excuse to stay home? How much involvement does he have when she is there in getting the food and drink?

Bjorkdidit · 08/01/2025 14:14

Ginnyweasleyswand · 08/01/2025 13:29

This, I know so many friends this has happened to. In one case he used to leave the children alone to go and do his hobbies when it was his turn. Thankfully the oldest child is old enough to call the mother who went and got them (many times). Because nothing bad actually has happened to them (because mother steps in to do more than 50% when her ex just abandons them) she is still in a fight for court to recognize she is doing more than 50% and that he is neglectful. Same ex has also palmed them off multiple times on a succession of girlfriends. The kids now don't want to go to their Dad's but the constant saving them from neglect is affecting the mother's ability to work. He actually doesn't really want 50% but he does want to financially abuse his ex and the system enables him to do so. He knows she won't leave them being neglected.

Sorry bit off topic, but have seen this or a variation of this happen so many times.

Yes, a neglectful father even wore thin for a friend of mine's teen/tween DSs when they realised that the initial euphoria of being allowed to game all night, eat mostly takeaways and not bother showering also came with no washing being done ever, getting into trouble at school because they'd not done their homework and not having uniform that fit because he'd not taken them to buy it when he was supposed to. One of them now lives entirely with his DM and the other lives with a friend. Friends ex lives in squalor, as would many lazy and neglectful men, left to their own devices.

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/01/2025 14:09

GinAndJuice99 · 08/01/2025 12:23

So the child ate at breakfast, lunch and at 5. Am I alone in thinking the reaction here is a bit over the top?

Yep, and the child was observed so closely all day we can be sure he/she wasn't given a drink all day yet also totally neglected. ....and he/she had nappies changed. Schrodinger's neglect.

There is no way this child went all day without a drink. It's just third hand Chinese Whispers. He/she had the time of her life with Dad and Grandparents and most likely had a good few treats as well. Grandparents don't visit their grandchildren with the aim of neglecting them. More likely spoiled rotten.

Summerbod25 · 08/01/2025 14:05

shaylla · 07/01/2025 23:03

The babys normal food was all left ready.

They just didn't give it to him.

this is all so… odd

are they the grandparents? Not wilful neglect per se if it’s a one-off, and they’re not used to looking after the baby, but sounding more like sheer and utter stupidly combined with the arrogance of the “I know best” attitude- why didn’t they give the child the food that was provided for him?

I would not be leaving a baby in their care again