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FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:30

My eldest DD split up with her boyfriend of five years in the summer. She had introduced him to her friendship group from school and he and his friends became part of this group and they all hung out together, went to parties etc.

The last year of the relationship was pretty awful for my DD. Her boyfriend would drink too much and become verbally abusive towards both her and other friends in the group. He would push her around and although he didn’t actually hit her, she became pretty scared of his unpredictability when he was drunk. She didn’t talk to us about this until they had split up. We saw a placid and sweet, if a little sad at times, guy that we had grown to love and care about as a family.

His mental health took a decline in the last two years they were together and we helped him to find a counsellor and gave him as much support as we could at this time. He was reluctant to talk to his parents and we did what we could to help while maintaining an appropriate amount of distance. We also encouraged him to talk to his parents which he ultimately did in the end, and they were very supportive and helpful when he opened up to them.

DDs female friends would tell her she needed to split up with him constantly toward the end. They saw this destructive behaviour from him and were at the receiving end of it many times. They were concerned for DD and the effect it was having on her. So in the summer DD had got to breaking point and broke the relationship off.

Since then DDs friendship group from school has completely ostracised her. Her closest friend dating back to primary school (and the most vocal about the relationships toxicity) has stopped messaging her and coming round. We were very close to her as a family and supported her through the toughest of times. I have taken her to hospital appointments and out for lunch afterwards for example. She’s been to family celebrations throughout the years and has basically been a part of our family since my DD became friends with her at the age of five.

My DD is devastated that her closest friend has sided with her ex, knowing all the details about how he was towards her during their relationship. There are constant posts of the friend and ex out together on social media. Just those two and as part of the wider friendship group. There was radio silence from her at Christmas and new year. There is no romantic involvement or interest from either side, I know that 100% so it’s utterly baffling. My DD has no friends to celebrate her upcoming 21st with and is understandably confused and very upset. I can’t help but feel really disappointed with this girl we have known and been close to as a whole family for so long, but I know I need to maintain a healthy distance from this situation.

I so desperately want to message her and tell her hurtful her behaviour has been towards my daughter and supposed best friend, but I know this is being far too involved in my daughters business. But it’s no exaggeration to say that my DD is devastated by this sudden withdrawal of friendship and she’s so so lonely right now. I’ve advised her to unfollow all of them on social media so she can’t see their posts, but she’s yet to do this. I won’t write this message to her but I really really want to!!

I guess what I’m asking for is some reinforcement from the wise mumsnetters to remind me of why this would be a bad idea, because my fingers are hovering over the keys right now.

Thank you for reading to the end of a ridiculously long post. As I write this I realise how overly invested I seem. I’m just so sad for my DD and disappointed in her friend’s choices.

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PlopSofa · 07/01/2025 15:50

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 15:36

This has got a bit weird.

I think you may be reading a little too much into this post. It’s at face value. My daughter is sad at the loss of her friendships, one in particular. I’m sure there’s a lot I don’t know and possibly isn’t my business to. More information may come out in time, and it may not. But in the interim I want to approach it in the most helpful way for my DD.

Thank you to all the helpful advice I have on here. I appreciate it hugely.

I have to say I agree with PP OP. And you might not like it.

I'll give an example because parents can be oblivious to what is really going on, they only ever hear their child's side of the 'argument' or situation.

My DD in Year 6 was treated horribly by two other girls in her class, let's call them A and B.

I know the mum of girl A very well. She lives very close to me and we see each other all the time. Since our girls left primary school we've become good friends.

She's asked my DD to her house many times when she has little gatherings of parents and friends. But would my DD want to go to her house? Not on your life. Her daughter, girl A will be at that house and my DD does not want to mix or spend any time with her at all.

My friend, Mum of girl A is mystified as to why my DD doesn't want to come.

I've never told her how horrible her daughter girl A was to my DD or girl B for that matter, who is also part of the Mum friendship group I'm now in. They would probably be stunned to hear the mean horrible things their DD said to my DD.

My DD is on the spectrum so she doesn't lie and just gets hurt sadly, much of the time.

However, girl of Mum A had a massive falling out with another DM because that DM did tell her how mean her DD was being to her DD. So she started to get an inkling and would occasionally say "well our daughters aren't all perfect are they, they are still learning".

Girl A and Girl B were mean but their DMs knew nothing of it, not really. They thought it's just one girl, one isolated incident whereas actually they were mean to everyone, but particuarly to my DD.

You don't really know for sure what your DD has been doing or saying. You only hear her side.

I'm not saying this is your DD and it does sound like her BF has been very unpleasant. But it's just to be wary of taking sides. Let them work it out. Stay out of it. Be there to pick up the pieces. Don't intefere. Karma has a way I find of sorting many people out, often. Not always, but often. I hope the counsellor is good and helps her find her self-esteem and better boundaries in future. It sounds like it went on far too long.

Thoughtsonallsorts · 07/01/2025 15:46

Your DD hurt is understandable OP. The fact her friendship? group are behaving like this writing to one of them would add fuel to the fire & indeed they would probably all take pleasure in the fact it's done what it was intended to do.I think I'd be more likely to kill the situation with kindness. I would write to her & say how sorry I am that the group feel hurt by the split but given the history I hope they understand I couldn't take anymore. Something along those lines.

BellaCiaoBellaCiao · 07/01/2025 15:43

biscuitsandbooks · 07/01/2025 13:37

Don't get involved.

I would also bet good money that the "friend" and the ex have feelings for each other.

Definitely shagging

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 07/01/2025 15:42

I think you are being very naive if you beleive that things haven't developed between these two arseholes.
Just support your daughter, don't write to her friend, it's something your daughter will learn from.

DaisysChains · 07/01/2025 15:42

Just on the counsellor note - do follow that up and maybe see if a group dynamics class is available too (poss thru uni)

replies here may vary between “she’s only 21 and whole life ahead” to “21 sure that’s grown up enough to cope”

getting a handle on interpersonal relationships and group dynamics now will be forever useful in both personal and work life

we are never to young or too old to start learning about how to navigate interacting with other people

this horrible time could be a really valuable pivot point for your DD as similar was for PP upthread

Applesandpears23 · 07/01/2025 15:38

You sound lovely OP. Well done for being the kind of parent your daughter feels safe to confide in. I think your instincts not to send the letter are right. If I were your daughter and you did something like that I would be cross and maybe avoid talking to you about my problems in the future.

beAsensible1 · 07/01/2025 15:38

she can celebrate with her bf, doe s she have any cousins etc that she's close to that right come around?

alternatively a big holiday is always nice for a birthday and doesn't need a big group to seem fun.

Sad that girls would rather stick with a guy they know is shit just for proximity but expected at that age unfortunately

InterIgnis · 07/01/2025 15:37

Don’t message. Even outside of it being a bad idea to insert yourself in an adult friendships, she either won’t care, or she’ll be pleased at knowing the impact it’s having on your daughter, and take it as an opportunity to stir up drama. Your daughter will be painted as having ‘ran to mummy’, and this will be used against her.

Step back. Just support your daughter’s wish to move on from this.

BustingBaoBun · 07/01/2025 15:37

OP, don't message her, but I think you know that without me saying. I have adult DDs and there have been times I have been tempted to say something, get involved, challenge, and looking back now, I am just so so relieved I kept out of it.

Yes, they will laugh over your text if you sent one. They are all stuck together like glue at the moment, but I would look at it as they are standing still, and your DD will be moving forward without them. This will be a painful time for her, but it will blow over, hard though it is. You sound like a great Mum.

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 15:36

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This has got a bit weird.

I think you may be reading a little too much into this post. It’s at face value. My daughter is sad at the loss of her friendships, one in particular. I’m sure there’s a lot I don’t know and possibly isn’t my business to. More information may come out in time, and it may not. But in the interim I want to approach it in the most helpful way for my DD.

Thank you to all the helpful advice I have on here. I appreciate it hugely.

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Yellowseat · 07/01/2025 15:36

Honesty would your DD ever even want to be friends with that group again?

They have behaved appallingly towards her. She has seen some really true colours showing through here. Learn the lesson to be learned and focus on continuing what you are already doing very well, supporting your daughter. This shit happens in life, groups can become very toxic if they tolerate toxic people it is almost like they drop down to the lowest common denominator, thankfully your DD has loving support around her when it happened to her.

Wildwalksinjanuary · 07/01/2025 15:34

Encourage your dd to do exactly what she has been doing, which is get on with her new university life and let the old group fade away. There might be multiple reasons why dd has decided on this but support her without asking questions.

If she is lonely in the holidays she can get a part time job or invite her new friends to stay? Plan the holidays well in advance with her.

This will pass. She may have outgrown the whole lot of them and be moving on wholesale.

I would be cautious about her jumping from one relationship to another. Focus on her not on the others, that’s the way forward.

TheFormidableMrsC · 07/01/2025 15:32

I'm going to go against the grain here. You have known this girl her whole life, invited her into your family, fed her and supported her through difficulties and this is how she treats your daughter and family? What will she do when she bumps into you in the street? Ignore you? I'm afraid I would say something, wouldn't occur to me not to. I am very much the outsider with this opinion clearly, but I think it's nasty, childish and shitty behaviour that needs calling out. I feel terrible for your DD, horrible for her. I hope she finds better friends.

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FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 15:29

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Yes I know them well enough. I also know all the kids well enough to drop them a message. That doesn’t make it appropriate to do so. As echoed by almost every reply on this thread.

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Your reply’s are increasingly combative and I’m not sure why greencoat.

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FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 15:26

Oreyt · 07/01/2025 15:23

Your kids have been best friends since they were 5 but you don't know the parents well?

It’s complicated. We know them well enough.

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Oreyt · 07/01/2025 15:23

Your kids have been best friends since they were 5 but you don't know the parents well?

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I feel this would be overstepping as much as contacting the girl herself. If I were to see them we may have a conversation about it, but directly messaging about our adult children’s friendship feels inappropriate. As much as it has crossed my mind!

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