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Nobody fed the baby.

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shaylla · 07/01/2025 21:41

I need a bit of perspective from others point of view here please.

A 13 month old - given breakfast at 7.30, then instead of his normal lunch is only given half an eggs worth of scrambled egg at lunch time. No water or milk all day then till 5 when another adult returns home and finds out (and feeds baby immediately). The adult/s in charge of the baby all day 'didn't realise' ... ??

This is neglect yes?

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Delphiniumandlupins · 07/01/2025 22:32

Not a good day but hopefully a rare one. Usual carer should leave a schedule with the baby - times and quantities for meals, snacks, drinks, nappy changes, naps.

MrsSunshine2b · 07/01/2025 22:31

Katej82 · 07/01/2025 22:21

Agree Milk is the main source of food until 12 months for my little one it was the main until 15 months she nibbled more than ate full meals and had her milk and snack fruit vet rice cakes and the baby snacks. The risk is dehydration and the food they have quoted is not enough calories the lady saying it is enough is saying hers is breastfeed as well so that would be enough wouldn't it but this child had no milk or fluids.

Edited

If I wasn't there, she'd usually refuse fluids bar an occasional sip of water, and then catch up by feeding all night. I'm also curious as to how many naps the baby has. Many babies (not mine but other lucky people) go up to 12 hours at night without a drink at that age, because they are sleeping and don't need it. She might well have been asleep for 3 or more hours of the day.

shaylla · 07/01/2025 22:31

@Iudncuewbccgrcb i'm swinging between feeling exactly like this and wanting to go and punch someone.

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Growuppeople · 07/01/2025 22:30

really ffs, do they normally eat? Sometimes my baby won’t eat a thing after being ill or a few days after. Hate people, everyone just jumping to the worst with the tiniest details

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 07/01/2025 22:28

Mustard3 · 07/01/2025 22:15

I think there’s a few factors that could change the situation either way.

How big was the breakfast? If it was a big porridge, or 2 weetabix and a banana, for example, that’s different than if it was half a slice of toast.

Was only half an egg offered for lunch? Or was other food offered, which baby chose not to eat? Who bothers scrambling only half an egg? How was that portion decided on, and how do you know it definitely was only half an eggs worth?

Finally, when you say “no drink offered”, was there no drink with lunch, even?

If there was literally no drink offered at all from 7.30am-5pm, then this is clearly abusive.

If baby had a drink at the table with lunch, but then wasn’t offered a mid-afternoon milk like
you normally would (for example), this is more “stupid adults not knowing the routine”, rather than being outright abusive.

Yeah I would agree with this. If the child has had a good breakfast and something to drink at breakfast, something to eat at dinner time and then in the hubub of the day it's not been noticed that no one has put a sippy cup of water out for the baby but the baby is otherwise not in distress (a bit grumpy at tea time is most 13mo on a normal day!) then it's 'not great but no harm done' for me.

Sounds like they've had a good feed at tea time and have otherwise been changed and looked after. In the grand scheme of things it's not Romanian orphanages level of neglect- its still a bit shit but not going to cause any lasting harm.

I bet it turns out the baby has had a drink at some point - mine were excellent at finding half full sippy cups in random places they had buried them days earlier and taking a manky swig.

AyrnotAir · 07/01/2025 22:28

That's bloody shocking, my child would never be alone with any of those people again. Of course it's neglectful. Id be hungry and thirsty with that small amount never mind a growing baby.

Topsyturvy78 · 07/01/2025 22:26

Annabella92 · 07/01/2025 21:46

I accidently hit yabu. But yanbu

You can change it to YANBU.

shaylla · 07/01/2025 22:26

It's not happened before.
Baby is happy and very healthy.

Baby had porridge and milk for brek.
Baby was well fed as soon as the mum came home.

I'm hoping it was a one off! It's amazing to me that anyone could get through a day not being aware of a baby's needs even if there's other adults around.

I just wanted some perspective on how angry to be. I'm bemused by it. So is the mum. Within the knowledge that obviously not all details are know to everyone posting - this has helped.

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PennyApril54 · 07/01/2025 22:26

This is absolutely ridiculous. Poor baby.

Patienceinshortsupply · 07/01/2025 22:26

There's no way on earth that I would leave a child with those adults again. It is very much neglect and without excuse, sorry.

oakleaffy · 07/01/2025 22:24

That is shocking neglect for fluids especially.
I hope you report this as it’s comply unacceptable.
You can guarantee the adults in charge ate and drank.

HollyKnight · 07/01/2025 22:21

Is there a reason the baby's parents didn't tell the person/people watching the baby about the baby's routine? Or was the one not feeding the baby one of the parents? There isn't enough information here for me to say if this was neglect by the minder or by the parents.

Katej82 · 07/01/2025 22:21

Lunde · 07/01/2025 22:04

Snacks are in addition to meals - ½ an egg (approx 40 calories) might be a snack but is not lunch

Agree Milk is the main source of food until 12 months for my little one it was the main until 15 months she nibbled more than ate full meals and had her milk and snack fruit vet rice cakes and the baby snacks. The risk is dehydration and the food they have quoted is not enough calories the lady saying it is enough is saying hers is breastfeed as well so that would be enough wouldn't it but this child had no milk or fluids.

SarcasticMrsKnowItAll · 07/01/2025 22:19

I'm a social worker in safeguarding. Context and a bit more detail is important here. Yes, this is not acceptable for a 13 month old to go 9 hours or so with very little food and no water, but equally if this was just an isolated incident and another adult came and promptly met the child's needs, then I would be less concerned, however it would need to be made clear this person could not care for the child alone again. What you're not telling us is whether this is a regular occurrence or whether this person is the child's main carer as that would be significantly concerning.

Stealthmodemama · 07/01/2025 22:17

Annabella92 · 07/01/2025 21:46

I accidently hit yabu. But yanbu

You can change your vote by clicking on the 'right' option

(I've done this before when I have not realised what BU was and assumed the opposite wrongly)

Mustard3 · 07/01/2025 22:16

verdantverdure · 07/01/2025 22:12

No liquids and 40 calories all day.

OP stated the baby had breakfast.

verdantverdure · 07/01/2025 22:16

The dehydration worries me more than anything.

MrsSunshine2b · 07/01/2025 22:16

WhereYouLeftIt · 07/01/2025 22:06

"The adult/s in charge of the baby all day 'didn't realise' ... ??"

Did the adults in charge eat during the day?
Do the adults in charge have any eating disorders?

How often do you eat between 7:30 and 5pm? I would just have lunch. A typical lunch for me would be one or two eggs and a slice of toast, so I'd assume that half an egg was about the right amount for a baby, although I would have included toast.

Mustard3 · 07/01/2025 22:15

I think there’s a few factors that could change the situation either way.

How big was the breakfast? If it was a big porridge, or 2 weetabix and a banana, for example, that’s different than if it was half a slice of toast.

Was only half an egg offered for lunch? Or was other food offered, which baby chose not to eat? Who bothers scrambling only half an egg? How was that portion decided on, and how do you know it definitely was only half an eggs worth?

Finally, when you say “no drink offered”, was there no drink with lunch, even?

If there was literally no drink offered at all from 7.30am-5pm, then this is clearly abusive.

If baby had a drink at the table with lunch, but then wasn’t offered a mid-afternoon milk like
you normally would (for example), this is more “stupid adults not knowing the routine”, rather than being outright abusive.

AshCrapp · 07/01/2025 22:15

shaylla · 07/01/2025 22:01

I don't know exactly how it happened myself to be honest.

I don't want to go into all the ins and outs. I know nappies were changed. I know the baby was 'grumpy' by the end of the day and was fed well. It was hopefully a one off. There was coming and going in the house. The adults were all blood relatives to the baby.

This thread is v helpful to me thank you all

Ok, it depends. If mum is in the hospital and everyone is last minute chipping in, taking shifts and getting confused about who has done what, then it's understandable how a genuine mistake could happen. If it's clear what had happened and it was a normal day of looking after baby, then it's neglect.

MrsSunshine2b · 07/01/2025 22:13

Lunde · 07/01/2025 22:04

Snacks are in addition to meals - ½ an egg (approx 40 calories) might be a snack but is not lunch

At the same age, some days, my daughter would only eat 1/2 an egg for lunch. Some days, she'd happily eat 2 eggs, a slice of toast, a sausage and then a punnet of blueberries. It really depends on their mood that day in my experience. I am guessing whoever looked after her did not scramble half an egg, and half an egg is the amount the baby chose to eat.

If the baby was crying with hunger, pale, starting to seem dehydrated, low on energy or, over the long term, is very underweight, then there definitely might be an issue.

If it just happened to be a day when they weren't that interested in food (which might be the case with lots of relatives coming and going) I don't think it's a very big deal.

verdantverdure · 07/01/2025 22:12

MrsSunshine2b · 07/01/2025 22:01

I'm surprised at the strength of the responses.

The baby had breakfast and lunch and at 13 months, half an egg is probably about right for lunch. The NHS recommends they also have 2 snacks a day (usually morning tea and afternoon tea) but lots of kids aren't bothered about a snack.

She should have been offered water and milk but again, lots of babies don't drink much unless you really harass them.

This sounds about average for what my DD would have eaten at the same age, maybe a few strawberries or some veggie straws in between, and breastmilk if she was with me.

No liquids and 40 calories all day.

miniaturepixieonacid · 07/01/2025 22:12

I don't know but I wouldn't define after lunch (12:30? 1/?) until 5pm as 'all day'. I probably wouldn't think to feed a baby in that time unless they cried because I wouldn't be thinking meal time and wouldn't eat myself so I guess the day would just pass until it became dinner time (I don't know when that is for a baby - 5:30? 6?) and then I'd naturally think about food. But then I know nothing about caring for babies and toddlers so freely admit I'm wrong judging by others' responses. But I would have done the same thing with no ill will towards the baby.

toomuchcheesetoomuchchocolate · 07/01/2025 22:10

Was this a case of everyone thinking that someone else had fed the baby? The scrambled egg thing is odd - why half a scrambled egg? Was it served by itself or with toast? And was the toast buttered? That would be a very different number of calories to just half a scrambled egg.
It's horrible to thing of this poor child going hungry and so worrying as the lack of fuss it made suggests that this might be typical.

Bournetilly · 07/01/2025 22:06

Was the baby unwell? Surely they would start screaming for milk/ water and food. Not that it makes it any better, they should still be offered something regularly. I just don’t understand how they could forget.