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To think no one would pronounce this name right

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eastereggg · 07/01/2025 09:47

How would you pronounce the 'name' Eieoie?

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RedOnyx · 07/01/2025 11:40

Eye-oh-ee. Or maybe Yo-ee. I initially read it as e-i-e-i-o though!

Ontopofthesunset · 07/01/2025 11:40

Ei-oh-ee absolutely does rhyme with Zoe, which is pronounced Zoh-ee by everyone I know. And I guess the pp was trying to show another way of writing 'ee' by using 'wy' as in 'showy', because the 'o' followed by the long 'ee' sound in English leads to elision, so that speakers insert a 'w' sound between the two vowels.

GetyourheadoutoftheovenIris · 07/01/2025 11:35

I wouldn’t be able to guess (although just saw your post explaining) so I would politely ask the person how to spell it.

What is your AIBU though? To ask? To use it? That someone is called it?

Edited to apologise for being a massive dick. The aibu is in the title and I am an incompetent idiot.

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:33

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:30

Zoe - Zo-wy
Eieoie - Eye-o-wy

A bit like how Ione (Eye-o-nee) rhymes with Joanie or Irene rhymes with Jeanie.

OP said it’s pronounced I O E (eye oh ee), not Eye o wy.

Even then your version doesn’t rhyme.

curious79 · 07/01/2025 11:33

Right now I'm imagining Dory trying to speak whale in one of the Nemo cartoon films.

Literally no idea and I'm pretty good with languages.

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:30

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:21

Can you explain how ‘eye oh ee’ rhymes with Zoe?

Showy rhymes with Zoe, but not ‘eye oh ee’.

Zoe - Zo-wy
Eieoie - Eye-o-wy

A bit like how Ione (Eye-o-nee) rhymes with Joanie or Irene rhymes with Jeanie.

Zonder · 07/01/2025 11:29

The question isn't how, but why?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:27

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:17

@OchonAgusOchonOh , However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.
Some names have sounds that don't exist in English. How bad is 'too badly'?

What would you do with a Welsh name like Pwyll or Lleucu? Both lovely names BTW but only one letter is of each is a sound you get in English.

Are you saying that something like Lack-lun is ok for Lachlan but Latch-lun wouldn't be?

@Choccyscofffy , you don't seem to understand what rhyming means.

Be be honest, I'm pretty flexible provided you make an effort. My name is regularly mispronounced by other Irish people as the anglicised pronunciation is more common whereas I pronounce it according to the local Irish dialect. Generally, the only people who pronounce it correctly are native Irish speakers and I'm fine with that. I do, however, have a problem who correct my pronunciation. I tell them my name is X. They ask me to repeat it. I do. They then say "Oh, you mean Y". No, I don't. If I meant Y, I would have said Y. You'd be surprised at how often that happens, particularly on the phone.

Wrt Lachlan, I think if you listened to the pronunciation and the sounds were not part of your vocabulary, you would hear Locklun or Lacklun. You would not hear Latchlun. To continue to use Latchlun would be rude as it would show you weren't listening or trying to make an effort. A bit like the English woman saying to me she preferred her pronunciation so would continue to use it.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2025 11:24

Aliflowers · 07/01/2025 11:06

My issue wasn’t with your “English eyes comment” rather the “those Irish names”. It was completely derogatory. You may not have intended it that way but it’s how it read.

Well, it certainly wasn’t intended to be at all derogatory. I meant ‘those’ as in ‘that certain number of…’ - names which someone like me would have no idea how to pronounce without asking. E.g. the name of my Irish friend’s niece (Aine) who once joined us all on holiday. Having added her name to the booking, I had to ask.
But please feel free to continue to feel offended.

Hdjdb42 · 07/01/2025 11:24

IOE??! Haven't the foggiest how to pronounce it. Can see a lifetime of correcting people for this kid.

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:21

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:17

@OchonAgusOchonOh , However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.
Some names have sounds that don't exist in English. How bad is 'too badly'?

What would you do with a Welsh name like Pwyll or Lleucu? Both lovely names BTW but only one letter is of each is a sound you get in English.

Are you saying that something like Lack-lun is ok for Lachlan but Latch-lun wouldn't be?

@Choccyscofffy , you don't seem to understand what rhyming means.

Can you explain how ‘eye oh ee’ rhymes with Zoe?

Showy rhymes with Zoe, but not ‘eye oh ee’.

PuntoEBasta · 07/01/2025 11:21

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 10:56

That's how they're pronouncing it. I O E

I've been staring at 'Eieoie' for several minutes now, trying to find a phonetically plausible relationship between those letters and that pronunciation. It can't be done, even with diacritics. Poor child.

crockofshite · 07/01/2025 11:18

Aliflowers · 07/01/2025 11:06

My issue wasn’t with your “English eyes comment” rather the “those Irish names”. It was completely derogatory. You may not have intended it that way but it’s how it read.

you're coming across as a professional victim.

It's unrealistic to expect anyone to know how to pronounce a jumble of random letters - unless they are from the same country / region / village where the name originates.

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:17

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:15

Eye oh ee does not rhyme with Zoe. Just because the last bit rhymes doesn’t mean the name rhymes.

@OchonAgusOchonOh , However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.
Some names have sounds that don't exist in English. How bad is 'too badly'?

What would you do with a Welsh name like Pwyll or Lleucu? Both lovely names BTW but only one letter is of each is a sound you get in English.

Are you saying that something like Lack-lun is ok for Lachlan but Latch-lun wouldn't be?

@Choccyscofffy , you don't seem to understand what rhyming means.

YellowPixie · 07/01/2025 11:17

I'd pronounce it "my-parents-are-idiots-and-allergic-to-consonants".

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:16

PuntoEBasta · 07/01/2025 11:16

I don't know if you have spent much time in France or Italy but I can cheerfully confirm that the French and the Italians are just as bad as the British when it comes to the brutal mangling of names!

Yes, I know but we were discussing English speakers so I limited my comment to those.

OTannenbaumOTannenbaum · 07/01/2025 11:16

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 11:15

I O E

Ey-oh-we

Poor kid

PuntoEBasta · 07/01/2025 11:16

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:01

I have no problem with people having difficulty with how to pronounce a foreign name. However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.

When I worked in England, there was an English woman I worked with who badly mispronounced my name. I corrected her only to be told she preferred the way she said it so would continue to use that pronunciation. I was young at the time so just ignored her but my reaction would be very different these days.

And it's really no more difficult to figure out how to pronounce Irish names than any other foreign name if you make an effort. I think it's fairly safe to say that many, many French and Italian names that have not made it in to common usage in the English language are brutally mangled by English speakers. I would certainly include myself in that, which is why I always ask how to pronounce a name I'm unfamiliar with.

I don't know if you have spent much time in France or Italy but I can cheerfully confirm that the French and the Italians are just as bad as the British when it comes to the brutal mangling of names!

SushiWarrior · 07/01/2025 11:15

Not sure but it does immediately make me want to sing old McDonald….

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 11:15

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/01/2025 11:15

@eastereggg well come on, how is it pronounced then??

I O E

Ey-oh-we

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OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:15

JustMyView13 · 07/01/2025 11:10

I have such an ordinary ‘popular in England’ name, and people mispronounce it all the time when they’re reading it out.

It fascinates me seeing how people butcher it. I’m not gonna out myself, but there are a couple of household TV personalities with the same name. So just to say, I don’t think it’s exclusively just English people butchering names, I think it goes all ways.

I usually just laugh, and let them carry on.

I said English speakers, not English people.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/01/2025 11:15

@eastereggg well come on, how is it pronounced then??

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:15

Bumcake · 07/01/2025 11:12

How does it not?

Is it really a name though? Imagine having to spell that out and explain it daily.

Eye oh ee does not rhyme with Zoe. Just because the last bit rhymes doesn’t mean the name rhymes.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/01/2025 11:14

@eastereggg a bit like the poor child who was named abcde! prononced absidee!

Bumcake · 07/01/2025 11:12

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:00

Like how? Eye oh ee? How does that rhyme with Zoe?

Edited

How does it not?

Is it really a name though? Imagine having to spell that out and explain it daily.