To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action

Elon Musk has called Ed Davey (Lib Deb leader) a 'snivelling cretin' on X !

Who on earth would disagree with that?

No-one is saying it is wrong to comment on other countries. However, if you cannot see the difference between helping with the lawful electoral process and calling for the unlawful removal of a duly elected government, I think you need to back to school.

Do we really need endless threads on this? We get it you hate him.

You think masses of people think in this hateful way, you are not living in the real world. In the General Election 'the masses' did not vote for Reform and do you know why as the people who have power and money are never going to vote for a pro Brexit party!

I find this both fascinating and worrying. I'm all for free speech. I think it is really important and I believe people should be able to say what they like, as long as it isn't inciting hatred or illegal.

However, I think that Musk is trying to incite mischief at the very least here and indirectly hatred. The child abuse that happened throughout the UK is really dreadful and there have been multiple failings exposed at all levels. However, it is absurd to try and blame the current UK Prime Minister for all the failings at all levels during a time when he was not PM. He was head of the CPS from 2008-13 and during that time there were a number of changes made under his leadership to improve convictions for grooming cases. Was enough done? No and I don't think anyone has ever tried to say otherwise. However, like so many of these issues it is complex and extends across so many different parts of our society and structures that you can't just point the finger at one person and say that they are to blame.

Musk has a huge platform and for whatever reason, that I cannot fathom, his voice seems to carry weight with some people. He says things that are patently untrue or so absurdly spun that they are misdirecting and people believe him or think that what he is saying is true. I agree that it is up to individuals to make up their own mind but if you have a strong voice pumping out what is essentially propaganda unopposed, this is dangerous territory in my opinion.

No, it isn't automatically against their human rights. Action can only be taken on a case by case basis, if it can be shown that the convicted individual is in specific danger of a serious violation of human rights (i.e. in effect torture or death) if deported.

This is absolute nonsense. Starmer has a known track record of doing more to bring rapists to justice than any other DPP. We have had three inquiries whose recommendations were not put in place by the previous government despite having a very long time to do so. The Labour government is now rectifying that.

Also, foreign born rapists have taken the UK to court to avoid deportation using the EHRC. So it would be against their human rights to be made to leave.

You can't just take one side and nod along thinking everything is being taken care of. It really isn't.

Foreign-born rapists are automatically deported at end of sentence as are any convicts convicted of a violent crime or a non-violent crime with a sentence of 1 year or longer. This has been the case for many years and is not changing.

@SuzieNine thank you for that information.

They’re already calling him the First Lady which I don’t imagine he enjoys very much.

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This was a good response I feel

Being effective politicians and doing their jobs.

The space for the right is created by the vacuum caused by the lefts willful negligence.

People are asking for independent enquiries into the specific councils aren’t they? The public enquiry was not specifically about these areas, but a broader national enquiry encompassing all types of CSE. I agree everyone needs to get on with implementing the recommendations.

But, I think people are angry, and want those who failed the girls and turned a blind eye to be held accountable, which is different to the objectives of the national inquiry.

I personally don’t see what it will achieve, no one will be held accountable and the result will just be ‘Yes they fucked up, but lessons will be learned’.

Hi. Can you please explain what you mean?

Actually I am grateful for this information. Why a foreign born rapist should not be deported is extraordinary to me

That was my first thought but I'm in agreement with Mrs TerryPratchett - these rapists would be deported and free to rape our sisters in other countries? Would they even face trial there?

It doesn't sit right with me to just deport these men without knowing what happens to them - I don't give a fuck about the rapist but I do care if they're a danger to other women and girls in other countries.

We need a better justice system that properly protects us. I 100% support deportation but only if that process guarantees that they face criminal charges in their own country.

At some point, some people will start calling Elon "President Musk" and that will be that.

Delete X. Properly delete data kill account delete.

Don't repost his nonsense.

This is my form of protest. Don't be part of anything that puts money in his pocket. Don't give his horrific views any more attention. He craves the attention, even negative.

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and I very much doubt the advertisers will be rushing back any time spoon after all these outbursts. With any luck it will mark the beginning of the end of toxic sites such as twitter.

Agree with every word.

Let’s hope so. My friends and I have a bet as to how long it will be before there is a massive fall out. I think 3 months.

According to a reporter I heard yesterday on LBC, these outbursts, which are being directed at the UK and Germany, is a ploy to get more users on Twitter. Musk borrowed 40 billion to buy it. Advertisers are leaving in droves and it isn’t making the money to cover the borrowings.
Also one of the 20 recommendations of the inquiry into the grooming gangs was that social media owners should be made responsible for any CSA images in their platform. He doesn’t want that (although he could easily remove these images,) so he’s stalling by asking for ANOTHER inquiry.

Dint be fooled into thinking he’s bothered about CSA because he’s in one of the best positions in the world to do something about it but he’s chosen to do fuck all.

Perhaps he could mention as well the tainted blood scandal still not resolved with terrible injustice. This needs sorting out and Elon Musk could bring it to the forefront.

Yes, I think Musk is more combative, has a sense of humour and doesn’t shower people with praise. Trump is more sensitive to criticism and can’t laugh at himself. There’s a danger Musk could deeply offend Trump.

I don't think anyone even labour have an issue with outsiders commenting on UK politics. Have a read of Musks tweets and his offensive statements about individual mps. The only thing labour has said on the matter is in relation to their concern for individual mps safety. They have not complained that Musk has an opinion. You need to actually read and listen to what they are saying. Most of the criticism about Musk interference has been from other commenters and the media, not labour.