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1 in 20 people have a blue badge?

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Oodlesofnoodlez · 07/01/2025 16:54

So I’ve just had to battle to get a family member a blue badge, they receive high rate of everything and immobile but still a complete battle.

so I’m thinking ‘ok it must be very very difficult to get therefore hardly any must be issued’…. Nope figures from 22-23 show almost 5% that’s 2.6 million people have a blue badge.

surely these figures cannot be correct?

will it be completely impossible to find disabled spaces now we’ve got the badge?

we are in the SE

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LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 18:29

Overitallnow · 08/01/2025 18:22

There's a blue badge in a skip rubbish removal lorry that's been parked in residents parking bay near me for days now - wondering how that works??

Off the top of my head, I would deduce that a person who has a disability was in the lorry, could be the lorry driver themselves, because you know, some disabled people do actually work. Or was you meaning something else?

thesaskedminger · 08/01/2025 18:24

VegTrug · 08/01/2025 18:08

@TigerRagIt does in some areas. They’re all different

Automatic BB entitlement doesn't vary by area. It is set at government level. The criteria are different for Scotland and England (don't know about Wales/NI). The gov website shows the criteria and this cannot be changed by area. What they can do is also decide to give out BBs for people who do not have automatic entitlement, and that is where the massive variations come in.

Overitallnow · 08/01/2025 18:22

There's a blue badge in a skip rubbish removal lorry that's been parked in residents parking bay near me for days now - wondering how that works??

TigerRag · 08/01/2025 18:13

Boomer55 · 08/01/2025 17:55

You had automatic entitlement. 🤷‍♀️

RTFT where various posters including me have pointed out this isn't the case

MewithME · 08/01/2025 18:09

Sorry @BrightYellowTrain yes, I have misunderstood you. Probably my brain fog. Sorry 😔

VegTrug · 08/01/2025 18:08

@TigerRagIt does in some areas. They’re all different

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 18:05

MewithME · 08/01/2025 18:03

@iwentjasonwaterfalls if that's the case, sorry, I missed that. I know nothing about cystic fibrosis.

@BrightYellowTrain cfs and me are the same thing. Medical profession uses CFS. Patients often prefer ME.

Chronic Fatigue is not the same thing. Agreed. That's what I was saying, though the issue overall is not with individuals unless they are misusing the BB.

It's with councils. Either it's ridiculously hard to get one or seemingly too easy according to some PPS!

You have missed my point. CF stands for Cystic Fibrosis. It is not the same thing a chronic fatigue, CFS or ME.

MewithME · 08/01/2025 18:03

@iwentjasonwaterfalls if that's the case, sorry, I missed that. I know nothing about cystic fibrosis.

@BrightYellowTrain cfs and me are the same thing. Medical profession uses CFS. Patients often prefer ME.

Chronic Fatigue is not the same thing. Agreed. That's what I was saying, though the issue overall is not with individuals unless they are misusing the BB.

It's with councils. Either it's ridiculously hard to get one or seemingly too easy according to some PPS!

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 08/01/2025 17:59

MewithME · 08/01/2025 17:53

Sorry to be a pedant but as MEcfs is badly misunderstood I'm chipping in.

Chronic Fatigue is a symptom. It is not the same as CFS. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (or myalgic encephalomyelitis M.E.) is a complex and usually permanent neurological condition that includes exhaustion and fatigue as a result of carrying out normal daily activities. Anyone who is well enough to go into a shop is on the mild end like me. Having a blue badge means that I can manage my energy on days I feel able to go to a shop. It's not just physically walking further, it's coping with noise and light and cognitive processing. In essence the body doesn't produce enough energy to regulate itself properly.

I get headaches, stomach issues, tinnitus, joint pain, muscle twitches, neurological sensations, problems with temperature, brain fog, muscle weakness, sore throats....I could go on. I look totally normal. I go to work. I look after my child.

Having a blue badge gives me a tiny bit of help to carry on functioning and keeping a roof over my head by working.

However, if the space is no nearer the shop, I don't take it up as I don't necessarily need more room and appreciate other people will need that.

I think this is about Cystic Fibrosis (CF) as opposed to chronic fatigue.

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:59

LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 17:52

No, not all with CF are automatically eligible. You can see the automatic eligibility criteria on the government’s website.

That is all you really needed to say!

That is all you really needed to say!

In your opinion. In my opinion it needed saying just because someone appears ‘well’ with ‘no difficulties’ doesn’t mean they are well with no difficulties. Many don’t understand that. They don’t see the toll it takes.

thesaskedminger · 08/01/2025 17:57

@Boomer55

You had automatic entitlement. 🤷‍♀️

High rate PIP is not an automatic entitlement.

Boomer55 · 08/01/2025 17:55

Oodlesofnoodlez · 07/01/2025 17:09

Yes highest rate pip for both (paper based too) and still all of this hassle :(

You had automatic entitlement. 🤷‍♀️

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:54

MewithME · 08/01/2025 17:53

Sorry to be a pedant but as MEcfs is badly misunderstood I'm chipping in.

Chronic Fatigue is a symptom. It is not the same as CFS. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (or myalgic encephalomyelitis M.E.) is a complex and usually permanent neurological condition that includes exhaustion and fatigue as a result of carrying out normal daily activities. Anyone who is well enough to go into a shop is on the mild end like me. Having a blue badge means that I can manage my energy on days I feel able to go to a shop. It's not just physically walking further, it's coping with noise and light and cognitive processing. In essence the body doesn't produce enough energy to regulate itself properly.

I get headaches, stomach issues, tinnitus, joint pain, muscle twitches, neurological sensations, problems with temperature, brain fog, muscle weakness, sore throats....I could go on. I look totally normal. I go to work. I look after my child.

Having a blue badge gives me a tiny bit of help to carry on functioning and keeping a roof over my head by working.

However, if the space is no nearer the shop, I don't take it up as I don't necessarily need more room and appreciate other people will need that.

CF is not the same as chronic fatigue, CFS or ME.

MewithME · 08/01/2025 17:53

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 14:37

@LadyKenya @brunettemic CF can be a fluctuating and variable condition. You don’t know when you might need the blue badge. You don’t want to need it but not have one and have to apply and wait.

Sorry to be a pedant but as MEcfs is badly misunderstood I'm chipping in.

Chronic Fatigue is a symptom. It is not the same as CFS. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (or myalgic encephalomyelitis M.E.) is a complex and usually permanent neurological condition that includes exhaustion and fatigue as a result of carrying out normal daily activities. Anyone who is well enough to go into a shop is on the mild end like me. Having a blue badge means that I can manage my energy on days I feel able to go to a shop. It's not just physically walking further, it's coping with noise and light and cognitive processing. In essence the body doesn't produce enough energy to regulate itself properly.

I get headaches, stomach issues, tinnitus, joint pain, muscle twitches, neurological sensations, problems with temperature, brain fog, muscle weakness, sore throats....I could go on. I look totally normal. I go to work. I look after my child.

Having a blue badge gives me a tiny bit of help to carry on functioning and keeping a roof over my head by working.

However, if the space is no nearer the shop, I don't take it up as I don't necessarily need more room and appreciate other people will need that.

LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 17:52

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:43

No, not all with CF are automatically eligible. You can see the automatic eligibility criteria on the government’s website. But just because someone w/CF appears ‘well’ to a colleague and doesn’t appear to have ‘difficulties’ doesn’t mean they are ‘well’ or have ‘no difficulties’, and it doesn’t mean it doesn’t take a huge toll and effort to appear that way.

No, not all with CF are automatically eligible. You can see the automatic eligibility criteria on the government’s website.

That is all you really needed to say!

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:43

LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 17:35

@BrightYellowTrain Right, I have clarified that is not the case, I am in no position to cast judgement on who I think should have one, and who should not. She has been granted one. I was asking a question, that is still unanswered, but never mind.

Edited

No, not all with CF are automatically eligible. You can see the automatic eligibility criteria on the government’s website. But just because someone w/CF appears ‘well’ to a colleague and doesn’t appear to have ‘difficulties’ doesn’t mean they are ‘well’ or have ‘no difficulties’, and it doesn’t mean it doesn’t take a huge toll and effort to appear that way.

LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 17:35

@BrightYellowTrain Right, I have clarified that is not the case, I am in no position to cast judgement on who I think should have one, and who should not. She has been granted one. I was asking a question, that is still unanswered, but never mind.

Wingedharpy · 08/01/2025 17:35

Free parking can be an incentive possibly?

XenoBitch · 08/01/2025 17:30

thesaskedminger · 08/01/2025 12:13

You can't.

Also, standard mobility has an automatic entitlement if you get 8 points in 'moving around'

Yep. I have a friend who got a BB based on that one descriptor. Thing is, he got about fine without a BB anyway.... but got one in the end because he was entitled to. Can't say I blame him, as that is how the system is set up.

You can have a BB without PIP too.

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:27

LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 17:19

I was not saying that she is not eligible, I have no idea, I was responding to another poster at first. I was asking if someone with CF would automatically be granted a BB, as a matter of course, well, or not.

Your question comes across as though you didn’t think she should have one. ‘well, or not’ shows you don’t understand CF and the toll it can take to appear ‘well’ to the outside world.

JanuaryCrow · 08/01/2025 17:22

Maybe MN should create an index of 'Really Easy Places to Get a Blue Badge'.

LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 17:19

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:10

You said ‘It would not be on most people's mind’. Most people don’t have CF. Someone has obviously determined she is eligible. It isn’t for you or anyone else to decide she isn’t eligible based on a snapshot from someone else. Whether she chooses to use it or not is not anyone’s else business. Your use of no difficulties shows how you don’t understand how CF can affect people nor the effort and toll daily life can take even if they appear fine to outsiders.

I was not saying that she is not eligible, I have no idea, I was responding to another poster at first. I was asking if someone with CF would automatically be granted a BB, as a matter of course, well, or not.

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:10

LadyKenya · 08/01/2025 17:05

@BrightYellowTrain What has that got to do with it? Does having CF mean that you can get a BB even if you have no difficulties, just in case you do later down the line? I was not aware of that obviously. It makes no difference to me, one way or another though.

Edited

You said ‘It would not be on most people's mind’. Most people don’t have CF. Someone has obviously determined she is eligible. It isn’t for you or anyone else to decide she isn’t eligible based on a snapshot from someone else. Whether she chooses to use it or not is not anyone’s else business. Your use of no difficulties shows how you don’t understand how CF can affect people nor the effort and toll daily life can take even if they appear fine to outsiders.

BrightYellowTrain · 08/01/2025 17:07

MerryMaker · 08/01/2025 17:02

The person getting a BB just in case was not eligible for one

It isn’t for you to decide that! Someone has obviously deemed the woman to be eligible. Whether she chooses to use it all the time or not is her choice. You are basing your post on information from a colleague. Many CF’ers do not share the intimate details of their condition and how it affects them with colleagues.

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