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FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:30

My eldest DD split up with her boyfriend of five years in the summer. She had introduced him to her friendship group from school and he and his friends became part of this group and they all hung out together, went to parties etc.

The last year of the relationship was pretty awful for my DD. Her boyfriend would drink too much and become verbally abusive towards both her and other friends in the group. He would push her around and although he didn’t actually hit her, she became pretty scared of his unpredictability when he was drunk. She didn’t talk to us about this until they had split up. We saw a placid and sweet, if a little sad at times, guy that we had grown to love and care about as a family.

His mental health took a decline in the last two years they were together and we helped him to find a counsellor and gave him as much support as we could at this time. He was reluctant to talk to his parents and we did what we could to help while maintaining an appropriate amount of distance. We also encouraged him to talk to his parents which he ultimately did in the end, and they were very supportive and helpful when he opened up to them.

DDs female friends would tell her she needed to split up with him constantly toward the end. They saw this destructive behaviour from him and were at the receiving end of it many times. They were concerned for DD and the effect it was having on her. So in the summer DD had got to breaking point and broke the relationship off.

Since then DDs friendship group from school has completely ostracised her. Her closest friend dating back to primary school (and the most vocal about the relationships toxicity) has stopped messaging her and coming round. We were very close to her as a family and supported her through the toughest of times. I have taken her to hospital appointments and out for lunch afterwards for example. She’s been to family celebrations throughout the years and has basically been a part of our family since my DD became friends with her at the age of five.

My DD is devastated that her closest friend has sided with her ex, knowing all the details about how he was towards her during their relationship. There are constant posts of the friend and ex out together on social media. Just those two and as part of the wider friendship group. There was radio silence from her at Christmas and new year. There is no romantic involvement or interest from either side, I know that 100% so it’s utterly baffling. My DD has no friends to celebrate her upcoming 21st with and is understandably confused and very upset. I can’t help but feel really disappointed with this girl we have known and been close to as a whole family for so long, but I know I need to maintain a healthy distance from this situation.

I so desperately want to message her and tell her hurtful her behaviour has been towards my daughter and supposed best friend, but I know this is being far too involved in my daughters business. But it’s no exaggeration to say that my DD is devastated by this sudden withdrawal of friendship and she’s so so lonely right now. I’ve advised her to unfollow all of them on social media so she can’t see their posts, but she’s yet to do this. I won’t write this message to her but I really really want to!!

I guess what I’m asking for is some reinforcement from the wise mumsnetters to remind me of why this would be a bad idea, because my fingers are hovering over the keys right now.

Thank you for reading to the end of a ridiculously long post. As I write this I realise how overly invested I seem. I’m just so sad for my DD and disappointed in her friend’s choices.

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Maddy70 · 13/01/2025 17:43

Absolutely don't write it. They are adults it has nothing to do with you and will make your daughter seem desperate

nodramaplz · 13/01/2025 17:18

Define something between the friend and the ex

nodramaplz · 13/01/2025 17:09

How about you ASK her for her aide.
You've only got one side that u were told x

DemiSec9 · 13/01/2025 17:01

LalaPaloosa2024 · 09/01/2025 07:44

That’s an interesting point. When I broke things off with my high school boyfriend he reached out to my cousin and tried to get her to meet up with him, saying to my cousin “That will piss her off.” He couldn’t even contain his intentions. My cousin reported this back to me, we discussed how weird it was and of course she never saw him. The same vindictive boy also called my mother to tell her how hard it was for him after all the sexual experiences we had shared. Can you imagine someone saying that to your mother?

This is just to say that I think you have made an excellent point. Boys/men can be very catty and vindictive. That could be what is happening here.

Dd had a really abusive difficult boyfriend a few years ago. I didn’t know at the time but he did things like take her phone and text me pretending to be her when she was asleep! I thought I was texting her but it was him. Loads more stuff.

but the point here is that he turned all her friendship group against her when she dumped him. It was really awful. It’s amazing how manipulative some people can be.

after years apart now, he messaged me the other day asking me to put in a good word for him with dd as he is a “changed character.” I didn’t reply and blocked him.

Goodtogossip · 13/01/2025 13:36

Has your DD contacted her friend asking why she's being left out? If she still wants to be involved with the friendship group she could message them as a group asking if they'd fancy doing something for her upcoming Birthday. their response will help her decide if she wants to keep trying with them or not.

Mamasperspective · 09/01/2025 07:50

Don't send it - you THINK you know this friend but she's shown you who she truly is, so believe her! She's proven herself to be a crappy friend so, despite how hard it is for your DD, your DD is better without this girl in her life. Instead encourage DD to expand her friendship group and do activities that she enjoys where she can meet like minded people (maybe she could start something like a mixed martial arts class to meet new people - at least if she ever met anyone toxic in the future, she's capable of defending herself if it escalated ... it's never a bad thing to be able to defend yourself then not have to use those skills in every day life)

LalaPaloosa2024 · 09/01/2025 07:44

DaisysChains · 07/01/2025 15:52

Going to also add that it’s worth considering that if the ex was manipulative and controlling that of course he’ll have honed in on your dd’s best friend

especially if she has had a traumatic childhood that may have left her vulnerable to being groomed charmed

so vitriol towards her might not be the best use of energy - could be in a few months time she will be in the position your dd was in prior to Christmas - only without her best friend in the picture at all

nice and isolated, just how abusers prefer, along with a big dash of self-loathing/guilt that she doesn’t deserve any better bc of her actions towards your dd

That’s an interesting point. When I broke things off with my high school boyfriend he reached out to my cousin and tried to get her to meet up with him, saying to my cousin “That will piss her off.” He couldn’t even contain his intentions. My cousin reported this back to me, we discussed how weird it was and of course she never saw him. The same vindictive boy also called my mother to tell her how hard it was for him after all the sexual experiences we had shared. Can you imagine someone saying that to your mother?

This is just to say that I think you have made an excellent point. Boys/men can be very catty and vindictive. That could be what is happening here.

LalaPaloosa2024 · 09/01/2025 07:22

biscuitsandbooks · 07/01/2025 13:37

Don't get involved.

I would also bet good money that the "friend" and the ex have feelings for each other.

Or the friend has feelings for the ex.

Wouldn’t it just serve this “friend” right if your daughter and her ex boyfriend got back together and the friend was ostracised from the group.

Obviously, this isn’t a healthy option given this boy’s mental health issues.

I would advise your daughter to reach out to others in the group to socialise and start building relationships without those two. In terms of her birthday, I would take her somewhere fabulous if you can afford it. Take her mind off this as much as possible with a trip away.

I'm sorry you and your daughter are going through this. I’d be livid in your shoes. Don’t send the letter. Silence is also a response and that is what I would give this so-called friend of your daughter’s for the rest of her life. Don’t ever give her kindness or support again. I’d never speak to her again and I hope she feels the loss of your whole family.

Nikki75 · 08/01/2025 20:30

I feel your pain for your daughter.. I get these feelings with my sons I've had to really teach myself to step back .
It's so hard to see our kids hurting no matter what age they are.
Your daughter will find her way encourage her to make new friendships and reassure her that she will.
It's all lifes lessons resilience with love and support from you and a listening ear she will be ok.. dont whatever you do message her so called friend it wont go down well .

emmax1980 · 08/01/2025 20:19

I would contact her friend to say not seen you in a while, see what is said.

mcmen05 · 08/01/2025 19:30

My dd finished with her bf in Oct after 4 years. Two of those they shared accommodation at uni
She always pretented they where so happy didn't do the normal uni life so I let her do it her way.
She told me at Xmas that the reason she didn't go out to night clubs or bars with him was because he would become a different person shouting and not nice.
She caught him asking girls for nudes he lied said he was hacked but 6 months later admitted to it so she ended it.
She is much happier now has lots of uni friends and work friends.
Maybe get a new friend group start fresh

jessycake · 08/01/2025 19:24

In a couple of years the dynamic will change again , as they all get partners and work friendships. Your daughter is better out of it , even if it doesn't feel like it at the moment .

TheFormidableMrsC · 08/01/2025 19:21

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What a shitty comment.

Ohnobackagain · 08/01/2025 18:48

@FlamingGalar also as your DD has a new boyfriend, the existing group members may feel they can’t invite her without him which will upset the ex, who remains in the group. They sound a bit immature and don’t know how to handle it …

user1485851222 · 08/01/2025 18:38

Similar thing happened with my DC, friends all thru school, did everything together, then at 18/19, they were ostracised for no blame on their part. It hit them really hard, depression, anxiety. I didn't get involved, the friendship group never reunited, they saw them go on holiday each year, travelling the world. Took my DC a few years to get over it, but they did, it's only now at 32, that they open up to how hard it was at the time. It will get better for your DD. Wishing her all the best.

DemiSec9 · 08/01/2025 17:48

Dd not Dad!

DemiSec9 · 08/01/2025 17:48

I haven’t had time to read the other replies but I had this sort of situation with my dad and it was so painful for her. But it passed and we kept our dignity and kept outside it and now it feels a million miles away xxx

NotaRealHousewife · 08/01/2025 09:54

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Really??? Is that necessary? She is a mum trying to support her daughter

NotaRealHousewife · 08/01/2025 09:53

You have done the right thing op . They sound like a really toxic group and she is well out of it

nestingvillage · 08/01/2025 09:40

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Really unfair and unkind, the OP has repeatedly been calm and thoughtful and expressed she is just sad for her daughter.

Elasticatedtrousers · 08/01/2025 06:21

Does your daughter need such a fair weathered friend in her life? My thoughts would be absolutely not.

Rubbish friends are par of the course when growing up. Your daughter will grow and learn from this experience. Just as she will her first proper relationship breakdown.

I'd be upset for her and absolutely right to post and get support but other than that just be there for her as you are.

Rachmorr57 · 08/01/2025 06:11

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PurpleAxe · 08/01/2025 05:50

Just let it shake out.

Support your DD in growing up and moving forward.

New friends will be made, whole new paths will open up.

It is all so intense when you are that age, but it will pass.

And for the love of God do not get involved.

Monty27 · 08/01/2025 05:43

Happened to me once. I held my head up thinking they'd learn themselves all in good time. Carry on and leave them to it. And they did learn. Big time. All came back and now it's a case of building trust again.
@FlamingGalar keep out of it. DD is very unlikely to appreciate any involvement from you.
She can do this.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 08/01/2025 05:33

It's awful for your DD but I think at 21 years old you are heavily interfering. Don't wrote anything and stay out of it but still offer support to her of course.