Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action

610 replies

Bogginsthe3rd · 07/01/2025 02:02

Musk has just posted this on twitter (among other unhinged tweets). To me this reads as a thinly veiled threat to democratically elected UK MPs and actually the UK government should consider sanctions to the US if he continues this attack when he enters the White House?

To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action
OP posts:
Thread gallery
16
madgesb · 07/01/2025 09:25

FirstOfTheFirst · 07/01/2025 09:08

The fact is that that is my opinion of Musk and history.

Edited

That's better.

AlisonDonut · 07/01/2025 09:24

madgesb · 07/01/2025 08:56

Shut it down shut it down shut it down

Show quote history

Shut what down?

This is the issue, that people only want freedom to speak what they want said.

If you don't want a Tesla, don't buy one. If you are seeing racists on X then stop following racists. Honestly, this is in your hands, but you do not get to tell other people what they can and cannot do.

timenowplease · 07/01/2025 09:24

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2025 09:19

No there wasn't, there were a few and posts deleted... trying posting you want someone murdered on here?

But in any case, these weren't Labour officials and or MPs Govt Ministers.

Labour and Tory activists have always campaigned in the US elections, as have US citizens, such as Republicans Abroad, here in the UK.

Show quote history

There were hundreds of posts implying just that.

Stop your nonsense. You don't have the moral high ground here.

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2025 09:21

SuzieNine · 07/01/2025 09:17

They have lost all their appeals and are both under a deportation order. They have also both been stripped of their British citizenship. However, Pakistan are refusing to accept them. This is a perennial problem with deportations - a lot of countries simply don't want their criminals back.

Show quote history

Too many facts there i'm afraid... another one is between 2010 and 2019, over 50k ex prisoners deported from the UK but for obvious reasons it dropped off during covid.

A fallacy no one is deported.

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2025 09:19

timenowplease · 07/01/2025 09:14

Did Labour activists call for the murder of US politicians.

There was plenty of that on here quite recently after the failed assassination attempt on Trump. Hundreds and hundreds of posts.

Show quote history

No there wasn't, there were a few and posts deleted... trying posting you want someone murdered on here?

But in any case, these weren't Labour officials and or MPs Govt Ministers.

Labour and Tory activists have always campaigned in the US elections, as have US citizens, such as Republicans Abroad, here in the UK.

FirstOfTheFirst · 07/01/2025 09:18

To be fair, if social media posts are the benchmark then you'd have to also look at how many Twitter posts called for MP violence.

MN is going to look very tame by comparison.

MargoLivebetter · 07/01/2025 09:17

@GoldThumb and @Puzzledandpissedoff I don't have any problem with anyone from anywhere stating their opinion. I do have a problem with propaganda and opinions being broadcasted as facts. There is surely a difference between like minded politicians supporting a democratic process and the widespread peddling of misinformation?

SuzieNine · 07/01/2025 09:17

kirbykirby · 07/01/2025 09:01

Not true.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/05/16/rochdale-grooming-gang-ringleaders-may-never-be-deported-18789945/

Show quote history

They have lost all their appeals and are both under a deportation order. They have also both been stripped of their British citizenship. However, Pakistan are refusing to accept them. This is a perennial problem with deportations - a lot of countries simply don't want their criminals back.

timenowplease · 07/01/2025 09:14

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2025 07:47

Did Labour activists call for the murder of US politicians....? must have missed that bit...

Plus it was Labour activists in their own time, it wasn't official.

Not that facts matter to some people.

Edited
Show quote history

Did Labour activists call for the murder of US politicians.

There was plenty of that on here quite recently after the failed assassination attempt on Trump. Hundreds and hundreds of posts.

user1471516498 · 07/01/2025 09:12

Phthia · 07/01/2025 08:43

This is absolute nonsense. Starmer has a known track record of doing more to bring rapists to justice than any other DPP. We have had three inquiries whose recommendations were not put in place by the previous government despite having a very long time to do so. The Labour government is now rectifying that.

Show quote history

Depressingly, at this stage it doesn't matter whether it is true or not. If Musk says it loud enough it will become "true" , because who is going to bother looking up pesky facts.
And poor embattled Musk is free to say whatever he wants because "free speech", it doesn't matter if it is true.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/01/2025 09:12

GoldThumb · 07/01/2025 07:41

Labour really can’t complain about foreigners stating their opinions when they went over to the States to campaign for Kamala.

Their authoritarian ’rules for thee, but not for me’ mindset.

The hypocrisy is staggering.

As is the hypocrisy from all the posters on here, after the thousands of threads we’ve had here commenting on Trump

Very well said, GoldThumb

If you combine America, a Trump acolyte and a culture which some can't bear to see criticised it all makes for a perfect storm for the kind of virtue signallers who are only too happy to see meddling when it suits

Besides, "they all need removing" is an opinion, but what's wrong with publicising the names of those who opposed deportation of rapists, beyond the issue that some would rather he hadn't done it?

SuzieNine · 07/01/2025 09:08

Mmasters · 07/01/2025 09:00

Why vote against deporting rapists unless you need their vote

No-one has voted against deporting rapists.

FirstOfTheFirst · 07/01/2025 09:08

The fact is that that is my opinion of Musk and history.

madgesb · 07/01/2025 09:05

FirstOfTheFirst · 07/01/2025 07:43

There is absolutely no way on earth multi billionaire Musk is a bastion of morality. So he's not doing this out of a sense of decency. There's something else at play and as it has been power at the root of plays like this since the dawn of time, it'll be power this time. He's just a different model of power hungry.

Go off the facts instead of making stuff up please.

madgesb · 07/01/2025 09:03

CatsndtheBear · 07/01/2025 07:15

This.

The issue is that people just heard about "grooming gangs" and say to each other "oh that's terrible isn't it".

They act like these gangs are the equivalent of a seedy Uncle or the pervy gym teacher, just on a large scale.

Not enough people have spent the time to read the details about what those girls actually suffered. These are torture and rape gangs.

There HAS been a cover up. This WAS allowed to continue despite a few brave souls trying to speak out. We DO have an issue with our government and police not knowing how to deal with crimes done by certain ethnic groups and religions.

Something needs to change and instead of being so worried about Musk, as women we should be demanding answers of our government and demanding action is taken.
What was done to those girls was the equivalent of murder in my opinion. The life they could and should have had was ended and that kind of trauma will change them forever.

Show quote history

It affects everything. Not only your life but family, friends and some of it you only process years later and then get affected in new ways.

Mmasters · 07/01/2025 09:01

Noone

Blarn · 07/01/2025 09:01

And we shouldn't forget all his mad rants about the cave rescuer involved in saving the lives of those children in Thailand. Elon accused him of being a peadophile when he declined to use his made up submarine. Everyone has known for years that he is just a bell end.

kirbykirby · 07/01/2025 09:01

SuzieNine · 07/01/2025 07:59

Can you point to the bill and debate where this actually happened? Or do you just believe every word he says?

Foreign-born rapists are automatically deported at end of sentence as are any convicts convicted of a violent crime or a non-violent crime with a sentence of 1 year or longer. This has been the case for many years and is not changing.

Show quote history

Not true.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/05/16/rochdale-grooming-gang-ringleaders-may-never-be-deported-18789945/

Mmasters · 07/01/2025 09:00

Why vote against deporting rapists unless you need their vote

madgesb · 07/01/2025 09:00

Maray1967 · 07/01/2025 06:53

We’ve had the investigations - we now need to get on with action. Attention needs to be on police in particular - how they respond and what action they take. And for Conservatives to try to turn this into a party political point is truly disgusting. Would they like to discuss exactly what their administrations have done over the last 14 years? Keir Starmer and Jess Phillips are not at the top of my list of ineffective politicians on the safety of women and girls.

And no, we’re not going to sanction the US - but I would hope that quiet words will be had by diplomats as the Trump administration takes office. I also think it probably won’t be long before Trump decides he’s had enough of another big ego in the White House.

Why only the police?

amoreoamicizia · 07/01/2025 09:00

What's the significance of Ed Davey being highlighted? I must have missed something.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 07/01/2025 08:57

I agree with the German chancellor - don’t feed the troll.

amoreoamicizia · 07/01/2025 08:57

That should be "MPs", not "MP's".

madgesb · 07/01/2025 08:56

hobbledyhoy · 07/01/2025 05:46

This must be the eighth thread devoted to Musk in the last two days, I've been on Mumsnet for years and he's barely garnered a mention despite being a colossal fucking walloper from the beginning.

I think we need to cut off the oxygen to these idiots, the attention is what they crave and he's quite clearly unhinged.

People also need to hit him where it hurts - stop buying bloody Tesla's

Shut it down shut it down shut it down

Blarn · 07/01/2025 08:56

I think the Government should just ignore him, he loves attention. They have issued their statements and whenever asked about anything else should just sigh and say, "yes, he's being a bit silly isn't he". Then move on to something else.